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Recovering crashed gear

AnabollicA

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I got 5 vials of Tren Acetate that totally crashed during shipping (it chilled up out here, & that's what the supplier said). They all are crystalled up inside. I tried boiling some water & immersing the vials...that worked for a day and then they crashed again. Then I heated up some water in the microwave & dropped them in one by one. That worked for a couple days, but they crashed again.

I searched posts saying to add some BA or BB and then reheat. I have some on order on its way. My question is, how much to add to each vial? Would injecting .25ml be too much, or too little? And which would be better to use - benzyl alcohol or benzyl benzoate?

:hmmm:

Sorry, I am not in any least bit a chemist...just a user in need of getting huge!
 
It's almost impossible to make tren so badly that it'll crash. Find a new supplier. 18-20 bb should hold it. You don't need to add more ba. So if I were you I would add 1 cc of bb per vial. That should do it. I would also resterilize and re filter.
 
BigD4life said:
It's almost impossible to make tren so badly that it'll crash. Find a new supplier. 18-20 bb should hold it. You don't need to add more ba. So if I were you I would add 1 cc of bb per vial. That should do it. I would also resterilize and re filter.
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^^^Solid advice here.:winkfinger:
 
Thanks. This supplier has been reliable for the past year I've been using them. They are replacing the order too which is a real plus. But I have back-ups; I've learned to always have alternate sources in this endeavor! :)

Is it really necessary to refilter & resterilize if I'm drawing from one sterile vial and injecting the BB into another sterile vial, with a sterile syringe?
 
AnabollicA said:
Thanks. This supplier has been reliable for the past year I've been using them. They are replacing the order too which is a real plus. But I have back-ups; I've learned to always have alternate sources in this endeavor! :)

Is it really necessary to refilter & resterilize if I'm drawing from one sterile vial and injecting the BB into another sterile vial, with a sterile syringe?
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I would do both. IMHO better safe than infected lol. But it's up to you. That's just what I would do
 
I don't want to get infected either; it just seems a bit beyond my skill set. It sounds like there is a lot I steps to your proposed process that I have no experience in executing. I'll probably just go with the replacements unless there is a detailed video to follow.

Knowledge is power. Some questions I would have are:
Do I remove the contents with a syringe or remove the tops of the vials?
How do I filter it? I've seen the whatmans, how the heck to they attach?
How do I sterilize?
How do I reseal the vials?

If this is all explained in the home brew section, I'll head there. I did searches and couldn't really find detailed process of doing it.

Thanks for the advice. I may be in over my head though with the filtering & sterilizing stuff.
 
BigD4life said:
It's almost impossible to make tren so badly that it'll crash. Find a new supplier. 18-20 bb should hold it. You don't need to add more ba. So if I were you I would add 1 cc of bb per vial. That should do it. I would also resterilize and re filter.
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wow 20% bb will hold it alright, but it will hurt like crazy. i personally think 10% will do the trick.
 
Would one consider if the gear has crashed over and over again, that it may be infected and not be wise to inject? I'm having similar issues.
 
SUPERFLY1234 said:
wow 20% bb will hold it alright, but it will hurt like crazy. i personally think 10% will do the trick.
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Brother I make this ALL the time lol. All the time. There's a standard recipe for most long ester hormones. That recipe is 2% ba 18-20% bb. You can deff get away with less. With some you can get away with no bb at all, but the amount of bb makes it more diluted, which actually makes it a bit easier to inject.
 
BigD4life said:
It's almost impossible to make tren so badly that it'll crash. Find a new supplier. 18-20 bb should hold it. You don't need to add more ba. So if I were you I would add 1 cc of bb per vial. That should do it. I would also resterilize and re filter.
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BigD is the man and knows his shit...listen to this mofo..lol..

You my man bro! :thumb:
 
SUPERFLY1234 said:
wow 20% bb will hold it alright, but it will hurt like crazy. i personally think 10% will do the trick.
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For a trial run...I just made 20ml of deca 200mg with 2/20 and gso...the shit was smooth as hell
 
why not pin after you heat it up in water? just asking
 
ok, but is it still good even if it re crystalizes in the muscle?
 
ok, well OP. just heat up and pin away.
thanks for the answer bigD
 
that's crazy, but mine crashes all the time. I think it's the oil I used. Refined coconut. The stuff goes solid and/or crystalizes beforehand if it gets cold. I just reheat, shake and inject. Not one issue so far.
 
Drumhead138 said:
that's crazy, but mine crashes all the time. I think it's the oil I used. Refined coconut. The stuff goes solid and/or crystalizes beforehand if it gets cold. I just reheat, shake and inject. Not one issue so far.
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I don't think it's the oil bro. The oil is just a carrier. It crashes coz the way it was made. But it can be heated and injected as you mentioned
 
Well this time instead of refined grape seed oil I used refined coconut oil. and when that stuff gets cold it solidifies. When it came to me solid I thought WTF?? but then I heated it up and put my gear in there and baked it just like always. And it goes in fine, but with autumn and now winter coming on, it's ALWAYS solid. I have to warm it up, shake the bottle before I inject.

Other than that it works like a charm! Maybe that's not crashing? But I know it seems to settle. And, I've made this stuff LOTS of times. The only difference is the oil I used this past time. I heard great things about Coconut oil so I thought why not?
 
Drumhead138 said:
Well this time instead of refined grape seed oil I used refined coconut oil. and when that stuff gets cold it solidifies. When it came to me solid I thought WTF?? but then I heated it up and put my gear in there and baked it just like always. And it goes in fine, but with autumn and now winter coming on, it's ALWAYS solid. I have to warm it up, shake the bottle before I inject.

Other than that it works like a charm! Maybe that's not crashing? But I know it seems to settle. And, I've made this stuff LOTS of times. The only difference is the oil I used this past time. I heard great things about Coconut oil so I thought why not?
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You'll have some good smelling gear lol
 
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