Hey guys, Im looking for a fat burner that wont cause a whole lot of wired feeling to the body. Im caffeine sensitive, this has been the main reason I havent messed with them in the past. If any of the moderators, sponsors or members can advice something for me to start with, I would appreciate it!
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There's several old school methods that really work in a situation such as you describe.
All have to do with liver function and metabolism. Logic bein " if you can control the metabolism, you can control fat loss."
Choline
Inositol
Guarana from yota cactus ( viodine instead of caffeine)
Green tea
Parsley tea (Really gets rid of some water)
Yohimbine
Triacana ( Like T3 but without the jitters and a lot safer also effects Thyroid not liver)
Injectable L-Carnitine
Gugglestrone Also stimulates thyroid
you may consider this as well as an option
Frag 176-191 ( peptide I had some success with in my experience's use'n it)
There are several fat burners that are designed for what your look'n for made by several solid companies. The one's listed above are just the one's I have had personal experience with. Not meant to be presented as "suggestions", just as possibles to reach'n your goals.
Peace and Love
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OutWhey
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All my clients use ADDERLLIN when we are trying to loose stubborn bodyfat and it always does the trick.
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OutWhey
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Never heard of it? I am shocked actually. The stuff is commonly used around here.Wow, never heard of it. Always nice to hear about something new
Im using hgh frag at the moment along with grf1-29, and ghrp-6. I cant really comment on the frag, but the grf, and ghrp-6 are good to go. Hey, Superman, if introduce igf after training will this help aid in fat loss, due to carbs being shuttled into muscles for energy and repair? I know of peolpe who claim to shed fat while on ghrp-6, this is not the case for me, yes my diet is still clean even though the cravings for food suck while on ghrps.
I tried Clenbuterol in the past and Yohimbe and ephidrine....every single one of those made me feel extremely jittery and weird sensations in the head that I just couldn't handle. Now, I just watch what I eat. Think moderation.
Than you for the honest opinion of products!
I think i'll try out Adderllin soon, heard good stuff about it.
Probably not a good option for the OP though due to the caffeine and what not in it.
cavtrooper96
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You posted in the wrong section. I have had good success with albuterol. Similiar to clen with shorter half life and less sides. I have heard good things about oxy elite pro.
ksundry77
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My fiance and I have both taken OxyElite....great product, but if you're looking for a lower stim dose try Recreate (my girl wanted to cycle off the higher stimulant product to give adrenals a break). Review says it "promotes fat loss in 23 different pathways" (don't know about all that, but she's all about it-I suppose you can do the research if you want to learn more).
i have goten good results with alphat2 and it is non stim.work good for me i love it.
i would STRONGLY rec need2slin then for you. using it now WITH some stims . need2slin dotn give me any edgyness at all.
Bingo, this exactly what I was going to suggest. We normally carry it at Orbit; it's OOS right now, but should be back shortly.
ALPHA-T2 (90 capsules) PES
yea thats where i have bought my last two bottles from and the erase all so good supplments right there.i all so bought my havoc from there good stuff all so.
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Just done a search, cant fid this stuff in the uk
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yea and all so works as a great preworkout supplment all so .another one of those all in one.j/k thats stuff has but everybody in my town in jail.bad bad stuff kids
Where can I find Phentermine?
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I do believe that Triacana is illegal now(im sure someone is making it somewhere, just not original manufacturer)
everything else you have listed is good!
the yohimbe may be an issue(as it is a mild stim)
inj l- carnitine is a really good one..
as far as yohimbe( if you can find a good, pure yohimbine product, you can mix with dmso and spread on skin where you have biggest fat stores... i know, they say spot reduction doesn't work... but I made a cocktail with adex, nolva, yohimbine, t3, with dmso... and spread it on those problem areas... it worked fkn awesome!... and taking the mechanisms of action of these compounds into effect, they will work this way theoretically.. and, in practice as well.. I have used it, along with several friends.. we all got great results from it!) this way, though the yohimbe does go systemic do a degree, it is more centralized to the area it is applied, as it works at cellular level in brown fat to burn fat... so you would have less of a stim effect from it...
there are precautions that must be taken with dmso though... you can have bacteria cross the skin barrier into the body if you don't take these precautions!
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ip does have it ... and phentermine is an amphetamine... has major stim activity to it!
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albuterol is a stim too..works on a different pathway than caffeine, but it is a sympathetic NS stim, causes increased heart rate... has put me into full blown tacchycardia(just using it for asthma, not for fat loss)... 240pulse, ER, Adenosine injection...NOT FUN!!!
also, for the person that posted Adderal... this is amphetamines...(I just reread that ... Adderlin.. this must be a supp.. sorry... but I'm leaving the adderal comment just in case someone suggests that...
I don't know if the people posting on this thread just didn't read the OP, or if they don't know what they are putting in their bodies... but phentermine, adderal, albuterol, clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, dimethyethylamine, even yohimbe(to a lesser degree, and along a slightly diff pathway)....THESE ARE ALL STIMS...IF THIS GUY HAS A PREEXISTING CONDITION, THE ADVICE PEOPLE ARE GIVING HIM COULD KILL HIM!!!
I have heard good things of T2 product mentioned.. also t3(though it can raise heart rate) is not a stim, t4 may be an even safer bet....but, as digitalash said(a pic is worth 1000 words..) cardio, my friend... cardio... and clean the diet up....if you have a clean diet and are doing cardio(especially morning, fasting cardio), you will lean out.... most thermogenic agents are also stims(beta agonists, for the most part, cause thermogenesis)...
one that isn't on here, and I have used it with great success, along with many people I have trained... Usnic acid....this compound is not the easiest thing to find(I do believe it was in the original Triacana formula)... there is a sponsor on here that did have it(not sure if he still does, but he may get it if you ask, if he doesn't have it).. Usnic acid can be quite liver toxic if used in high doses(this is definitely one of the 'more is not better' compounds).. it does not take much to do the trick. it has zero stimulant effects, it works as an uncoupling protein... do your research before jumping the gun on it... it is highly effective, but you don't want to end up jacking your liver up..
AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MIRACLE IN A BOTTLE! DIET, CARDIO, DEDICATION, WILL POWER ARE BETTER THAN ANY SUBSTANCE/COMPOUND!!!
clen is definately better than albuterol (I'm prescribed albuterol for asthma). But if you take too much clen you got to wait out the shakiness and increased heart rate for about a day atleast with albuteral if you become uncomfortable the sides go away in a few hours. And you can take stims you just have to start out really small to and slowly work your way up to find your tolerance than don't exceed it. But diet and cardio is the best for fat loss as far as feeling good and safety is concerned. Make sure there on point before taking anything extra.
then worry about clen, t3, aas, and the other stuff - lose what you can without anything then add the compounds end - got my wife on that program - started off with just exercise then added adipex, then t3, adding ipam / cjc1295 next week and then in 6 weeks we are adding var for 6 weeks --- use the compounds to push you through each level
best of luck !
best of luck !
