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Q & A with John Connor Expert AAS advisor
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Hi John, SFW here. Do you believe i'll be ok during my SD kicker? I was born with jaundice and was possibly exposed to hepatitis as a kid. Doc said i have scar tissue when i was 17. Ive abused alcohol since 12 and im also using high doses of letrozole now. Ive been on non stop injectables since 08-09. Should i just go ahead and uncheck the donor box on my license?
T3 will interfere with your final carb load so you need to stop the T3 administration a few days BEFORE the start of the load. In your case I would drop the T3 on Sunday a few days before starting the load.
You may resume the T3 after the show at a reduced dosage and ween off. For example if your T3 dose is 50mcg's daily you will stop the T3 on Sunday before the show and then resume it after the show on Sunday at 25mcg's daily for a week to 10 days then jump off if you want.
You have several options brother. Most AI's like Letro, Arimidex and Aromasin have very similar E2 suppression however the main difference is half life so dialing in the proper dosing schedule is important. I really like Aromasin however the half life is quite short in males (8.9 hours). If you have gyno symptoms or are gyno prone you will need to dose the Aromasin at least every 12 hours.
Letro and Arimidex have longer half lives in males so dosing does not have to be as frequent.
Nolvadex will occupy the receptor sites and will prevent and even reverse new gyno. I like to keep Nolvadex on hand for emergency gyno treatment because it's so effective. I would administer your Aromasin at 25mg every 12 hours to reduce E2 and stop the gyno symptoms. If that is not effective enough then 20-40mg of Nolvadex daily would be my recommendation.
Here is an article I wrote on Aromasin last year for more technical data. Good luck brother.
Aromasin
(Exemestane)
Aromasin is a steroidal aromatase inactivator used to lower circulating estrogen. It was developed to help fight breast cancer as estrogen plays a role in the growth of cancer cells. Aromasin binds irreversibly to the aromatase enzyme. This suppresses the conversion of androgens into estrogen. Circulating estrogen can be reduced by nearly 85% in women using Aromasin. A common misconception is that aromatase inhibition is similar in men than women. However in trials when males were administered 25mg of Aromasin daily, maximal estradiol suppression of 62 ± 14% was observed at 12 hours. The reason for the difference may be related to the the much higher testosterone concentrations in young males than in postmenopausal women and the shorter half-life of exemestane in males. The terminal half-life in males (8.9 h) was considerably shorter than the published value of 27 h in females. This may be a basis for more frequent administration in men (or women administering testosterone) that want maximal E2 supression.
Aromasin acts as a false substrate for the aromatase enzyme, and is processed to an intermediate that binds irreversibly to the active site of the enzyme causing its inactivation, an effect also known as "suicide inhibition." In other words, Exemestane, by being structurally similar to the target of the enzymes, permanently binds to those enzymes, thereby preventing them from ever completing their task of converting androgens into estrogens. When we compare this mode of action against other AI???s the benefit becomes clear. Arimidex can unbind from the aromatase enzyme when you stop taking it but Aromasin will not. Therefore, there is less chance of estrogen rebound with Aromasin.
Aromasin can be employed during a steroid cycle when aromatizing compounds such as testosterone are administered in order to control estrogen from getting out of control. During the course of a typical steroid cycle estrogen can rise quite high. Estrogen has been measured as much as 7 times higher than normal in men on steroids. This is excessive and can potentially cause water retention, gynecomastia (the formation of female breast tissue), negatively effect libido or cause benign prostatic hyperplasia. Therefore in order to avoid these side effects estrogen must be controlled.
Aromasin not only lowers circulating estrogen and sex hormone binding globulin but it also increases free testosterone by a whopping 117%! Total testosterone increases about 60%. Check out the performance of Aromasin after just 10 days of treatment in males.
FIG. 1. Estrogen and androgen plasma levels after 10 d of daily exemestane (25 or 50 mg) in healthy young males (mean ± SD; n = 9???11). To convert to Systeme International units: estradiol, picomoles per liter (x3.671); estrone, picomoles per liter (x3.699); androstenedione, nanomoles per liter (*0.003492); and testosterone, nanomoles per liter (x0.03467).
Aromasin may be used during a steroid cycle with aromatizing compounds and during PCT to help keep the estrogen to testosterone balance in favor of testosterone. Out of all the medications to control estrogen, Aromasin seems to be the most well balanced. It raises testosterone similar to Arimidex and lowers estradiol about 10% better than arimidex in men and is likely to cause less estrogen rebound than Arimidex. Keep in mind that 50mg of Aromasin daily kept estradiol in the normal range for men so if you think using an aromatase inhibitor will crush estrogen too much this science supports the opposite. Additionally, plasma lipids and IGF-I concentrations in men were unaffected by Aromasin treatment. From the data I have read and my years of experience with this medication, 25mg of Aromasin every other day is a good starting point on moderate doses of testosterone. If testosterone doses are raised then 25mg daily may be needed to control estrogen. Since either high and low estrogen can cause side effects such as low libido only labs can determine the appropriate dose of Aromasin.
Reference
Pharmacokinetics and Dose Finding of a Potent Aromatase Inhibitor, Aromasin (Exemestane), in Young Males
Acne can be a real bummer on cycle and post cycle. I would shower twice daily, use tanning beds, swim in chlorinated pools or hot tubs, wear only clean clothes and sleep on clean sheets and pillow cases as well as use acne wash products twice daily. You may consider keeping your hormones more stable and use aromatase inhibitors to control E2.
If this is not enough to reduce acne then I would use low dose Accutane. 20mg daily for 4-6 months. You MUST get labs on Accutane to determine liver and lipid stress. Accutane is a very powerful drug so you need to read about it before using it. Higher doses will cause uncomfortable side effects so do not increase dose.
Acuttane description
Accutane Isotretinoin (eye-soe-TRET-i-noyn) is used to treat severe, disfiguring nodular acne. It should be used only after other acne medicines have been tried and have failed to help the acne.
Isotretinoin may also be used to treat other skin diseases as determined by your doctor.
Isotretinoin must not be used to treat women who are able to bear children unless other forms of treatment have been tried first and have failed. Isotretinoin must not be taken during pregnancy because it causes birth defects in humans. If you are able to bear children, it is very important that you read, understand, and follow the pregnancy warnings for isotretinoin .
This medicine is available only with your doctor???s prescription and should be prescribed only by a doctor who has special knowledge of the diagnosis and treatment of severe, uncontrollable cystic acne.
Accutane Isotretinoin is a prescription medication more commonly known by its brand name of Accutane. Isotretinoin is a synthetic retinoid, derived from Vitamin A, that inhibits sebaceous gland secretion and is used most commonly in the treatment of severe forms of acne. It is known to be teratogenic, in other words a drug that can???t be given to women that are pregnant or not properly following a contraceptive program.
Isotretinoin is the chemical name of active ingredient in Accutane. Accutane is a registered trademark of Hoffman-La Roche Inc. in the United States and/or other countries.
Low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne vulgaris.
Amichai B, Shemer A, Grunwald MH.
Huzot Clinic of Clalit Health Services, Ashkelon, Israel.
BACKGROUND: The efficacy of isotretinoin at 0.5 to 1.0 mg/kg per day in the treatment of acne is well established and considered safe, although it is sometimes not easily tolerated because of its cutaneous side effects. OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to determine the efficacy of low-dose isotretinoin in the treatment of acne. METHODS: In this prospective, noncomparative, open-label study, 638 patients, both male and female, with moderate acne were enrolled and treated with isotretinoin at 20 mg/d (approximately 0.3-0.4 mg/kg per day) for 6 months. The patients were divided into two age groups: 12 to 20 and 21 to 35 years old. Patients were evaluated at 2-month intervals by means of clinical and laboratory examinations. A 4-year follow-up was also carried out. RESULTS: At the end of the treatment phase, good results were observed in 94.8% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years, and in 92.6% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Failure of the treatment occurred in 5.2% and 7.4% of the two groups, respectively. Twenty-one patients dropped out of the study because of lack of compliance, and another patient discontinued participation because of a laboratory side effect. During the 4-year follow-up period, relapses of the acne occurred in 3.9% of the patients aged 12 to 20 years and in 5.9% of the patients aged 21 to 35 years. Elevated serum lipid levels (up to 20% higher than the upper limit of normal value) were found in 4.2% of the patients and abnormal (<twice the upper limit of normal values) liver tests were observed in 4.8%. LIMITATIONS: This was a noncomparative, open-label study. CONCLUSION: Six months of treatment with low-dose isotretinoin (20 mg/d) was found to be effective in the treatment of moderate acne, with a low incidence of severe side effects and at a lower cost than higher doses.
PMID: 16546586 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
More than 20 cycles.
Keep in mind you can raise HGH and IGF-1 levels with steroids, diet and exercise. However, this effect will be greater with HGH or IGF-1 injections.
Amino acids are ideal post training and late at night. I like 5mg of amino acids immediately post training with Creatine, Glutamine and Gatorade. In the middle of the night when you wake up to urinate another 5 grams is good. I would get the rest of my amino's from diet and shakes during the day.
This section right here is what sets IML above any other. I will definitely take advantage of this. Thanks for doing this Heavy...
Thanks brother!
I've been trying to decide what I'm going to cycle when going into the spring. I can't decide, so I'm looking for some help.
I'm always on a recomp, but my cardio motivation is better than it has been in 15 years so I may actually get cut for a change. Re-comping and libido are my main goals. I had lost my libido, recovery, strength etc and felt like shit almost three years ago, so I turned to gear.
I'm currently about 3 weeks out of PCT. I probably need to start TRT, but my doc doesn't want to listen. I'm willing to do it on my own and had planned to do so after trying PCT one last time.
I want to look my best around the end of May and maintain through the summer. I have 2-3 cycles worth of stuff, but can't decide how when to run it. I can get more of anything, but I want to try to use up as much as I can of what I've got. Any suggestions would be great.
What I have:
About 12 weeks worth of prop/mast/tren a at 50mg/day and I think I have extra prop.
2 vials of tren e 200mg/ml, 2 vials of EQ at 200mg/ml, 4-5 vials of test E, about 20ml of decca 300mg/ml
Maybe 4 weeks of liquid dbol at 25mg/day, 50 anadrol at 50mg
I have adex, caber, nolva, clomid if needed.
I was going to run two short six weeks cycles of tren/mast/prop with 6 weeks of cruising in-between with the first cycle ending about the end of May, then run then cruise on test e until late fall winter then run test e, decca, tren e in the fall. I read on here that you don't like short cycles, so I thought about combining the two. I've also considered started the long esters now and running the short ones over the summer.
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 215.4
Age:35
Bodyfat: higher than I want but on it's way down
Cycle history: several cycles over past couple of years. Gear used test e/c, deca, npp, dbol, var, oral winny, proviron tren e (only 200mg/week), sust, mast, EQ
I'm always on a recomp, but my cardio motivation is better than it has been in 15 years so I may actually get cut for a change. Re-comping and libido are my main goals. I had lost my libido, recovery, strength etc and felt like shit almost three years ago, so I turned to gear.
I'm currently about 3 weeks out of PCT. I probably need to start TRT, but my doc doesn't want to listen. I'm willing to do it on my own and had planned to do so after trying PCT one last time.
I want to look my best around the end of May and maintain through the summer. I have 2-3 cycles worth of stuff, but can't decide how when to run it. I can get more of anything, but I want to try to use up as much as I can of what I've got. Any suggestions would be great.
What I have:
About 12 weeks worth of prop/mast/tren a at 50mg/day and I think I have extra prop.
2 vials of tren e 200mg/ml, 2 vials of EQ at 200mg/ml, 4-5 vials of test E, about 20ml of decca 300mg/ml
Maybe 4 weeks of liquid dbol at 25mg/day, 50 anadrol at 50mg
I have adex, caber, nolva, clomid if needed.
I was going to run two short six weeks cycles of tren/mast/prop with 6 weeks of cruising in-between with the first cycle ending about the end of May, then run then cruise on test e until late fall winter then run test e, decca, tren e in the fall. I read on here that you don't like short cycles, so I thought about combining the two. I've also considered started the long esters now and running the short ones over the summer.
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 215.4
Age:35
Bodyfat: higher than I want but on it's way down
Cycle history: several cycles over past couple of years. Gear used test e/c, deca, npp, dbol, var, oral winny, proviron tren e (only 200mg/week), sust, mast, EQ
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heavyiron im looking to add another compound to my cycle for a lean hard look right now im using sustanon 750mg a week split eod inj i wanted to use tren but liver stress is not good for me so im thinking equipoise 15 weeks 600mgs aweek with liver support and plenty of water what do you think
Yes, but that will change the timing as prop has a shorter ester and Sust has a longer ester.
How does this cycle sound
Week 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
Week 1-10 Deca 250mg/wk
Week 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
Week 8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
Letro .5+ ED working way up to 2.5 ED
Pct
clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-14, 50mg after
Week 1-12 Test E 750mg/wk
Week 1-10 Deca 250mg/wk
Week 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
Week 8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
Letro .5+ ED working way up to 2.5 ED
Pct
clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-14, 50mg after
Heavy,
how to ease the crash when stopping T3, and what's the logic behind taking 25 mcg when thats about natural level? Is 37.5 mcg enough for cutting (with perfect diet and AAS) or should I go with at least 50 mcg?
how to ease the crash when stopping T3, and what's the logic behind taking 25 mcg when thats about natural level? Is 37.5 mcg enough for cutting (with perfect diet and AAS) or should I go with at least 50 mcg?
spartan1
Registered
Heavy I have 2 questions:
1) How long does it take for the blood pressure to come back down after discontinued use of Tren Hex?
2) Is there any reason or benefit to stop EQ before stopping test. What I mean is would there be any benefit of say stopping EQ in wk 15 and then stopping the test cyp in wk 18 ect.
1) How long does it take for the blood pressure to come back down after discontinued use of Tren Hex?
2) Is there any reason or benefit to stop EQ before stopping test. What I mean is would there be any benefit of say stopping EQ in wk 15 and then stopping the test cyp in wk 18 ect.
Interesting read, thanks for info Heavy......Just about any AAS will work for cutting as nutrition and training will mostly drive fat loss not the steroid. I would want to know more about the experience level of the person asking but a simple Testosterone cycle with an AI will work just fine. However, a more seasoned individual may want to stack several AAS for this goal. In my opinion not much beats a Testosterone, Trenbolone and Masteron stack. Here's an article I recently updated on cutting;
Cutting Cycle Synergy~the secret weapon~updated
For years bodybuilders have experimented with various compounds while in their cutting phases to find the ultimate AAS stack to assist in cutting body fat while preserving lean body mass. Almost any steroid may be used to cut with as long as nutrition, training and recovery are properly in place but as contest time approaches most bodybuilders want a hard, defined and dry look. This is a time when various low or non aromatizing anabolic steroids are employed.
The Secret Weapon
Certain anabolic steroids work synergistically with one another and years ago a particular stack started being used often by bodybuilders around the world. At first it was called “The Secret Weapon”. This stack is a powerful combination of anabolic steroids that can elicit a hard, dry grainy look. It preserves muscle mass even during extreme dieting. In fact, many users report gaining lean body mass while dieting on this powerful cocktail of anabolic steroids.
Cut Mix
The secret weapon is no longer a secret. Once this combination of steroids started gaining popularity the manufacturers of steroid products immediately started producing these steroids together in a blend. Most users who administer these blends are amazed at just how effective they are. Today The Secret Weapon is more commonly referred to as Cut Mix.
Cut Mix is a blend of 3 anabolic hormones. Each ml typically contains the following active ingredients: Drostanolone Propionate - 50 mg/ml, Testosterone Propionate - 50 mg/ml, Trenbolone Acetate - 50 mg/ml. Therefore 1ml Cut Mix daily equals 350mg Masteron, 350mg Testosterone Propionate and 350mg Trenbolone Acetate weekly.
One of the challenges with using a pre measured blend is you are locked into certain ratios. The above mix is a 1 to 1 to 1 ratio which may be problematic if you want to keep one compound lower or higher than another. For example, many guys like to run Testosterone at higher or lower doses in relationship to their Trenbolone dose. This is especially true towards the end of prep when the Testosterone dose may be dropped very low or altogether while the Trenbolone dose is kept higher. Therefore I personally like having all compounds in a separate vial so I can create whatever ratio I want depending on the period of the cycle I’m in.
Masteron (drostanolone propionate) is a moderately anabolic steroid that promotes increases in hardness, lean body mass and strength which has a positive effect on the potential for fat loss. Masteron does not possess any estrogenic activity and therefore water retention is highly unlikely. In fact, Masteron is often described as anti-estrogenic. This DHT derivative actually competes with other aromatizable substrates for binding to the aromatase enzyme. Masteron is not only a moderate anabolic but also a mild anti-estrogen which is very useful when stacking with low doses of other aromatizing steroids such as Testosterone.
Testosterone Propionate is a powerful mass building drug that is able to rapidly add gains in muscle size and strength. It’s the only aromatizing steroid in this stack but at reasonable doses aromatization is moderate. I'm convinced there's almost no other traditional injectable stack that's as potent and versatile as Testosterone and Trenbolone. It's a simple stack with enormous potential to harden muscle, promote fat loss and add raw strength. The addition of Masteron adds even more to this synergy as it acts as an anti-estrogen to control aromatization of Testosterone. If Testosterone doses are higher an Aromatase Inhibitor may be needed.
Trenbolone Acetate is at least 3 times more anabolic and androgenic than Testosterone or Nandrolone. Trenbolone binds to androgen receptors (ARs) with approximately three times the affinity of testosterone and has been shown to augment skeletal muscle mass and bone growth and reduce adiposity! Tren is one potent weapon in the bodybuilder’s arsenal. Trenbolone is a non-estrogenic steroid so water retention is highly unlikely. Stacking with complimentary steroids such as Testosterone maximizes Trenbolones potential and also reduces side effects such as loss of libido.
In addition to the Cut Mix several other medications are typically employed to further optimize the cutting cycle. The first compound is Winstrol tabs or an injectable preperation.
Stanozolol has an anabolic rating of 320 and an androgenic rating of 30 making it an excellent steroid for promoting muscle growth with zero water retention. Stanozolol cannot aromatize into estrogen so estrogenic side effects like water retention are not a factor. Winstrol is excellent for dieting bodybuilders and is best employed near the end of a cutting cycle to keep the user anabolic but give a dry shredded appearance. Winstrol significantly lowers SHBG even at very low doses in a matter of a few days. This is significant because that equates to more free testosterone. Winstrol stacked with testosterone means more testosterone stays free or active. Some users report increased sex drive when stacking Winstrol with testosterone. Basically Winstrol makes your testosterone work better and it can raise libido.
Oxandrolone is derived from DHT. It has a very strong separation of anabolic (about 525) and androgenic (24) effect, and no progestational or estrogenic activity. Anavar is noted for being quite mild as far as oral steroids are concerned, which is great for the promotion of strength and quality muscle tissue gains however lipids should be monitored as it will lower HDL significantly. Mg for mg it displays as much as five-six times the anabolic activity of testosterone in assays, with way less androgenicity. This drug is a favorite of dieting bodybuilders and competitive athletes in speed/anaerobic performance sports, where its tendency for LBM gain (without fat or water retention) fits well with the desired goals.
Cytomel or T3 is used to increase metabolic rate. This increase means more nutrient uptake including increased protein synthesis. Since oxidation rate is increased, energy demands are also increased. When you are in a calorie deficit this will mean even more fat loss when using T3. However, T3 is catabolic so it must be used with anabolic steroids to preserve lean body mass while dieting. Start with 25mcg’s T3 daily and after one week increase the T3 to 50mcg’s daily. After one week you may increase the T3 dose once again to 75mcg’s daily if needed.
Human Growth Hormone (HGH) has clearly been shown to increase lean body mass and to enhance fat loss while improving recovery and even helping with injury repair, especially cartilage. It is my opinion that maximal fat burning GH doses start somewhere around 4-6iu daily in men. For maximal fat burning AND adding maximal lean body mass that range appears to be around 8-12iu GH daily. I recommend at least 5 months of GH administration. GH is a long term commitment and there is a lesser benefit to using GH for shorter durations. This can be quite expensive so many users will skip days during the week. For example, the 5 on 2 off protocol is commonly used to get the desired effects but at the same time reduce cost. Basically the user administers a daily dose Mon-Fri and then dose not administer a dose on the weekends. Another popular protocol is only using GH every other day. The EOD method has some scientific support so it would be my first recommendation for GH users who want to reduce cost.
Many users report a synergy when using GH and Steroids together. It’s commonly reported that the fat burning effects and gains in LBM are much more profound with GH and Testosterone. Therefore in order to maximize the benefits of GH I would not use it alone and highly recommend stacking GH with AAS. Testosterone has been proven to reduce body fat and increase LBM in a dose dependent relationship; therefore I recommend that experienced male users administer at least 5iu GH daily for a duration of 5 months with anabolic steroids. Growth Hormone and the secret weapon stack will illicit increases in lean body mass and a significant reduction in body fat if nutrition, training and recovery are properly in place.
Stimulants are typically employed to further increase energy expenditure. Ephedrine and Caffeine are commonly used in this regard. Beta 2 agonists like Clenbuterol may also be used during a cut. All of these may act as an appetite suppressant as well. Personally I’m not a big fan of stimulants because they tend to make me jittery and agitated however I do use caffeine on a regular basis. Caffeine is inexpensive and works well for me. Clenbuterol has some science demonstrating that it’s slightly anabolic so if I was to advise on the use of any of these, Clen would be my preference for those who have no problems with these compounds.
Final 6 weeks of prep
Before the final 6 weeks of prep I recommend cutting on 50-100mg of Anadrol daily and 1 gram of Testosterone weekly. During this phase almost any combination of steroids may be used but I prefer these two compounds as they provide significant power and energy while dieting. An aromatase inhibitor may be used to control excessive aromatase activity from the Testosterone and always keep Nolvadex on hand in case gynocomastia presents. T3 may be loaded during this first part of the cutting phase.
The last 6 weeks of prep I recommend employing the Secret Weapon. Depending on the male users experience level you may inject between 0.5ml – 2 ml daily. However the preferred method is mixing your own ratios to suit your individual needs. I recommend daily injects during contest prep because that will yield the highest blood androgen levels. The Propionate esters from the Masteron and Testosterone possess a half life of about 48 hours however the decline is so significant by the 30th hour that waiting another 18 hours is counter productive. However, a gym rat doing a summer cut for the beach may opt for an every other day injection schedule. The following chart shows the pharmacokinetic characteristics of propionate.
Secret Weapon Sample Cutting Cycle
Week 1-4~One gram Testosterone weekly/50mg Anadrol daily/Arimidex as needed
Week 5~One gram Testosterone weekly/50mg Anadrol daily/25mcg’s T3 daily/Arimidex as needed
Week 6~One gram Testosterone weekly/50mg Anadrol daily/50mcg’s T3 daily/Arimidex as needed
Week 7-10~50mg Test Prop, 50mg Mast Prop, 50mg Tren Ace daily/50 mcg’s T3 daily/Arimidex as needed
Week 11-12~25mg Test Prop, 50mg Mast Prop, 50mg Tren Ace daily/50 mcg’s T3 daily/50mg Winstrol tabs daily/Arimidex as needed
Week 13~50mg Winstrol tabs daily/50mg Anavar tabs daily/50 mcg’s T3 daily/Arimidex as needed
The above cycle is just one example and may be modified to meet individual needs, however this basic cutting cycle has such powerful synergy that it will illicit amazing results if nutrition, training and recovery are dialed in.
References:
1. Effects of Human Growth Hormone in Men over 60 Years Old
2. Prevention of Growth Deceleration after Withdrawal of Growth Hormone Therapy in Idiopathic Short Stature
3. Synergistic effects of testosterone and growth hormone on protein metabolism and body composition in prepubertal boys.
4. The Effects of Growth Hormone and/or Testosterone in Healthy Elderly Men: A Randomized Controlled Trial
5. Tissue selectivity and potential clinical applications of trenbolone (17beta-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one): A potent anabolic steroid with reduced androgenic and estrogenic activity.
6. 17{beta}-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone) exhibits tissue selective anabolic activity: effects on muscle, bone, adiposity, hemoglobin, and prostate.
7. Effect of trenbolone acetate on protein synthesis and degradation rates in fused bovine satellite cell cultures.
8. Pharmacokinetic Properties of Testosterone Propionate in Norman Men.
9. Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men.
Proper nutrition will drive the cycle if you want to be hard and lean however Tren can help cause some serious changes to your physique when diet and training are dialed in. EQ is a bit weak but it does give quality gains without the sides of Tren. Sounds like you are leaning towards the EQ. Just get that diet dialed in brother and you will do fine.
I like starting cycles with a long estered Test and Deca. The combination provides plenty of horsepower and joint relief for heavy lifting. You can add D-bol and you will have a great mass phase in the beginning of the cycle (6-8 weeks). I then like to switch to Tren, Mast and Prop near the end to drop water and tighten up. Maybe another 6-8 weeks on the cutting phase.
I would run the d-bol at least 6 weeks myself.
The winny won't give you much so not sure its worth the lipid and liver stress. The 300mg Clomid dose is WAY too high and a complete waste.
Most guys taper off T3 to minimize a crash.
25mcg's T3 is fine for a taper but I feel the ideal T3 dose is generally 50mcg's daily.
stats..
6'0",43yrs,245lbs,don't know BF
Wanting to get lean and strong..
experience with test e, tren a, tren e..
been back lifting about ten months after 25 yr layoff..
did a test cycle and then a test tren a cycle..
was thinking about this..
750mg of test e wk for 12 wks
300mg of npp wk for 7 wks
350mg of tren a for last 5 wks
help me please..
6'0",43yrs,245lbs,don't know BF
Wanting to get lean and strong..
experience with test e, tren a, tren e..
been back lifting about ten months after 25 yr layoff..
did a test cycle and then a test tren a cycle..
was thinking about this..
750mg of test e wk for 12 wks
300mg of npp wk for 7 wks
350mg of tren a for last 5 wks
help me please..
Awesome! This is my Favorite Q/A thread solid material Heavy and sincerely much appreciatted the help and knowledge has been wonderful especially on all the hgh/insulin material. Utilizing your info is slowy assisting me to another level. As always thank you, Keep on keeping on brother.
Thanks!
Are you currently using any meds?
When did your last cycle conclude?
Do you experience side effects from Tren?
1. IT varies widely as diet, cardio and body fat greatly can effect BP. However within 1-2 months BP should return to normal if all things are equal. I use CQ-10 year around along with Hawthorne and Celery seed extract in IML's Advanced Cycle Support. This is a product that has worked very well for me in regards to BP.
IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Advanced Cycle Support
2. Most users prefer to have at least some Testosterone in their stacks because you do not produce Testosterone naturally while on steroids. Testosterone helps with improved, mood, energy and libido therefore using testosterone after discontinuing other steroids will make the cycle more comfortable. I like sex so for me testosterone is a HUGE benefit in almost any stack.
500mg test e wk...
cruised 6wks at 250mg test e wk upped to 500mg 2wks ago..
been off the tren for 8wks..
side effects of tren raised blood pressure with occasional nose bleeds when i added tren e with the tren a..