short vs long cycles

[pengers84]

What do you think the difference would be in a first cycle, in terms of gains/side effects, between test e @ 250mg for 12 weeks and test e @500mg for 6 weeks? Im not considering doing either in the immediate future, im just curious.

 

[GFR]

What do you think the difference would be in a first cycle, in terms of gains/side effects, between test e @ 250mg for 12 weeks and test e @500mg for 6 weeks? Im not considering doing either in the immediate future, im just curious.

250mg is a waste of time, I would do 375mg a week for 8 weeks

 

[Tough Old Man]

250mg is a waste of time, I would do 375mg a week for 8 weeks

And I would do a min of 500 mgs for 8-10 weeks. Preferably 10

 

[GFR]

And I would do a min of 500 mgs for 8-10 weeks. Preferably 10

So would I but it looks like he only has enough for a 6 or 10 week cycle so I recomended doing 8 at a compromioised dose of 375, it is a bit low, but enough for a first time user to make good gains with no sides.

 

[Du]

So would I but it looks like he only has enough for a 6 or 10 week cycle so I recomended doing 8 at a compromioised dose of 375, it is a bit low, but enough for a first time user to make good gains with no sides.

Buy more. If youre going to do it, do it right.

 

[pengers84]

I dont have any at the moment. I'm going to remain natural for a while yet. At the moment my first cycle will either be 4-500mg test e for 10 weeks or 250mg test e/500mg eq.

 

[GFR]

Buy more. If youre going to do it, do it right.

375mg is 3-4x higher than your natural test production....more than enough to grow on a first cycle........500mg is not some magic number.

 

[Pirate!]

I'd go with prop if doing an 8 weeks cycle. 100 mg EOD is all you need. You won't gain as much water weight on prop. I think that 500 mg of test/wk is more than most need for their first cycle.

 

[Tha Don]

375mg is 3-4x higher than your natural test production....more than enough to grow on a first cycle........500mg is not some magic number.

ditto, considering the average male produces around 50mg of test per week, 375mg is plenty for a first timer IMHO

 

[heavylifting]

^

 

[Cedrick123]

"I am not considering doing either in the immediate future, just curious"

hahaha

What a funny guy!!!

 

[Digitalash]

I'm more interested in the difference between 10/15/20 weeks, thinking of extending my 10 weeker and not sure how long would be safe(reasonably), and how much androgen receptor downregulation would come into play?

 

[flipswitch]

That all depends on age and goals. If you're young and a first timer, anywhere between 300-500mg of test overall per week is ample so long as training and diet are good. For the older male, same dosage is ample for maintenance and cruising - again diet and training play a big role and what the goals are. There's more to figuring good starting dose or subsequent cycle doses beyond just limitations of finances or availability. Test enth at 250mg/week is a little on the low side and I know women on 250mg/week of test cyp for cancer prevention and HRT. Not saying it's too low for a young male to see results, but better to know what you're dealing with as far as current test levels comparative to age and what the goals are. Have you had your hormone levels checked? I'd rather go with the 6 week cycle of test e at 500mg per week and pin it at least twice a week to keep levels stable - as long as lipid values are good, cholesterol, BP and bloodwork come back somewhat normal - that should go without saying for anyone actually.

 

[GMO]

What's up with all the resurrected threads from years ago? I almost wasted my time answering the OP's question. Now I'm wasting time typing this out...WTF???

 

[BigBird]

What's up with all the resurrected threads from years ago? I almost wasted my time answering the OP's question. Now I'm wasting time typing this out...WTF???

I was thinking the same thing so I negged that effing dick "heavylifter" who keeps posting his psychobabble.