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Pre Workout Drink???

If you want stim free, I would recommend premax, if you can afford it, otherwise some bulk gplc and l tyrosine would be a good combo. Jack3d worked ok for me, but I noticed a huge crash and only lasted about an hour before I started to fade, but it is cost effective. I love shock therapy as well, probably one of the best I have tried in my years training.
 
Code Red, hemo rage
 
N2KTS is all I take and have been taking for a long time. Have yet to adapt to the dose, still only need one small scoop.
 
test suspension and LHJO :coffee:
 
alan84 said:
I heard jack3d is nothing but caffeine.
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Jack3d actually doen't contain any caffeine. The stimulant in Jack3d is 1,3 Dimethylamyline. Creatine for strength, Beta Alanine for muscle endurance and Arginine AKG for "pump."

I like Jack3d and Anadraulic State GT from personal use, though N2KTS and Mesomorph have been getting applause by its users.
 
I use the following pre-workout supplementation.

Gaspari Plasma-Jet (pill form) 1-2 hours before working out. Gaspari Super Pump (2 scoops), mixed with one scoop of MuscleTech NOP-47 pre-workout protein 30-40 minutes before workout.

The above combination has worked very good for me. I feel real energetic during my workouts and my endurance has definately increased.

Please keep in mind that everyone is different and various combinations work for certain people, but not all. If you experiment enough, I am sure you will figure it out.
 
pwloiacano said:
Please keep in mind that everyone is different and various combinations work for certain people, but not all. If you experiment enough, I am sure you will figure it out.
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Nice, very bottom line answer and an accurate reality that pertains to many various supplements in general.
 
pwloiacano said:
I use the following pre-workout supplementation.

Gaspari Plasma-Jet (pill form) 1-2 hours before working out. Gaspari Super Pump (2 scoops), mixed with one scoop of MuscleTech NOP-47 pre-workout protein 30-40 minutes before workout.

The above combination has worked very good for me. I feel real energetic during my workouts and my endurance has definately increased.

Please keep in mind that everyone is different and various combinations work for certain people, but not all. If you experiment enough, I am sure you will figure it out.
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mwahaha! You'd bet the same effect with caffine sucker! :clapping:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Jack3d actually doen't contain any caffeine. The stimulant in Jack3d is 1,3 Dimethylamyline. Creatine for strength, Beta Alanine for muscle endurance and Arginine AKG for "pump."

I like Jack3d and Anadraulic State GT from personal use, though N2KTS and Mesomorph have been getting applause by its users.
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Jack3d indeed does contain caffine, as well as 1,3 Dimethylamyline :coffee:
 
Here are three that I use and like: Jack3d, AS-GT and Maximize V2. Waiting on my NTKTS that I hear will give Jack3d a run for its money, can't wait to see!
 
theCaptn' said:
Jack3d indeed does contain caffine, as well as 1,3 Dimethylamyline :coffee:
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Agreed, I looked up the ingredients, caffeine is listed, however it is a proprietary blend so who knows how much is actually in there.
 
HATEFULone said:
Agreed, I looked up the ingredients, caffeine is listed, however it is a proprietary blend so who knows how much is actually in there.
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I know how much ;)
 
theCaptn' said:
Jack3d indeed does contain caffine, as well as 1,3 Dimethylamyline :coffee:
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I know, I realized that when I looked into it again, but either I couldn't see the edit button or what, I tried to go back and fix it.... but you're right. According to USPLabs it's "less then 150mg" of caffeine, as they are discrete with detailed ingredient info and understandably so.
 
We only use 90mg in our blend. I dont care for too much caffeine, especially at night when there are individuals who train a few hours before bed. Kind of sucks when you're that wired. The average 2 cups of coffee, a great pre-workout stim, usually contains 200mg.
 
I recommend jack3d. Has really good flavoring. But I've also tried AS-GT which works pretty good too.
 
Ewww Anadraulic State is my least favorite. It's nasty and gritty. I liked super pump 250. I want to try jack3d but I don't want any creatine on cycle so I'm going to try a tub of white flood during and then switch to jack3d on pct.
 
SloppyJ said:
Ewww Anadraulic State is my least favorite. It's nasty and gritty. I liked super pump 250. I want to try jack3d but I don't want any creatine on cycle so I'm going to try a tub of white flood during and then switch to jack3d on pct.
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not a bad choice and White Flood has those cool nootropics that I wished more pre-workouts included.
 
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