Pure strength!!!

[ManInBlack]

Ok I am not going to list stats and all that again just because this is more of a general question. I am not asking for a cycle to be layed out...I AM asking what compounds you guys would suggest running together for a cycle that would make someone as strong as humanly possible.

I am trimming up the fat right now and lifts are going down and its definitely discouraging..i know youve all been there. so as soon as i get to where I wanna be im ready to VERY CLEANLY bulk up again but I want to be STRONG.

Preciate it.

 

[_LG_]

Trenbolone

 

[acemon]

Anadrol does a great job at strength.

 

[ManInBlack]

Man im a scuuuurrrrrred of Tren

 

[Pittsburgh63]

Prop, tren ace and some halo. You'll be an animal.

 

[biggerben69]

Prop, tren ace and some halo. You'll be an animal.

What Pitt said plus TNE 1cc/eod.

 

[Caretaker]

Prop, Halo and Anadrol.
You wanna REALLY push it, add Dbol and/or M1t.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

What Pitt said plus TNE 1cc/eod.

very nice addition.. TNE 1 hour pre workout with the halo. Your gym won't have enough plates.

 

[ManInBlack]

mmmm, man all that sounds nice... i wanna be an animal for sure.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

M1t, halo, trenbolone, SD, tne, and nandrolone will make a freakshow of ya. I planning a lean cycle with low dose test, tren m1t up front and halo out back.

 

[SloppyJ]

Tren and Halo or Dbol for me.

I get crazy immeadiate strength from Dbol the tren takes a few weeks the buildup is slow and steady.

 

[ManInBlack]

hmmmm...ok so I am thinking test/tren/dbol for the the next one...tren a or e

 

[Pittsburgh63]

hmmmm...ok so I am thinking test/tren/dbol for the the next one...tren a or e

If you've never run tren.. I would definitely stick to ace for your first time. Just in case the sides are too much.

 

[ManInBlack]

Ok so now I am turning this thread a new direction....

Like I said, leaning out right now so it will be a bit before i jump on

5'11
25 years old
2 previous cycles (test e 12 wks, and test P for 10 wks)
looking to get to about 190 at around 9-10% body fat before starting so we'll go with that
goal of the cycle: i plan on eating about 300 calories above maintenance. I want this to be a SUPER LEAN and clean bulk. I never wanna be over 15% body fat again. I want to get strong as fucking hell and add SOLID weight.

I am not sure how much test to run when running tren so maybe you guys could help me out with that. I think a 12 week cycle sounds good........or maybe a 20, lol. Just kidding although Sloppy you did a 20 wk one didnt you? I may be mistaken.

 

[biggerben69]

M1t, halo, trenbolone, SD, tne, and nandrolone will make a freakshow of ya. I planning a lean cycle with low dose test, tren m1t up front and halo out back.

Deca seems to be forgotten these day. It should be part of any bulking cycle. Heals joints like no other. A bro put it like this the other day, "I feel like I take up more space on Deca" Running it for 16-20 weeks.

 

[PSYCHOPATH.]

Bloat = Strength ....

Test, Dbol, A-bombs, Deca/npp, and Tren....

 

[USMC]

Dbol front loaded on a Tren Test cycle, tren2x over test. Run the tren as high as you can handle the sides, everyone is different. Bonus if you can find legit Tren hex.

 

[ManInBlack]

Dbol front loaded on a Tren Test cycle, tren2x over test. Run the tren as high as you can handle the sides, everyone is different. Bonus if you can find legit Tren hex.

this sounds really good. so you say run the tren twice as high as the test? so something like this?

Wks 1-4: D Bol 30-50mg ED
Wks 1-6: Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 7-12: Test C 750mg/wk
and then I would run the tren the whole 12 weeks as well?

 

[justhav2p]

this sounds really good. so you say run the tren twice as high as the test? so something like this?

Wks 1-4: D Bol 30-50mg ED
Wks 1-6: Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 7-12: Test C 750mg/wk
and then I would run the tren the whole 12 weeks as well?

I would do Deca for 12 weeks with proposed cycle instead of tren..... That's all you need especially if you havent run it.

 

[USMC]

this sounds really good. so you say run the tren twice as high as the test? so something like this?

Wks 1-4: D Bol 30-50mg ED
Wks 1-6: Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 7-12: Test C 750mg/wk
and then I would run the tren the whole 12 weeks as well?

Old school was running test twice as high as tren, newer ideas are the reverse. I'm currently running it with great results, as have many many others before. But lower those test numbers.

Currently I'm on:
test P- 350mg weekly
Mast- 350mg weekly
Tren a-350mg weekly
Tren E- 300 mg weekly

At week 8 I'm upping to 525mg of the testp, mast and tren a through week 12. But just entered a cutter contest so might extend another month at those levels. For a beginner at Tren I wouldn't suggest it though. 250mg of test and 500mg of tren would be a nice start, front load with dbol the first 6 weeks, see how you handle the sides and go from there. tren A of course so you can discontinue if needed.

 

[Digitalash]

test E/ tren E (longer cycle and slower gains, less risk of injury) Start the tren on the low side like 100mg twice a week and ramp up if you feel ok. If you don't like the idea of E then run the tren ace at a moderate dose again if you're 1 rep maxing and training hard for strength injury potential is high.

kickstart with 20mg ED superdrol and finish with 3 weeks of halo 30mg ED

I loved superdrol and got no sides really when run with test, made me strong and hard though and I definitely felt a recomp effect. It's known for strength gains though and a very strong compound. No water retention also so you'll look nice on it (unlike dbol or drol). Plus you can grab a cycle's worth for under thirty bucks so it's a no brainer lol. Never tried halo but that seems an obvious choice.

I would also consider running igf-1 lr3 at 30-50mcg ED, the price isn't that high but it's much more cost effective than hgh for growth and has awesome nutrient partitioning effects. You also only need to dose once a day rather than 2-3 with most peptides, it should be stronger even than the cjc 1295/ghrp combo. Should help you keep lean and put on muscle, plus igf-1 is great for repairing cartilage and collagenous tissues so it should help you avoid getting hurt.


I may be being overly cautious though I've never really trained for powerlifting, but even when I've tried like a 5x5 program as a natty I had some joint pains. I think that would be a big concern for me if I were planning a strength cycle personally. Mine would probably look something like this

Weeks 1-4
10mg superdrol twice a day

weeks 1-12
750mg test E (ramp up to 1g at week 8 if you like)

weeks 1-10
tren E 200-300mg a week (adjust as you see fit)

weeks 10-12
halo 20mg preworkout, 10mg at night

weeks 1 continuing through pct
igf-1 lr3 50mcg preworkout (throw in some TNE here if you like )
I'd run hcg starting at week 4 until week before pct, plus obviously whatever AI you like on cycle. Clomid (or nolva) plus aromasin for pct blah blah you get the idea. If you eat alot and train heavy this should make you pretty damn strong. I know you didn't ask for a cycle layout but I love daydreaming about cycles so deal with it

 

[tinyshrek]

Run test e or c. Tne or suspension preworkout. Tren ED with drol and dbol. And snort some Halo right before you hit the gym real rush! JK lol

 

[ManInBlack]

I would do Deca for 12 weeks with proposed cycle instead of tren..... That's all you need especially if you havent run it.

I must admit, I like the idea of running deca more than the idea of running tren...I already have anxiety and I know tren is notorious for that

 

[ManInBlack]

THanks for the reply DIGI

 

[Digitalash]

No problem, I forgot to add to use caber just in case any noobs read that lol.

If you really don't want to try tren then how about 750mg test/900mg EQ with superdrol up front and halo in the back. EQ should keep your joints healthy and it'll be a nice long cycle to give your body time to adapt to the new weights. TNE preworkout whenever you feel like it, should be a nice low stress cycle except maybe the halo part and a good lean bulk/strength cycle

 

[biggerben69]

I must admit, I like the idea of running deca more than the idea of running tren...I already have anxiety and I know tren is notorious for that

Don't be afraid of tren bro. It will change your life. I'm talking for the better. Respect it but then run the shit out of it. Body composition changes rivaled only by gh(which takes much longer to see the changes) and DNP. If sides are tough you will work them out. It is worth it. I know one guy thats in a show this weekend that was up to 300mg/tren a ed. Sides were the same as at 100mg day.

 

[ManInBlack]

Old school was running test twice as high as tren, newer ideas are the reverse. I'm currently running it with great results, as have many many others before. But lower those test numbers.

Currently I'm on:
test P- 350mg weekly
Mast- 350mg weekly
Tren a-350mg weekly
Tren E- 300 mg weekly

At week 8 I'm upping to 525mg of the testp, mast and tren a through week 12. But just entered a cutter contest so might extend another month at those levels. For a beginner at Tren I wouldn't suggest it though. 250mg of test and 500mg of tren would be a nice start, front load with dbol the first 6 weeks, see how you handle the sides and go from there. tren A of course so you can discontinue if needed.

Wks 1-6: Dbol 30-50mg ED
Wks 1-6: Test C 250mg/wk
Wks 7-12: Test C 250-500mg/wk
Wks 1-12: Tren A 500mg/wk

How's that look USMC?

 

[ManInBlack]

No problem, I forgot to add to use caber just in case any noobs read that lol.

If you really don't want to try tren then how about 750mg test/900mg EQ with superdrol up front and halo in the back. EQ should keep your joints healthy and it'll be a nice long cycle to give your body time to adapt to the new weights. TNE preworkout whenever you feel like it, should be a nice low stress cycle except maybe the halo part and a good lean bulk/strength cycle

Man thanks for the help..All the different things you guys are suggesting ALL sound good so I am not real sure which way to go. I am just glad I have some time to think about it.

 

[ManInBlack]

Don't be afraid of tren bro. It will change your life. I'm talking for the better. Respect it but then run the shit out of it. Body composition changes rivaled only by gh(which takes much longer to see the changes) and DNP. If sides are tough you will work them out. It is worth it. I know one guy thats in a show this weekend that was up to 300mg/tren a ed. Sides were the same as at 100mg day.

Yeah man I have heard that about Tren, how it just takes you to a whole new level which is why I am definitely considering it.

 

[SloppyJ]

Hey brother if it's your first time I highly suggest you use ace and find your sweet spot. Start at 50mg ED and go from there. What worked good for me was pinning Prop or Enan on a MWF schedule and throwing the tren in when I did those. On the other days use a slin pin and hit your delts with the tren. Made it super easy. Unless you just want to use prop. Another good idea is to use at least 2 different sites like quads and glutes and pin ED.

Something like this would be good IMO:

1-12 Prop 400-600mg/wk
1-8 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED

Don't forget to use HCG and caber along with your AI and everything else you use.