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XYZ i have posted medical studies in the anabolic zone about the harm of steroids and especially trenbolone causing chromosomal damage to user and offsprings..you can go to the anabolic zone and look it up...very easy
 
bjg said:
XYZ i have posted medical studies in the anabolic zone about the harm of steroids and especially trenbolone causing chromosomal damage to user and offsprings..you can go to the anabolic zone and look it up...very easy
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why don't you just repost it for us simple-minded juicers?.. you could find it twice as fast since you know where you posted it, and in which thread.
 
bjg said:
Again for all other new lifters: the ONLY gains that will stay with you are natural gains ONLY and whoever say the opposite is either a liar or he means harm to you as simple as that.
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You are fucking full of shit. That is not true. It is completely situational. A lifter could reach their natural peak much faster on gear followed by proper PCT, and they will hold onto their gains. Anything beyond their natural peak will slowly be lost over time if training stays consistent. Steroids will allow a person to put on mass faster while at the same time reducing the amount of fat they put on. There are more benefits to doing steroids than just building muscle: increased protein synthesis, increased healing rate, increased fat mobilization, enhanced connective tissue repair. Different steroids serve different purposes. Once a person reaches their goal for the amount of mass they wanted to add, then they can come off the gear and reduce their caloric intake to maintain. Will they maintain? Nobody knows until they try, because there are too many variables to consider to make a generalization. Depending on how far along they are, they may or may not digress. It depends on their genetics combined with their level of dedication towards diet and training.

You keep making ignorant blanket statements.
 
I just read this in one of your threads

"like saying cigarettes will not kill you...many smokers die from heart attacks and cancer ..but not from cigarettes!!!! smokers will tell you that no death was linked to cigarettes ..of course there is no illness called "cigarettes".

Are you that fucking dumb? Of course there is no illness called "cigarettes," but heart attacks and cancer are direct links from cig's. Do some research buddy, please.

Plus I want to see the so called "studies" about gear.
 
KelJu said:
You are fucking full of shit. That is not true. It is completely situational. A lifter could reach their natural peak much faster on gear followed by proper PCT, and they will hold onto their gains. Anything beyond their natural peak will slowly be lost over time if training stays consistent. Steroids will allow a person to put on mass faster while at the same time reducing the amount of fat they put on. There are more benefits to doing steroids than just building muscle: increased protein synthesis, increased healing rate, increased fat mobilization, enhanced connective tissue repair. Different steroids serve different purposes. Once a person reaches their goal for the amount of mass they wanted to add, then they can come off the gear and reduce their caloric intake to maintain. Will they maintain? Nobody knows until they try, because there are too many variables to consider to make a generalization. Depending on how far along they are, they may or may not digress. It depends on their genetics combined with their level of dedication towards diet and training.

You keep making ignorant blanket statements.
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you said it ..anything beyond natural will be lost ...as simple as that
and by the way unlike what you say millions have tried to maintain the gains after gear...many methods have been used ...all fail
the only way is the natural way ONLY ...one day you will agree with me ....you will see
 
SIDE EFFECTS OF TREN STEROIDS







Mar 8, 2011 | By Tomas Linnaeus


fotolia_991865_XS.jpg
Photo Credit watch your weight image by Keith Frith from <a href='http://www.fotolia.com'>Fotolia.com</a>The slang phrase "tren steroids" refers to use of trenbolone, a performance-enhancing drug invented in 1963 says "Advances in Environmental Biology.” This veterinary medication increases muscle size and caloric appetite in animals. Readily available, athletes such as body builders and weight lifters use tren steroids to enhance their physique and improve their strength. These drugs alter the body's natural testosterone system which is responsible for development and growth. Trenbolone is considerably more potent than testosterone, but it can cause both short-term reactions and long-term effects.
GENETIC DAMAGE

A 2007 report described in the journal "Advances in Environmental Biology" tested the effects of tren steroids on human lymphocytes, or white blood cells. These cells, maintained in a petri dish culture, are rarely abnormal. Yet, the addition of trenbolone produced a dramatic increase in the number of abnormal cells. This increase represents a change in chromosomal structure. Most cells experiencing such a change die off. Yet surviving cells can cause genetic changes in the host and the offspring.



PHYSICAL CHANGE

A 2007 study by H. K. Hotchkiss presented in the periodical "Toxicology Letters" looked at the impact of trenbolone in female rats. Fetuses exposed to tren steroids prior to birth displayed delayed puberty and deformed genitals. Trenbolone causes similar physical changes in male rats. A 2002 report in "Toxicological Sciences" showed that tren steroids shrank the adrenal gland. This study also indicated that trenbolone was far more effective when administered through the skin than by the mouth. This finding may explain why body builders typically use tren steroids in home-made transdermal preparations, says “Toxicology Letters.”
CHEMICAL CHANGE

A 1999 experiment offered in the "Journal of Animal Science" assessed the lipid content of steer meat. Lipids include natural chemicals like fats, vitamins and sterols. Cholesterol is a lipid of particular interest due to its potential role in heart disease. Trenbolone pellets are often implanted into steers to increase their growth. Such implants, unfortunately, increase the cholesterol content present in steak. People may also absorb steroid additives directly from steak as well, says the "Journal of Animal Science.”
BEHAVIORAL CHANGE

Two reports described by the "International Programme on Chemical Safety" observed changes in behavior induced by tren steroids. Male and female rats were given active metabolites of trenbolone: 17-alpha-trenbolone or 17-beta-trenbolone. Males, but not females, exhibited drug-induced behavioral changes. These rats frequently salivated and consumed more food than controls.
IMMUNE SUPPRESSION

A 2007 investigation in the "Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health" evaluated the effects of tren steroids on the immune system. Male rats received either trenbolone, testosterone, or saline. A delayed-type hypersensitivity test measured immune function. For this test, a potential allergen is placed under the skin, and the appearance of a rash within 72 hours indicates a positive reaction. A positive reaction indicates normal immunity. Rats given tren steroids showed less rash relative to those given either testosterone or saline.
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bjg said:
SIDE EFFECTS OF TREN STEROIDS







Mar 8, 2011 | By Tomas Linnaeus


fotolia_991865_XS.jpg
Photo Credit watch your weight image by Keith Frith from <a rel='nofollow' href='http://www.fotolia.com'>Fotolia.com</a>The slang phrase "tren steroids" refers to use of trenbolone, a performance-enhancing drug invented in 1963 says "Advances in Environmental Biology.” This veterinary medication increases muscle size and caloric appetite in animals. Readily available, athletes such as body builders and weight lifters use tren steroids to enhance their physique and improve their strength. These drugs alter the body's natural testosterone system which is responsible for development and growth. Trenbolone is considerably more potent than testosterone, but it can cause both short-term reactions and long-term effects.
GENETIC DAMAGE

A 2007 report described in the journal "Advances in Environmental Biology" tested the effects of tren steroids on human lymphocytes, or white blood cells. These cells, maintained in a petri dish culture, are rarely abnormal. Yet, the addition of trenbolone produced a dramatic increase in the number of abnormal cells. This increase represents a change in chromosomal structure. Most cells experiencing such a change die off. Yet surviving cells can cause genetic changes in the host and the offspring.



PHYSICAL CHANGE

A 2007 study by H. K. Hotchkiss presented in the periodical "Toxicology Letters" looked at the impact of trenbolone in female rats. Fetuses exposed to tren steroids prior to birth displayed delayed puberty and deformed genitals. Trenbolone causes similar physical changes in male rats. A 2002 report in "Toxicological Sciences" showed that tren steroids shrank the adrenal gland. This study also indicated that trenbolone was far more effective when administered through the skin than by the mouth. This finding may explain why body builders typically use tren steroids in home-made transdermal preparations, says “Toxicology Letters.”
CHEMICAL CHANGE

A 1999 experiment offered in the "Journal of Animal Science" assessed the lipid content of steer meat. Lipids include natural chemicals like fats, vitamins and sterols. Cholesterol is a lipid of particular interest due to its potential role in heart disease. Trenbolone pellets are often implanted into steers to increase their growth. Such implants, unfortunately, increase the cholesterol content present in steak. People may also absorb steroid additives directly from steak as well, says the "Journal of Animal Science.”
BEHAVIORAL CHANGE

Two reports described by the "International Programme on Chemical Safety" observed changes in behavior induced by tren steroids. Male and female rats were given active metabolites of trenbolone: 17-alpha-trenbolone or 17-beta-trenbolone. Males, but not females, exhibited drug-induced behavioral changes. These rats frequently salivated and consumed more food than controls.
IMMUNE SUPPRESSION

A 2007 investigation in the "Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health" evaluated the effects of tren steroids on the immune system. Male rats received either trenbolone, testosterone, or saline. A delayed-type hypersensitivity test measured immune function. For this test, a potential allergen is placed under the skin, and the appearance of a rash within 72 hours indicates a positive reaction. A positive reaction indicates normal immunity. Rats given tren steroids showed less rash relative to those given either testosterone or saline.
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Read more: Side Effects Of Tren Steroids | LIVESTRONG.COM​
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well thank good to cattle farmers. They have given us women with bigger titties and fatter asses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would like to ask a question to the vets on here pertaining to ( BLOWING JACKED GUYS ) AKA bjg post.

HOW, can you take anything from what he has posted???? For all anyone knows, what was the amount of substances they gave the white blood cells?? Without the details to this STUDY how can one come to a conclusion, it would have any adverse side effects. Maybe it is just because I am a dumb fuck and all. But without all the info this post he has made means jack shit to me.............

One of my guys is on tren, maybe his shit is bunk because i don't see him drooling all over the place!!!!!
 
BJG aka blowing jaked guys... WILL YOU PLEASE POST UP A RESENT PICTURE OF YOURSELF???????????? For all the information that you say is true you have to be the biggest, jacked, yoked mother fucker on this site. I have never neeged anyone on this site before but I can only wonder how the hell you stay in the green.................
 
bjg said:
SIDE EFFECTS OF TREN STEROIDS







Mar 8, 2011 | By Tomas Linnaeus


fotolia_991865_XS.jpg
Photo Credit watch your weight image by Keith Frith from <a rel='nofollow' href='http://www.fotolia.com'>Fotolia.com</a>The slang phrase "tren steroids" refers to use of trenbolone, a performance-enhancing drug invented in 1963 says "Advances in Environmental Biology.” This veterinary medication increases muscle size and caloric appetite in animals. Readily available, athletes such as body builders and weight lifters use tren steroids to enhance their physique and improve their strength. These drugs alter the body's natural testosterone system which is responsible for development and growth. Trenbolone is considerably more potent than testosterone, but it can cause both short-term reactions and long-term effects.
GENETIC DAMAGE

A 2007 report described in the journal "Advances in Environmental Biology" tested the effects of tren steroids on human lymphocytes, or white blood cells. These cells, maintained in a petri dish culture, are rarely abnormal. Yet, the addition of trenbolone produced a dramatic increase in the number of abnormal cells. This increase represents a change in chromosomal structure. Most cells experiencing such a change die off. Yet surviving cells can cause genetic changes in the host and the offspring.



PHYSICAL CHANGE

A 2007 study by H. K. Hotchkiss presented in the periodical "Toxicology Letters" looked at the impact of trenbolone in female rats. Fetuses exposed to tren steroids prior to birth displayed delayed puberty and deformed genitals. Trenbolone causes similar physical changes in male rats. A 2002 report in "Toxicological Sciences" showed that tren steroids shrank the adrenal gland. This study also indicated that trenbolone was far more effective when administered through the skin than by the mouth. This finding may explain why body builders typically use tren steroids in home-made transdermal preparations, says “Toxicology Letters.”

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so you expose a fetus to trenbolone and it gets a little fucked up? Really? No shit lol.. you expose a fetus to anything and itll get fucked up.. E.G. alcohol, tabacco..accutane etc..

this is hardly ground-breaking stuff..
 
I thought the thread title was "reason for being natural"? So far off topic at this point it deserves to be locked.


5"10
195lbs

Currently cycle:
Cruising on 250mg Test Cyp/week.
 
bjg said:
XYZ i have posted medical studies in the anabolic zone about the harm of steroids and especially trenbolone causing chromosomal damage to user and offsprings..you can go to the anabolic zone and look it up...very easy
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You're wrong.

There is no medical studies done with tren on humans, because it's not made for humans.

You also missed the point that YOU said primo will not cause shutdown at 100mg EW. This is the study I want you to post and if you don't you'll just be another liar who doesn't know what he's talking about.

You're really out of line in a lot of your posts, if you don't like or support AAS, fine. Nobody should bash you, but when you come in here and start shooting your mouth off with no medical studies to back your mouth up, you need to shut your mouth PERIOD.
 
bjg said:
side effects of tren steroids







mar 8, 2011 | by tomas linnaeus


fotolia_991865_xs.jpg
photo credit watch your weight image by keith frith from <a rel='nofollow' href='http://www.fotolia.com'>fotolia.com</a>the slang phrase "tren steroids" refers to use of trenbolone, a performance-enhancing drug invented in 1963 says "advances in environmental biology.” this veterinary medication increases muscle size and caloric appetite in animals. Readily available, athletes such as body builders and weight lifters use tren steroids to enhance their physique and improve their strength. These drugs alter the body's natural testosterone system which is responsible for development and growth. Trenbolone is considerably more potent than testosterone, but it can cause both short-term reactions and long-term effects.
genetic damage

a 2007 report described in the journal "advances in environmental biology" tested the effects of tren steroids on human lymphocytes, or white blood cells. These cells, maintained in a petri dish culture, are rarely abnormal. Yet, the addition of trenbolone produced a dramatic increase in the number of abnormal cells. This increase represents a change in chromosomal structure. Most cells experiencing such a change die off. Yet surviving cells can cause genetic changes in the host and the offspring.



physical change

a 2007 study by h. K. Hotchkiss presented in the periodical "toxicology letters" looked at the impact of trenbolone in female rats. Fetuses exposed to tren steroids prior to birth displayed delayed puberty and deformed genitals. Trenbolone causes similar physical changes in male rats. A 2002 report in "toxicological sciences" showed that tren steroids shrank the adrenal gland. This study also indicated that trenbolone was far more effective when administered through the skin than by the mouth. This finding may explain why body builders typically use tren steroids in home-made transdermal preparations, says “toxicology letters.”
chemical change

a 1999 experiment offered in the "journal of animal science" assessed the lipid content of steer meat. Lipids include natural chemicals like fats, vitamins and sterols. Cholesterol is a lipid of particular interest due to its potential role in heart disease. Trenbolone pellets are often implanted into steers to increase their growth. Such implants, unfortunately, increase the cholesterol content present in steak. People may also absorb steroid additives directly from steak as well, says the "journal of animal science.”
behavioral change

two reports described by the "international programme on chemical safety" observed changes in behavior induced by tren steroids. Male and female rats were given active metabolites of trenbolone: 17-alpha-trenbolone or 17-beta-trenbolone. Males, but not females, exhibited drug-induced behavioral changes. These rats frequently salivated and consumed more food than controls.
immune suppression

a 2007 investigation in the "journal of toxicology and environmental health" evaluated the effects of tren steroids on the immune system. Male rats received either trenbolone, testosterone, or saline. A delayed-type hypersensitivity test measured immune function. For this test, a potential allergen is placed under the skin, and the appearance of a rash within 72 hours indicates a positive reaction. A positive reaction indicates normal immunity. Rats given tren steroids showed less rash relative to those given either testosterone or saline.
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this is not a medical study done on humans, because tren isn't for human use and their are no studies.
 
cross80 said:
BJG aka blowing jaked guys... WILL YOU PLEASE POST UP A RESENT PICTURE OF YOURSELF???????????? For all the information that you say is true you have to be the biggest, jacked, yoked mother fucker on this site. I have never neeged anyone on this site before but I can only wonder how the hell you stay in the green.................
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this guy is a stuid fuck, i used to neg him everyday, idk ho he got back green or why he is still on this site. hes such a worthless life
P.S. bjg i will now neg u everytime i see ur name just like i used to
 
cross80 said:
If a guy wants to take gear who gives a fuck.
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This. It's a personal choice or decision. Keep your opinions on a respectful level, gentlemen.

cross80 said:
I think this is the worst damn section on this site... Sorry for the rant but some people need to get real.
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Some of "the worst damn" behavior or examples of disrespect and childishness perhaps. I don't get it.

I don't give a **** if you're 5'2 or 7'2, if you can bench 100 or 900 lbs. This is the Natural subforum placed here at the generosity of Prince and for the purpose -- I thought, anyway -- for people to share their information/questions/discussion about Natural Bodybuilding or weight training/power lifting.

This subforum was not created, imo, to slam members or disrespect other members.
 
Curt James said:
This. It's a personal choice or decision. Keep your opinions on a respectful level, gentlemen.



Some of "the worst damn" behavior or examples of disrespect and childishness perhaps. I don't get it.

I don't give a **** if you're 5'2 or 7'2, if you can bench 100 or 900 lbs. This is the Natural subforum placed here at the generosity of Prince and for the purpose -- I thought, anyway -- for people to share their information/questions/discussion about Natural Bodybuilding or weight training/power lifting.

This subforum was not created, imo, to slam members or disrespect other members.
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OK curt I get your point sure....... But as a super mod as you are how can you allow someone who is completely delusional in his posts and continue to post the fucking BS that he does. So I just want to get this straight if you don't mind. If say one said person comes on here and blatantly spews BS that his community should just say bad boy now stop your silliness and move one???????


And sorry I did not realize that this forum was so PC being as the nature of the topics that are discussed. I will respectfully refrain from using harsh language. SO as that I do not offend anyone feelings.

And yes this is the worst thread on this forum. If you would take the time to read everyone of his threads or post you will see that he is in fact full of CRAP. This guy has no clue.


AND JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS i HAVE NEVER DONE A CYCLE OF AAS. I DO NOT PROMOTE NOR DO I DENOUNCE THE USE OF SUCH A PRODUCT.

Childish as it maybe in your opinion but this guy is more dangerous to some than others with his idiotic opinions and advice. For someone ( BJG ) who claims to be some type of med professor he can barley structure a sentence. Or do anything else for that matter........


But thank you for pointing me out as you said you are correct this is a NATURAL SUB FORUM. Not a forum to spew utter nonsense about the use of aas. So maybe his threads should be moved to a more appropriate forum.... Just my 2 cents
 
in my defense (though no one was attacking me), the only reason i became involved in this thread/forum, was because of the hideous misinformation being spread by bgj.


He was telling guys to cycle by using 50mg of test a week...and they were considering it, i could not remain complacent. Im withdrawing from this forum forever, simply too much arrogance coupled with ignorance here.
 
cross80 said:
OK curt I get your point sure.......
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Fwiw, my comments were directed towards anyone who felt the need to belittle someone for an opinion.

The thread is titled "Reason for being "natural"?" I'm not quite sure how it became the "you're racist" thread and a platform to defend the use of AAS.

You don't appreciate the guy then put him on ignore, please. One option.

Just as no one posting "DO STEROOOOIDS!" is going to suddenly have me shooting up, this guy's posts screaming "TEST WILL KILL U!!!!" do not have any impact on my decision making. Most intelligent people will look for multiple sources of information before reaching a conclusion or choosing a course of action.

Don't you agree? :thinking:
 
Curt James said:
Fwiw, my comments were directed towards anyone who felt the need to belittle someone for an opinion.

The thread is titled "Reason for being "natural"?" I'm not quite sure how it became the "you're racist" thread and a platform to defend the use of AAS.

You don't appreciate the guy then put him on ignore, please. One option.

Just as no one posting "DO STEROOOOIDS!" is going to suddenly have me shooting up, this guy's posts screaming "TEST WILL KILL U!!!!" do not have any impact on my decision making. Most intelligent people will look for multiple sources of information before reaching a conclusion or choosing a course of action.

Don't you agree? :thinking:
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Yes I completely agree which this guy has not....................... He is simply stating his opinion which has no factual basis.. This guys whole basis is he is over 50 and is better off than anyone who has ever taken steroids then continually post completely idiotic posts about things that are in fact untrue. Anyone with simple paragraph comprehension can see he back pedals in his own statement's . I am not defending the use of aas and I don't think that is anyone's point, that has posted in this thread. Excuse me for speaking for the rest of you but I believe their points are that if he is going to post things then he needs to at least back up his statements with TRUE substantiated work. This guy has been neeeged from the start of him joining this site if that does not say anything then I don't know what else to say. AND I AM A NEEWB AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF GUYS WITH PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE WHO ARE TELLING THIS GUY TO GET A CLUE AND STOP WITH HIS PROPAGATED BS.

I realize this guy has an agenda but if he wants to come on here and EDUCATE PEOPLE. HE NEEDS TO SUPPORT HIS ARGUMENTS. HIM BEING A PROFESSOR OF WHAT EVER HE CLAIMS TO BE ONE WHO ASSUME HE WOULD KNOW THIS ALREADY.'

And I am done with this thread as well... GOOD LUCK BJG........
 
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^^^^ cross80, do you have anything to contribute to this thread which applies to the following question?

PITBULL915 said:
For those who are natural, what's your reason to choose being natural?
Legality?
Price?
Availability?
Morals?
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PITBULL915 said:
For those who are natural, what's your reason to choose being natural?
Legality?
Price?
Availability?
Morals?
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I've used IronMagLabs 1-Andro Rx, Super-DMZ Rx, and Cyanostane Rx. Legality is a concern, obviously, and therefore I'm grateful for IronMagLabs products.

Knowledge is another factor. I simply do not know (nor have the time or interest to educate myself) enough about pinning, the various compounds, etc.

Price could be a factor, though I've heard that a simple test cycle is not especially cost prohibitive. Being nearly 50 my insurance might even cover part or all of TRT/HRT.
 
Curt James said:
^^^^ cross80, do you have anything to contribute to this thread which applies to the following question?
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Sure last post in this thread..........

legality???? Seriously everyone does things that are illegal. Speeding, so on and so on. So no legality is not a concern. CONSEQUENCES OF BEING CAUGHT SURE. No one wants to get busted.

Price?? Everyone wastes money on BS everyday so this is some what of a mute ? If one wanted to acquire the funds to endeavor into such a life style they will..

Availability???? Sure one wants to know who they get it from is going to give them what they have purchased.

Moral? This is a tricky ? Because morals are based on a societal view. Not a personal view. But then again people pick and choose which morals they feel are correct.


But for me I have never used anything PH or AAS. I have used creatine, bcaa's and regular shit. My biggest thing is time due to my job, if I am going to do such said products. I need time. And I don't have that right now when I go to the field or I deploy I cannot guarantee proper diet or training. But now that has all changed... I do not condone people using anything. That is a personal choice not one that I should say do or not to do. But my biggest thing is being properly educated. If one wishes to use or even provide information on it do so in the correct way. BEING unbiased. Hope that answers your questions curt.
 
cross80 said:
OK curt I get your point sure....... But as a super mod as you are how can you allow someone who is completely delusional in his posts and continue to post the fucking BS that he does. So I just want to get this straight if you don't mind. If say one said person comes on here and blatantly spews BS that his community should just say bad boy now stop your silliness and move one???????


And sorry I did not realize that this forum was so PC being as the nature of the topics that are discussed. I will respectfully refrain from using harsh language. SO as that I do not offend anyone feelings.

And yes this is the worst thread on this forum. If you would take the time to read everyone of his threads or post you will see that he is in fact full of CRAP. This guy has no clue.


AND JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS i HAVE NEVER DONE A CYCLE OF AAS. I DO NOT PROMOTE NOR DO I DENOUNCE THE USE OF SUCH A PRODUCT.

Childish as it maybe in your opinion but this guy is more dangerous to some than others with his idiotic opinions and advice. For someone ( BJG ) who claims to be some type of med professor he can barley structure a sentence. Or do anything else for that matter........


But thank you for pointing me out as you said you are correct this is a NATURAL SUB FORUM. Not a forum to spew utter nonsense about the use of aas. So maybe his threads should be moved to a more appropriate forum.... Just my 2 cents
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1-since you do not use AAS ..i cannot understand then why you are replying to me in such manner??? Answer: you don't really care about discussing bodybuilding you are just here to insult people.
2- when i was lifting you were not born yet
3- I write English better than anyone on this forum trust me ...if i write fast here it is because i have no time to correct myself + i speak and write fluently 4 languages and i have a PhD from Texas A&M university so i don't think you even come close to being qualified for judging me not you and not all of your friends.
4- If you have something relevant to the subject of natural bodybuilding it would be more constructive rather that wasting all your talents and killing yourself to insult others , aiming to be interesting and funny ...because you are not
 
There are plenty of reasons for being natural. The biggest one I can think of is pure health. You can't be healthy down the road by taking a bunch of stuff. I know a friend that did some cycles and then got off. He went to the doc and his blood work was CRAZY. He is taking a bunch of stuff just to get normal again. The stuff is dangerous and honestly it's not for everyone...
 
cross80 said:
NO your advise as stated above and on page two of this thread is to follow some BS protocol... I know your kind buddy......... YOU are that 50 plus year old man at the gym who walks around and makes women feel uncomfortable. You look at the equipment all lost and confused. You tell the younger guys what you COULD have lifted back in the days. And your a skinny fat old man who looks in the mirror and says man only if I would not have been so lazy as a young adult, I might be still be pulling pussy today. Rather than cruising the streets at midnight looking for the cheapest tranny you can find. Besides all that I have said about the truth about you.. You are a pacifist when it come to people calling you out on the BS you say... Go suck start and tranny guy.. You and your words are BS...........:lifter:
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Damn, you almost described me! lol
 
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