Rotating Steroids?

[Standard Donkey]

I've read a lot of talk about the necessity of rotating steroids in order to promote continued growth in a long-term cycle. Apparently, it's supposed to help avoid stagnation when it comes to gains... though the idea seems a bit silly to me.


So i am making this thread to receive input from others. I am aware of the myostatin increase that the roll it plays in slowing down gains, but is rotating gear compounds an effective method of circumventing this?

would anyone say that rotating compounds is more effective than simply upping the dose of what one is currently taking?



discuss

 

[theCaptn']

Subbed. Interesting topic.

 

[_LG_]

Up the dose. Fluctuating hormone levels are a detriment in my opinion, and this is inevitable when rotating compounds.

 

[S_walker]

Sub'd

Great question SD

 

[Standard Donkey]

well a current IFBB pro just emailed me and told me that rotating is better..


that's all he said

 

[theCaptn']

Just to clarify, an example would be swapping deca for tren is the idea of rotating gears within a cycle?

 

[THEWIZARDOFKOZ]

intrerested to hear other thoughts

 

[SloppyJ]

Myostatin.......

I don't know if rotating compounds would help overcome this. Although I heard this is only a problem for virgins.

 

[Standard Donkey]

Myostatin.......

I don't know if rotating compounds would help overcome this. Although I heard this is only a problem for virgins.

citation?

 

[Standard Donkey]

Just to clarify, an example would be swapping deca for tren is the idea of rotating gears within a cycle?

basically yes

 

[ctr10]

I think rotating could have some benefit, but then Little Guy has a good point also

 

[Standard Donkey]

I think rotating could have some benefit, but then Little Guy has a good point also

i would tend to agree with LittleGuy, logic would say that increasing the dose periodically would cause sustainable growth...

not switching from test/tren to test/deca in 10 week intervals..

 

[Standard Donkey]

id like more input on this

 

[theCaptn']

i would tend to agree with LittleGuy, logic would say that increasing the dose periodically would cause sustainable growth...

not switching from test/tren to test/deca in 10 week intervals..

Periodically cycling in short esters on top of long esters may work the same, but that's no real difference to throwing in an oral.

 

[slownsteady]

I think slowly increase dose of injec test and other oil is a good thing for this problem. Slowly

 

[heckler7]

Just to clarify, an example would be swapping deca for tren is the idea of rotating gears within a cycle?

we're talking about SD so probably more like Tren A with Tren E

 

[Goodskie]

U have to rotate to keep receptors fresh!



Also, Negged for saying steroids and not gears

 

[returnofthdragon]

I vote for increasing the doses. It makes no sense the myostatin getting confused by gear rotation. It's all the same to them.

 

[sofargone561]

I up the dose on oils that will be ran for a lone time
so for instance if im running a 20 week cycle around 10-12 weeks i up all the doses of the oils ive been running since day 1. as for orals i like to cycle then run then for a few weeks then drop them then run them again etc. exp var i run that at 100mg ed throughout the cycle

 

[theCaptn']

I vote for increasing the doses. It makes no sense the myostatin getting confused by gear rotation. It's all the same to them.

There is two sides to the situation. For example, if I don't restrict tren to 6-8 weeks I'm a wreck yet I can run deca indefinitely.

In this situation I would rotate my test:anabolic ratio and tweak my diet when swapping in tren for deca.

The result would be a recomp/hardening, as opposed to a pure wet bulk.

 

[Standard Donkey]

i think it may be best to run gearz for 8 weeks,

then up the doses after the 8 week period for another 8 weeks, and maybe run a low dose oral as well, like 25mg dbol ed


then cruise, then repeat with higher doses

 

[jshredz]

I agree with everyone about upping the dose.
But you can't discard the fact that we react different to different gears.
For example I could be running Test E and Deca or EQ then switch over to test prop, tren, mast. That switch makes me feel great and keeps gains consistent even while dieting.

Jshredz

 

[heavyiron]

Up the dose or add a stronger compund.

 

[Standard Donkey]

Up the dose or add a stronger compund.

or both >

 

[Digitalash]

Well maybe it has to do with different mechanisms of growth, ie some gears barely bind to androgen receptors and cause growth via other pathways, there may be many more that we're not really familiar with besides AR mediated anabolism. Also some compounds might cause an increase in water/glycogen that then plateaus, you switch to tren and put on some lbm, back to anadrol and put on some glycogen etc. and it seems like you are growing in phases when really its just the action of different compounds

 

[bearmode]

interesting