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I have been reading this thread for a long time.
I have just read through it from the first post to the last - at once.
Oaktown,
You very likely may have a chemical imbalance that is causing these symptoms.
I do believe that some, or most (not all), of your physical and mental problems are:
PSYCHOLOGICAL.
Whatever the reason, I hope you can get better and live a normal life without physical and mental pain.
I have just read through it from the first post to the last - at once.
Oaktown,
You very likely may have a chemical imbalance that is causing these symptoms.
I do believe that some, or most (not all), of your physical and mental problems are:
PSYCHOLOGICAL.
Whatever the reason, I hope you can get better and live a normal life without physical and mental pain.
To make it simple oaktown boy got bombards with alot stress from all angles at one time and body just said it had enough and just shut down, but he continued to push and it pushed back even harder. He is headed in the right direction and it will take time to recovery. He has several metabolic road blocks that have to be cleared before things start to rebalance. The mistake people think is that it begins in their head first, but alot of scientist believe are now believing that it begins in your gut and not in your brain. Serotionon is not produced in the brain its produced in from the gut and crossses over the blood brain barrier. If any of the building blocks (amino acids) are not there from proper digestion brought on from chemical, mental, physical trauma then serotonin as well as other neurotransmiters will not be created. You can not build a mansion with out cement it just does not work. I have been down his road many of time and have been to psychologist and they told me "i am handling my situaition very well and there was really nothing really under lying." It was just trying to find a dr that would look a little further into things instead of saying I am fine nothing wrong. I had 2 drs wanted me on paxil and I told them to go shove it up their ass. I know my body and I knew I was missing something but drugs were not going to solve the problem only used as a band aid because drs I had were lazy and did not know how to handle my case. They could have ran all the blood test in the world but they would never find what I had becuase no blood test could have picked it up. It was just a snow ball effet from a simple electrolyte imbalance leading in acidosis and total system shut down..All I need was little more potassium to counteract acid from the protein in my diet, but since people at work complained about me eating all the time I had to replace meals with shakes and that reduced nutrients severally. oatmeal/ whey has very little potassium and it was just enough to through me off. Athletes need 4-5 grams potassium a day I was getting 2-3 grams anding caffinr epherine on top cardio, training, over consuming water I was settting my self up for problems
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doctor is puttin me on sum zoloft for depression and he prescribed something for my axxiety
Use what is necessary to get you past this hump untill you rebalance things
he prescribed xanax for the anxiety
Hey Oaktownboy 
I'm no expert on this.. but I personally think alot of people here and doctors making your problem worse
I personally believe any illness we have, it can be treated on our own.. first it starts by being thankful of what we have
I hope your having a nice easter
I'm no expert on this.. but I personally think alot of people here and doctors making your problem worse
I personally believe any illness we have, it can be treated on our own.. first it starts by being thankful of what we have
I hope your having a nice easter
i wish it were as simple as that baby
I have been checking this thread regularly. HAN continues making comments that impress me. His scientific knowledge seems sounds as well as his own empirical evidence.
I have been suffering from similar problems actually. Fluctuating energy levels, constant hunger combined with digestive discomfort, anxiety, and I often feel cold. Working out gives me quite a boost, but that boost is terminating quicker and quicker.
Good luck to you Oaktown Boy, as well as anyone else struggling with health issues right now.
If you want to read more about the brain-gut axis/connection, I would suggest looking up the "enteric nervous system." It concerns me that there is so little discussion of how the health of our gut affects our health. For example, I have seen reports of schizophrenia being linked to celiac disease (gluten allergy).
Imagine a person no longer hearing 'the devil's demands' by simply avoiding the consumption of bread.
I have been suffering from similar problems actually. Fluctuating energy levels, constant hunger combined with digestive discomfort, anxiety, and I often feel cold. Working out gives me quite a boost, but that boost is terminating quicker and quicker.
Good luck to you Oaktown Boy, as well as anyone else struggling with health issues right now.
If you want to read more about the brain-gut axis/connection, I would suggest looking up the "enteric nervous system." It concerns me that there is so little discussion of how the health of our gut affects our health. For example, I have seen reports of schizophrenia being linked to celiac disease (gluten allergy).
Imagine a person no longer hearing 'the devil's demands' by simply avoiding the consumption of bread.
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Cogricks
They are same symtoms i expereinced !!! here are things I am doing right now that is making a major impact and some things to think about. As an athlete we put are bodies ar risk of running low on minerals. I dug up some research that should top athletes taking multivitamis and eating well still suffered from the big 3 Magnesium, zinc , b-6. If any one of these is low it will through your body into total chaos.
Zinc and Magnesium Deficiency Problems
Zinc and magnesium are critical for athletes, but deficiencies are prevalent, primarily because it is difficult to get the proper amounts???12 mg/day zinc for adults, 280 mg/day magnesium for women, 350 mg/day magnesium for men???through diet alone.1 USDA studies reveal that 68 percent of self-selected diets in the general population contain less than two-thirds of the RDA for zinc, 2 and 39 percent contain less than two-thirds of the RDA for magnesium.3
Although many foods contain zinc, magnesium, and vitamin B6 athletes rarely take in sufficient quantities. One reason may be that foods rich in these minerals???oysters and beef liver???are not diet staples.
Do athletes get sufficient zinc, magnesium, or vitamin B6 from their multiple vitamin/mineral supplements? In a study conducted at the department of physiology and applied nutrition at the Australian Institute of Sport, blood indicators of eight vitamins (A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C, E, and folate) and five minerals (calcium, copper, magnesium, phosphorus, and zinc) were measured in 86 athletes before and after a seven- to eight-month training period.4 During this time, half consumed a multivitamin/mineral supplement and a matched group took placebo. Afterwards, blood indicators of vitamins B1, B6, B12, and folate increased???but there were no effects on blood-mineral levels. These minerals may not have been absorbed because of competitive and antagonistic interactions. For example, zinc and magnesium are poorly absorbed when taken with calcium-containing foods or supplements. So why are combination calcium-magnesium supplements sold? Probably because they are both poorly absorbed and formulators are trying to increase their uptake by the body.
Research indicates that zinc deficiency in athletes can result in decreased blood levels of testosterone and IGF-1 (insulinlike growth factor), increased serum estrogen levels, and compromised androgen receptor activity.5 It is important to activate androgen receptors because they promote testosterone effectiveness.
Give you my scenerio
High protein diet with added sugar, not taking a multivitamin while eating a super clean diet did not matter. High protein diets with out added b-6 supplementation of 200-300 mgs a day will cause your body to run its supply low. When supplies of b-6 runs low this shuts down your stomach acid which you needed to assimultate magenesium and zinc into blood. If you go low in b-6 magnesium you willl experience anxiety, digestioin problems (meaning protein metabolisms comes to grinding halt) and then all that protein you are taking just lies undigested and is moved into the colon where it putrifies causing bacterial imbalances and infections. This infection then further cause nutrient malabsorption and lead to myriad of problems so you can see how the cycle begins when this continues for a long time you all other systems are affected and will leave drs basically throwing dart at board to what to treat first (symptoms not cause)
high protein - low b-6 - low stomach acid- mg, zinc mineral , amino acid deficeincy - putrification of gut - bad bacteria out way good - endocrine (testosterone , thyroid, adrenal malfunction )system stressed out - leave drs baffled and you going to dr to dr and not makng progress becuase all test are normal and you have not reached a diseased state !! Been there done this !!
here is what I suggest for you
1. magesium glycinate - albion patent NOTHING ELSE !! doctors best is cheapest
take 200-300 mgs 2-3 times a day with meals not with zinc or calcium becuase it interfers. This form of magesium will not cause diahreaad if it does then you are not deficienct
2. Add in 30 mgs zinc picolate no calcium binders before bed time
3. Since the process has begun it may be advisable to go with Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate which is active form of b-6 becuase if you are lacking zinc or magnesium then the conversion will not take place and you will be in a world of troulble
4. Find out potassium levels need to be @ 4,000 mgs plus for athetes add No salt to 2-3 of your feels as a safe guard or add in 1 99 mgs potassium gluconate pill with your meals...
5. Your diet may be too acidic and body may not be able the acid load from it and might be in a slight state of acidosis. Take ph urine and salvia first thing to see where it is to be safe
6. before bed it might be a good idea to get a relaxation tape and listen to it
7. also if working on computer all day long or late at night it depeltes your serotonin levels and can affeect melatonin levels resulting in restless sleep and elevated cortisol levels.
8. support digestion with pancreatin or digestive enzyme (super enzyme by twin lab the best !! ) just till body balances out
Are you taking any caffine
are you on high protein diet (above 300 grams a day)
are you under alot of stress (this depeletes b vitamins, magnesium and zinc as well)
are you starting to see the pattern and the vicious cycle and trust me this is just the beginning for many people. i am glad I experinced so that i can warn others so it does not happen to any one else. Even in my own clients I have made major changes to make their diets more health oriented because stress of today is not like it was years ago ....
I think the main thing you may lack is b-6 becuase with out b-6 magensium and zinc can not be metabolized and absorb into the cell
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B6 is a water-soluble vitamin that exists in three major chemical forms: pyridoxine, pyridoxal, and pyridoxamine. It performs a wide variety of functions in your body and is essential for your good health. For example, vitamin B6 is needed for more than 100 enzymes involved in protein metabolism. It is also essential for red blood cell metabolism. The nervous and immune systems need vitamin B6 to function efficiently, and it is also needed for the conversion of tryptophan (an amino acid) to niacin (a vitamin).
Hemoglobin within red blood cells carries oxygen to tissues. Your body needs vitamin B6 to make hemoglobin. Vitamin B6 also helps increase the amount of oxygen carried by hemoglobin. A vitamin B6 deficiency can result in a form of anemia that is similar to iron deficiency anemia.
Calories, protein, vitamins, and minerals are all important to your immune system because they promote the growth of white blood cells that directly fight infections. Because of its involvement in protein metabolism and cellular growth Vitamin B6 is important to the immune system. It helps maintain the health of lymphoid organs (thymus, spleen, and lymph nodes) that make your white blood cells. Animal studies show that a vitamin B6 deficiency can decrease your antibody production and suppress your immune response.
Vitamin B6 also helps maintain your blood glucose (sugar) within a normal range. When caloric intake is low your body needs vitamin B6 to help convert stored carbohydrate or other nutrients to glucose to maintain normal blood sugar levels. While a shortage of vitamin B6 will limit these functions, supplements of this vitamin do not enhance them in well-nourished individuals.
http://www.mgwater.com/index.shtml
http://www.ctds.info/zinc1.html
AS you can see zinc, magesium, b-6 are all used for aiding in depression and anxiety.
i had muscle spasms and eye ticks after adding in magensium they all went away in a day
One way you know you are low on b-6 is sensitivity to bright light, and also no dream recall in the morning
I am increasing b-6 till I can recall dreams then I will know I am at optimal dosage. As long s you use one I recommended there is no way you can OD (above 1,000 mgs a day for 2 years)
zinc you will have lack of sex drive and bad night vision
FYI magnesium reguates body temperature
see how everthing is connected !! just a slight deficiet is enough for an athlete to suffer and a normal person would not feel it at all
zinc effects thyroid, adrenals, testosterone, blood sugar level, neuotransmitters
magensium - adrenals, thyroid, testosterone, blood sugar level, neuotransmitters
b-6 - protein, carb, fat metabolism, needed to metabolize zinc and magesium,
needed for serotoin production.
Hope this helps
They are same symtoms i expereinced !!! here are things I am doing right now that is making a major impact and some things to think about. As an athlete we put are bodies ar risk of running low on minerals. I dug up some research that should top athletes taking multivitamis and eating well still suffered from the big 3 Magnesium, zinc , b-6. If any one of these is low it will through your body into total chaos.
Zinc and Magnesium Deficiency Problems
Zinc and magnesium are critical for athletes, but deficiencies are prevalent, primarily because it is difficult to get the proper amounts???12 mg/day zinc for adults, 280 mg/day magnesium for women, 350 mg/day magnesium for men???through diet alone.1 USDA studies reveal that 68 percent of self-selected diets in the general population contain less than two-thirds of the RDA for zinc, 2 and 39 percent contain less than two-thirds of the RDA for magnesium.3
Although many foods contain zinc, magnesium, and vitamin B6 athletes rarely take in sufficient quantities. One reason may be that foods rich in these minerals???oysters and beef liver???are not diet staples.
Do athletes get sufficient zinc, magnesium, or vitamin B6 from their multiple vitamin/mineral supplements? In a study conducted at the department of physiology and applied nutrition at the Australian Institute of Sport, blood indicators of eight vitamins (A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C, E, and folate) and five minerals (calcium, copper, magnesium, phosphorus, and zinc) were measured in 86 athletes before and after a seven- to eight-month training period.4 During this time, half consumed a multivitamin/mineral supplement and a matched group took placebo. Afterwards, blood indicators of vitamins B1, B6, B12, and folate increased???but there were no effects on blood-mineral levels. These minerals may not have been absorbed because of competitive and antagonistic interactions. For example, zinc and magnesium are poorly absorbed when taken with calcium-containing foods or supplements. So why are combination calcium-magnesium supplements sold? Probably because they are both poorly absorbed and formulators are trying to increase their uptake by the body.
Research indicates that zinc deficiency in athletes can result in decreased blood levels of testosterone and IGF-1 (insulinlike growth factor), increased serum estrogen levels, and compromised androgen receptor activity.5 It is important to activate androgen receptors because they promote testosterone effectiveness.
Give you my scenerio
High protein diet with added sugar, not taking a multivitamin while eating a super clean diet did not matter. High protein diets with out added b-6 supplementation of 200-300 mgs a day will cause your body to run its supply low. When supplies of b-6 runs low this shuts down your stomach acid which you needed to assimultate magenesium and zinc into blood. If you go low in b-6 magnesium you willl experience anxiety, digestioin problems (meaning protein metabolisms comes to grinding halt) and then all that protein you are taking just lies undigested and is moved into the colon where it putrifies causing bacterial imbalances and infections. This infection then further cause nutrient malabsorption and lead to myriad of problems so you can see how the cycle begins when this continues for a long time you all other systems are affected and will leave drs basically throwing dart at board to what to treat first (symptoms not cause)
high protein - low b-6 - low stomach acid- mg, zinc mineral , amino acid deficeincy - putrification of gut - bad bacteria out way good - endocrine (testosterone , thyroid, adrenal malfunction )system stressed out - leave drs baffled and you going to dr to dr and not makng progress becuase all test are normal and you have not reached a diseased state !! Been there done this !!
here is what I suggest for you
1. magesium glycinate - albion patent NOTHING ELSE !! doctors best is cheapest
take 200-300 mgs 2-3 times a day with meals not with zinc or calcium becuase it interfers. This form of magesium will not cause diahreaad if it does then you are not deficienct
2. Add in 30 mgs zinc picolate no calcium binders before bed time
3. Since the process has begun it may be advisable to go with Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate which is active form of b-6 becuase if you are lacking zinc or magnesium then the conversion will not take place and you will be in a world of troulble
4. Find out potassium levels need to be @ 4,000 mgs plus for athetes add No salt to 2-3 of your feels as a safe guard or add in 1 99 mgs potassium gluconate pill with your meals...
5. Your diet may be too acidic and body may not be able the acid load from it and might be in a slight state of acidosis. Take ph urine and salvia first thing to see where it is to be safe
6. before bed it might be a good idea to get a relaxation tape and listen to it
7. also if working on computer all day long or late at night it depeltes your serotonin levels and can affeect melatonin levels resulting in restless sleep and elevated cortisol levels.
8. support digestion with pancreatin or digestive enzyme (super enzyme by twin lab the best !! ) just till body balances out
Are you taking any caffine
are you on high protein diet (above 300 grams a day)
are you under alot of stress (this depeletes b vitamins, magnesium and zinc as well)
are you starting to see the pattern and the vicious cycle and trust me this is just the beginning for many people. i am glad I experinced so that i can warn others so it does not happen to any one else. Even in my own clients I have made major changes to make their diets more health oriented because stress of today is not like it was years ago ....
I think the main thing you may lack is b-6 becuase with out b-6 magensium and zinc can not be metabolized and absorb into the cell
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B6 is a water-soluble vitamin that exists in three major chemical forms: pyridoxine, pyridoxal, and pyridoxamine. It performs a wide variety of functions in your body and is essential for your good health. For example, vitamin B6 is needed for more than 100 enzymes involved in protein metabolism. It is also essential for red blood cell metabolism. The nervous and immune systems need vitamin B6 to function efficiently, and it is also needed for the conversion of tryptophan (an amino acid) to niacin (a vitamin).
Hemoglobin within red blood cells carries oxygen to tissues. Your body needs vitamin B6 to make hemoglobin. Vitamin B6 also helps increase the amount of oxygen carried by hemoglobin. A vitamin B6 deficiency can result in a form of anemia that is similar to iron deficiency anemia.
Calories, protein, vitamins, and minerals are all important to your immune system because they promote the growth of white blood cells that directly fight infections. Because of its involvement in protein metabolism and cellular growth Vitamin B6 is important to the immune system. It helps maintain the health of lymphoid organs (thymus, spleen, and lymph nodes) that make your white blood cells. Animal studies show that a vitamin B6 deficiency can decrease your antibody production and suppress your immune response.
Vitamin B6 also helps maintain your blood glucose (sugar) within a normal range. When caloric intake is low your body needs vitamin B6 to help convert stored carbohydrate or other nutrients to glucose to maintain normal blood sugar levels. While a shortage of vitamin B6 will limit these functions, supplements of this vitamin do not enhance them in well-nourished individuals.
http://www.mgwater.com/index.shtml
http://www.ctds.info/zinc1.html
AS you can see zinc, magesium, b-6 are all used for aiding in depression and anxiety.
i had muscle spasms and eye ticks after adding in magensium they all went away in a day
One way you know you are low on b-6 is sensitivity to bright light, and also no dream recall in the morning
I am increasing b-6 till I can recall dreams then I will know I am at optimal dosage. As long s you use one I recommended there is no way you can OD (above 1,000 mgs a day for 2 years)
zinc you will have lack of sex drive and bad night vision
FYI magnesium reguates body temperature
see how everthing is connected !! just a slight deficiet is enough for an athlete to suffer and a normal person would not feel it at all
zinc effects thyroid, adrenals, testosterone, blood sugar level, neuotransmitters
magensium - adrenals, thyroid, testosterone, blood sugar level, neuotransmitters
b-6 - protein, carb, fat metabolism, needed to metabolize zinc and magesium,
needed for serotoin production.
Hope this helps
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detox doctor thinks i have stomach ulcers and has prescribed nexium...went to thyroid dr yesterday...said detox doctor is onto something and said thyroid is not root of problem..refilled my current prescription of 15 mgs...i will be taking more blood tests for Lyme disease and a variety of other diseases and will continue the IV's and intramuscular shots
why didn't asshole Gi specialist find this when you went first time !!
I agree it had been digestive track from the start resulting in casacade of events, but do what drs are telling you.
I agree it had been digestive track from the start resulting in casacade of events, but do what drs are telling you.
Great advice, HAN. You put a lot of time into that message and it is appreciated!
I will look into getting the zinc picolinate (30 mg.), magnesium glycinate (200-300mg), and pyridoxal-5-phosphate (200-300mg) for daily supplementation. I assume those are all available at the health food store.
I actually took magnesium glycinate for a while! It helped with digestive difficulties, but I don't know about mood and attention.
Avoiding caffeine will be extremely difficult. I will look at cutting back and avoiding it after 2PM.
Avoiding the computer late at night...another challenge, but doable.
Say, what kind of tests do you suggest I ask for in order to accurate measure my levels of these nutrients? In particular, potassium, since you recommended I get that tested.
Best!
I will look into getting the zinc picolinate (30 mg.), magnesium glycinate (200-300mg), and pyridoxal-5-phosphate (200-300mg) for daily supplementation. I assume those are all available at the health food store.
I actually took magnesium glycinate for a while! It helped with digestive difficulties, but I don't know about mood and attention.
Avoiding caffeine will be extremely difficult. I will look at cutting back and avoiding it after 2PM.
Avoiding the computer late at night...another challenge, but doable.
Say, what kind of tests do you suggest I ask for in order to accurate measure my levels of these nutrients? In particular, potassium, since you recommended I get that tested.
Best!
hardasnails1973 said:
simple solution to caffine is to switch over to green tea or better add in 1000 mgs of tyrosine it will wake you up with out the jitters plus it will help stimulate thyroid as well as aid in adrenal function. According to many studies (bandaid women can back me up here) they are saying athletes require double the amount of magesium then RDA. with magnesium if you take too much then you get diahrea but with glycinate that should not happen at all. take the active b-6 with magesium it wil work synergistically and do not take mag same time calcium or zinc they interfer.
Test for minerals and vitamin need to be run for active form
RBC potassium, magnesium zinc, active for b-6,
but again your body is your guide. if you body is low it will crave certain foods.
Why do women crave chocolate on peroids. it wants the magesium to help balance hormones out as well as blood sugar. Body will give you signals we just have to be co herent of them.
with potassium it may be advisiable to find out your income your self and then add either no salt on a few meals or add in some dulse 1-2 meals to increase it.
unless you have a kidney problem more potassium the better especially with athletes
(6,000 mgs a day plus we need) but you also need to watch body does not get to acidic from protein and grains so veggies will balance things out.
good ratio is 1:4-5 na to k. our ancestors ate ratio of 1:6 and never had near heart problems we have to day. If its not broke don't fix it
My personal opinoin bodybuilders diets are too acidic and they are not taking enough alkalizing nutrients to counteract it. Potassium is known as the great alkalizer. Atkins diet people loose calium becuase the body pulls calcium from bones to neutralize the acid from the protein and fat. plus people on high fat diets are more prone to magnesium deficiency becuase fat blocks magesium from being absorbed in the body. if you are indoors alot being winter time I know this sounds crazy but people with lack of sunlight will cause major distruptions in calcium metabolism and will make body highly acidic causing major anxiety and digestion problems.
www.lef.org its a free site
Test for minerals and vitamin need to be run for active form
RBC potassium, magnesium zinc, active for b-6,
but again your body is your guide. if you body is low it will crave certain foods.
Why do women crave chocolate on peroids. it wants the magesium to help balance hormones out as well as blood sugar. Body will give you signals we just have to be co herent of them.
with potassium it may be advisiable to find out your income your self and then add either no salt on a few meals or add in some dulse 1-2 meals to increase it.
unless you have a kidney problem more potassium the better especially with athletes
(6,000 mgs a day plus we need) but you also need to watch body does not get to acidic from protein and grains so veggies will balance things out.
good ratio is 1:4-5 na to k. our ancestors ate ratio of 1:6 and never had near heart problems we have to day. If its not broke don't fix it
My personal opinoin bodybuilders diets are too acidic and they are not taking enough alkalizing nutrients to counteract it. Potassium is known as the great alkalizer. Atkins diet people loose calium becuase the body pulls calcium from bones to neutralize the acid from the protein and fat. plus people on high fat diets are more prone to magnesium deficiency becuase fat blocks magesium from being absorbed in the body. if you are indoors alot being winter time I know this sounds crazy but people with lack of sunlight will cause major distruptions in calcium metabolism and will make body highly acidic causing major anxiety and digestion problems.
www.lef.org its a free site
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by this friday i will know if i have Lyme's or a few other diseases
getting an colonoscopy...
Hey Oak...........sorry to read your still having problems, I think Zoloft may not be the best thing for you as it will make you more anxious, thus the reason he has prescribed you an anxiety med......do some research on celexa, paxil or effexor, not effexor xr, that will make you anxious as well, it has a lift in it, if you have stomach ulsers, any meds will irritate it, good luck, I'm going to re-read this thread, I've had many health issues, at least 30 blood test and finally found out what was wrong, which was something I had been diagnosed with 13 yrs ago........also any pain meds you may be taken can alter your blood test, make sure you don't take anything at least 24 hrs before the blood work, in '02 they said I had Lupus but it was a false positive test due to the celebrex I was taken, just a thought, take care........Katieoaktownboy said:
Justin just got my labs back
my copper levels are DANGEROUSLY LOW and also vitamin D that is why my thryoid medicine is not working becuase in order for thyroid medicine to work your need to have iron metabolised and with out copper it will not metabolize and there for you will get all the wonderful symptoms of anemia which I have been having for so long but it was not from iron it is from lack of copper. So it might be advisible to have serum copper,ceruoplasm, hdl, white blood cells , igf-1 if any of these levels are low then you know what the cause it. low copper can set off autoimmuine disases !! Plus eating alot of fruit can lower your levels as well as taking huge amounts of zinc thats why I said go easy on the zinc !!
my copper levels are DANGEROUSLY LOW and also vitamin D that is why my thryoid medicine is not working becuase in order for thyroid medicine to work your need to have iron metabolised and with out copper it will not metabolize and there for you will get all the wonderful symptoms of anemia which I have been having for so long but it was not from iron it is from lack of copper. So it might be advisible to have serum copper,ceruoplasm, hdl, white blood cells , igf-1 if any of these levels are low then you know what the cause it. low copper can set off autoimmuine disases !! Plus eating alot of fruit can lower your levels as well as taking huge amounts of zinc thats why I said go easy on the zinc !!
might be my appendix...will run some tests at hospital tomorrow to determine if that is the case
They need to get a comprehensive blood work of EVERYTHING so they can look for abnormalities. Like me it was something new each day until the tests are backing up the cause. i knew it was a mineral deficiency but I almost had to die to find which one..
appendix is fine..they recommended to drink more water and increase fiber intake to remove the large quantity of fecal matter...i am tryin to get a colonoscopy next week for my lower GI..
thx sara
if it is hormonal justing fiber is going to clogg you even worse !! try it in small quantities then increasing it
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Damn bro i cant imagine what you are going threw physically and mentally. Just try and stay positive im sure things will work out for ya, goodluck with everything and stay strong.
doctor says i have Lyme disease along with large amounts of other harmful bacteria in my system..
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So do you still have all those other problems too...like the thyroid problem?? Why did they not test for Lyme Disease earlier? What other harmful Bacterias and what are they caused from? Are you on strong antibiotics?
I hope now that you have this diagnosis everything will get better.
I hope now that you have this diagnosis everything will get better.
