Don't mind Kbm Premier... the guys just pissy cause the Illini lost.

I've considered blocking the dude, but Rock said that I should be more open minded, so I'm trying that. And its not that I mind arguing with the guy, its just that he could post a thousand posts and in the end you'd end up with exactly the same thing you came with.
You must be trying real hard for a job with Faux News. I'm not an Illini fan. But it's refreshing to see you stretching your mind a bit.
Take for instance his post to Pepper:
"You persist in assuming that the two are mutually exclusive."
Pepper wasnt saying that at all in the post. He was saying that Mino wouldnt find the person credible because he wasnt gay and was a Christian. Exclusion had nothing to do with it.
I think Pepper could type that for himself.
"That's right - it makes perfect sense to encourage only like-minded individuals to air any thoughts in a forum. And why shouldn't he defend something he believes is an innate part of his being? Do you expect his instincts to be somehow beneath yours because of your religious lifestyle choice?"
Which he would be partly right about. When someone comes into a thread concerning your religious beliefs and attacks it, then you have all rights to get a bit disturbed. People might make the mistake of thinking this thread is about homosexuality being under fire, but its not. Its about specific individuals attacking a famous Christian figure because they dont like him. Sort of the same as going to his funeral and spitting on him, but doing it in hiding so the people at the funeral cant whoop your ass.
Kbm would like you to fully believe that since you dont and shouldnt have the right to feel pissed that Mino came in here and went after the Pope. He'd pretty much like to control you lives through trying to make you feel guilty, so he can enforce him beliefs on you. He's pretty good at it too.
I can't express situations that Minotaur has experienced, but I do know people whose partners were denied access to funerals and one whose body was exhumed and moved from his own chosen grave because some distant cousin had "family" rights that the life partner couldn't access. . .is that close enough to knocking someone's life or spitting on him? If he has witnessed any event like that, and the excuse of someone else's religious beliefs was provided for the reason for that treatment, is he supposed to be bigger than the perpetrators in turning the other cheek? Or remain quiet with the knowledge that this might happen every day in his world, and none of the rest of us bother to notice?
"That is a favorite "conservative" talking point which holds very little water. If he wasn't tolerant, he would be advocating the outlawing of your religious beliefs as nothing more than a sinful "lifestyle choice." And he'd have more evidence to suggest your ability to make a different religious choice than you'd have promoting some miracle cure for his relationship orientation."
See, he is using key words here to try and group you together and dismiss what you are saying at the same time without dealing with it. First stereotyping you, then slickly misguiding you with his wordage. See, Kbm isnt tolerant... he doesnt want you to be able to believe what you do. He wants you to believe what he does, because thats what he thinks is right. He believes his priorities concerning equality and belief should be your priorities, and if you dont have room for it, then in his book you must be some kind of knuckle dragging moron, because he is the most intelligent and knowing man alive.
My...what a tangled web we weave. . .you sure go to an awful lot of effort to project what other people mean in order to not get them to believe what you do.
As to his last line, that could be taken several ways so I'm just going to leave it at that.
So what it comes down to, is that nobody is posting saying "I hate fags man!" Kbm wants you to believe thats what you're saying though, so he can properly condemn you and try to shovel mud on your opinion. What really happened in this thread was people were coming to pay respect to someone that they respected, and certain individuals came in and were not respectful. That would be like me coming in when Kbm posts a thread that his father died and saying "Who cares, that guy was so and so". Its just not called for. Thats the root of these problems, and the angst in this thread.
Wow. . .and you got so sucked into the evil "liberal" political agenda that you just couldn't resist yourself from interpreting the Eggs bible for all mankind here.
If Kbm wants to admit that, we werent the ones that came into the thread and tried to enforce out religious views on anybody, that was done by others.
It's a discussion thread. But I think I need to post a correction for Pepper. I didn't say I agreed that certain criticisms of the Pope were necessarily appropriate right now. I gave the man his props.
Regardless Premier, just do what I'm doing now and ignore the guy. It'll definitely free up some time, and theres absolutely nothing to lose by cutting off conversation with him.