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should unhealthy foods be outlawed/regulated??

What to do about fast food joints?

  • set portion control (ie, no more mega size meals)

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • set health restrictions (ie, no trans fats, limit the amount of fat and calories allowed in a servin

    Votes: 8 15.4%
  • Both portion control and health control

    Votes: 9 17.3%
  • Obliterate fast food completely, theres no need for it

    Votes: 7 13.5%
  • nothing, keep the fast food coming.

    Votes: 27 51.9%

  • Total voters
    52
BigDyl said:
Super Size Me = Good Movie.
saw this on channel 4 the other day, all i can say is 'shocking!' i hate fast-food even more now, and will never touch it again as long as i live, and i think people that eat that crap are total suckers! (most of them know its not good for them, they still eat it though!) i didn't know it was actually proven to be 'addictive' - i knew i used to totally love the crap when i was a youngster even though it make me feel sick afterwards, damm mum used to buy me 2 large meals a time! :(

anyways the thing that really got me from watching that film is even the healthy stuff is ridiculously unheathly, you'd think one of these grilled chicken salads wouldn't be too bad, WRONG, they have more sugar in them than a large milkshake and like twice the fat content of a big mac (okay maybe not that much, i can't remember exactly how much, but they are cetainly one of the worst choices you can make at mcdonalds)
 
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I think our lives are regulated enough already
 
young d said:
saw this on channel 4 the other day, all i can say is 'shocking!' i hate fast-food even more now, and will never touch it again as long as i live, and i think people that eat that crap are total suckers! (most of them know its not good for them, they still eat it though!) i didn't know it was actually proven to be 'addictive' - i knew i used to totally love the crap when i was a youngster even though it make me feel sick afterwards, damm mum used to buy me 2 large meals a time! :(

anyways the thing that really got me from watching that film is even the healthy stuff is ridiculously unheathly, you'd think one of these grilled chicken salads wouldn't be too bad, WRONG, they have more sugar in them than a large milkshake and like twice the fat content of a big mac (okay maybe not that much, i can't remember exactly how much, but they are cetainly one of the worst choices you can make at mcdonalds)


its definately addicting, why do you think people have sugar cravings?? all the fat and sugar put into their foods makes it that way.
 
LAM said:
I don't think the fast food industry should be regulated. anybody with an IQ over 70 should know that fast food is unhealthy and shouldn't be consumed on a regular basis. while I do feel sorry for the children of lazy stupid parents who constantly feed them this garbage. I don't think that regulation but education is the solution to this obesity "epidemic".

right, who is going to protect all of the children of stupid ignorant parents that feed their kids the fast food? and it is only getting worse!
 
Robert DiMaggio said:
right, who is going to protect all of the children of stupid ignorant parents that feed their kids the fast food? and it is only getting worse!


exactly.

and actually in an interview done concerning the health of the new enormous omelet sandwhich, burger king representatives acknowledged that it wasn't very healthy and was target at the younger teenage crowd whose metabolism and bodies could "handle it". but theres nothing on a menu that a persons body could handle every day, or every other day for that matter. but people do it anyway. im sure those commercials with "the king" at the guys window make a few little kids whine to their parents that they want the sandwhich too.
 
grant said:
I think our lives are regulated enough already
This is what no one understands. Absolutely you should be able to eat at Mcdonalds if you want. Im not for regulating you. Im for regulating McDonalds.
See thats not that hard is it?
 
Laissez-faire--

But no one is forcing you to eat at McDonalds
 
grant said:
Laissez-faire--

But no one is forcing you to eat at McDonalds
Thats not the point. What harm could be done in forcing them to make their food unpoiseness? And as has been brought up 67 times, children are eating it becuase their parents buy it for them everyday. Adults also choose to eat this shit everyday. They get fat. They get sick. They get diseases. We pay to fight their diseases. We pay in the billions. Why not do something about it? It will never be a health food joint. Fast food will never be considered optimal nutrition, but as ive said, unpoisoness would be a start. Tell me why you would be against the FDA forcing them to make their food a little better? That makes no sense.

No ones forcing anyone to smoke crack. No ones forcing anyone to murder anyone. Saying that fast food should remain as unhealthy as it is becuase no one is forcing me to eat it doesnt make a lot of sense.
 
njc said:
Thats not the point. What harm could be done in forcing them to make their food unpoiseness? And as has been brought up 67 times, children are eating it becuase their parents buy it for them everyday. Adults also choose to eat this shit everyday. They get fat. They get sick. They get diseases. We pay to fight their diseases. We pay in the billions. Why not do something about it? It will never be a health food joint. Fast food will never be considered optimal nutrition, but as ive said, unpoisoness would be a start. Tell me why you would be against the FDA forcing them to make their food a little better? That makes no sense.

No ones forcing anyone to smoke crack. No ones forcing anyone to murder anyone. Saying that fast food should remain as unhealthy as it is becuase no one is forcing me to eat it doesnt make a lot of sense.

you have a point..

is it right that millions of kids over the globe are addicted to life threatening fast-food? IMO hell no!

its starting to become a major health issue, its going to have a serious long-term negative impact on society (well.. it already dose), there are thousands of depressed kids overweight because there jackass parents didn't feed them a balanced diet, and instead brought them up on high sugar/sat. fat foods, something needs to be done about it

the question is what?.... regulation? legislation? internalising the external health costs of the fast food? spend money educating and advertising against fast-food? subsidising 'healthier' fast food businesses so they can offer alternatives to McDonalds n' co.?

none of those economically efficient means of takling the situation IMO, i really can't see how the gov. can intervene in the industry without causing huge controversy, i feel the best way is through better education, the same way that gov is anti-drugs and smoking, but as we know this is not effective

maybe taxing fast food? and use the tax money to subsidise healthier fast food chains (which meet gov food standards n' all that crap), and also come out with anti fast-food campaigns and better education on the subject? don't know if it would work or not, and how could you tax mcdonalds without taxing bugers from the supermarket?

i could go on and probably write a damm essay on this... its such a debatable subject, one that dosen't really concern me anymore as i know to avoid all fast-food, but for those who lack the knowledge that we all do its very sad, just need to hope there will be a healthy eating revolution or something?? who knows! i can't see things changing anytime soon
 
njc said:
No ones forcing anyone to smoke crack. No ones forcing anyone to murder anyone.
I was forced to kill someone once...I was trying to make him smoke crack and he wouldn't...Then I had a McNugget, and everything seemed OK!
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grant said:
Laissez-faire--

But no one is forcing you to eat at McDonalds


yeah, no one forced kids born with crack and meth addiction to do use those drugs either... it was their parents choice, just like its the parents choice to feed their kids fast food and make them unhealthy with it. sure lets let the stupid kill off the next generation too right?
 
OK, let's remain on track here though, we're not talking of murdering, crack or meth which are already illegal.



One could also argue that it's not necessarily JUST fast food that is "poisoning" the population. Does McDonald's really poison someone?? How much of McDonald's does one have to consume in order to be poisoned? Is it an addictive substance?? I don't think there any black and white answers to those question as there are with the acts of murder and substance abuse.



There are number of different factors that cause the large percentages of obesity we see in our American population today. For instance, what about just plain laziness and physical inactivity. Instead of making life easy for stupid people by having the government regulate the fast food industry by restricting it, educate the public against it by creating an intelligent population that understand the risks involved in consuming that type of food. The population chooses not to buy McDonald's, it goes out of business and we don't have the problem anymore. Just a hypothetical.
 
Kracin said:
they will have to put health restrictions on fast food restaraurants and such, ie only able to sell a certain amount to a single person within a certain amount of time. portion control on the sizes of their meals, and the ingredients used (no trans fats etc etc).
I'm sorry, but that is the the most stupid thing I have heard. I can't even begin to explain how rediculous that is.
They will start "carding" people now: "I'm sorry sir, I'll have to see your weight before you can super-size your meal, can you please step up onto the scale, you will have to be under 200lbs to super-size. I'm sorry sir, it's the law now."
:rolleyes:
 
vegman said:
I'm sorry, but that is the the most stupid thing I have heard. I can't even begin to explain how rediculous that is.
They will start "carding" people now: "I'm sorry sir, I'll have to see your weight before you can super-size your meal, can you please step up onto the scale, you will have to be under 200lbs to super-size. I'm sorry sir, it's the law now."
:rolleyes:

think less of regulating people, and more of regulating the food distributers. it wouldnt really work to limit people to how much they could buy, it would have to be more along the lines of the portion control in the meals they sell, and the amount of fats and such in the meals. nothing is controlled by telling a person they cant buy a certain amount of it (obviously people can buy 20 cases of cigarettes if they want), but controlling the health aspect of it and controlling the amount they are allowed to put into a meal for a single person would defintaely be a step forward in my opinion.

but then again limiting how often a person can go to a fast food place wouldnt be a bad idea either, some people need to get a clue and go eat something good for them some time.
 
grant said:
OK, let's remain on track here though, we're not talking of murdering, crack or meth which are already illegal.



One could also argue that it's not necessarily JUST fast food that is "poisoning" the population. Does McDonald's really poison someone?? How much of McDonald's does one have to consume in order to be poisoned? Is it an addictive substance?? I don't think there any black and white answers to those question as there are with the acts of murder and substance abuse.



There are number of different factors that cause the large percentages of obesity we see in our American population today. For instance, what about just plain laziness and physical inactivity. Instead of making life easy for stupid people by having the government regulate the fast food industry by restricting it, educate the public against it by creating an intelligent population that understand the risks involved in consuming that type of food. The population chooses not to buy McDonald's, it goes out of business and we don't have the problem anymore. Just a hypothetical.
Mcdonalds is addictive. Research it or read one of my earlier threads. And just becuase fast food isnt the "only problem" does that mean dont do anything about it? Of course people need educated more. Lets do it. That doesnt mean fast food cant be regulated as well. Does it? Fast food is POISONING our nation. Did you see what it did to the guy in super-size me? Now people always argue saying, " Well he ate it 3 times a day, no one does that". Thats not the point, he point is that any food that is even close to being capable of doing that to your body is downright rotten.

How bout we educate the public and regulate fast-food. Again you really havent given me a reason why you would have a problem with McDonalds being forced to buy better quality products. Thats all Im for. Why would you be against that?
 
Kracin said:
think less of regulating people, and more of regulating the food distributers. it wouldnt really work to limit people to how much they could buy, it would have to be more along the lines of the portion control in the meals they sell, and the amount of fats and such in the meals. nothing is controlled by telling a person they cant buy a certain amount of it (obviously people can buy 20 cases of cigarettes if they want), but controlling the health aspect of it and controlling the amount they are allowed to put into a meal for a single person would defintaely be a step forward in my opinion.

but then again limiting how often a person can go to a fast food place wouldnt be a bad idea either, some people need to get a clue and go eat something good for them some time.
Yea, I think it starts with education. Like the anti-cig commercials, there should be anti-crap-food commercials
 
Kracin said:
not everyone....rephrase that to say any adult can change it, any child dependent on food from an adult that makes bad choices is cought in the middle and thats the only reason i would support any restrictions.
mybad thats what i meant.
 
This is ridiculous. I don't know of any parents throughout my entire life that would have us eat fast food for its convenience on a daily basis. Not one. There is absolutely positively no way that any regulations should be put on fast food or any food for that matter.
 
soxmuscle said:
This is ridiculous. I don't know of any parents throughout my entire life that would have us eat fast food for its convenience on a daily basis. Not one. There is absolutely positively no way that any regulations should be put on fast food or any food for that matter.
There are hundreds of regulations set on all sorts of foods by multiple organizations, some save your life. So with that being said we can observe that for them to set so many rules and standards while allowing garbage food to be served is a complete absurdity. No one can provide me with a logical reason why it shouldnt be.
 
soxmuscle said:
This is ridiculous. I don't know of any parents throughout my entire life that would have us eat fast food for its convenience on a daily basis. Not one.

Umm.. I know at least one pair of parents who would: mine. Both my parents worked full time and my older brother and I stayed home for the summer in 6th and 7th grade, so my dad would come home for lunch breaks and buy us McDonald's value meals virtually every single day. Back then I loved it too because McDonald's was good to me back then.
 
soxmuscle said:
This is ridiculous. I don't know of any parents throughout my entire life that would have us eat fast food for its convenience on a daily basis. Not one. There is absolutely positively no way that any regulations should be put on fast food or any food for that matter.


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