skim milk

[P-funk]

I think that it's a good idea that foods that I tend to eat an access amount (peanut butter is a great example), I should not bring into the house at all.

Going a little off the subject though, can you answer this question: why does one need fats in their diet, besides omega 3's? What does fat do to one that is trying to loose body fat? I consume fish oil pills and olive oil (through cooking).

I agree. I don't purchase trigger foods because I know I can't help it. If I have something that I really like, I will go on a weekend and get a small amount of it and eat it all instead of buying a big bag and trying to be moderate with it.

Fat serves a lot of purposes in our bodies. Hormones are synthesized from fat, they help to protect cells, they offer us the highest caloric content per gram giving us a lot of fuel in a small amount. You can't just omit fats or only eat one type of fat. It would be like me saying...."why do i have to eat any other vegetable besides lettuce."

Olive oil is a monounsaturated fatty acid.

 

[zonaguy03]

I agree. I don't purchase trigger foods because I know I can't help it. If I have something that I really like, I will go on a weekend and get a small amount of it and eat it all instead of buying a big bag and trying to be moderate with it.

Fat serves a lot of purposes in our bodies. Hormones are synthesized from fat, they help to protect cells, they offer us the highest caloric content per gram giving us a lot of fuel in a small amount. You can't just omit fats or only eat one type of fat. It would be like me saying...."why do i have to eat any other vegetable besides lettuce."

Olive oil is a monounsaturated fatty acid.

Reading what everyone has said on here, I have gotten the idea that any type of saturated and trans fat is terrible, so when I go and look at labels, I make decisions based on if there is saturated and that trans fat along with looking at the ingredients: look to stay away from the fructose corn syrup and any syrup.

 

[Valias]

Have you read about the hormones in milk and the high estrogen effects?

Oh dear.

 

[P-funk]

Reading what everyone has said on here, I have gotten the idea that any type of saturated and trans fat is terrible, so when I go and look at labels, I make decisions based on if there is saturated and that trans fat along with looking at the ingredients: look to stay away from the fructose corn syrup and any syrup.

some saturated fat is not bad in your diet. if that even has a large impact on your overal cholesterol levels has yet to really be seen anyway (save for a genetic predisposition).

Trans Fat are naturally occuring in animal meats (like beef), like conjugated linoleic acid. However, what you may be referring to is partially hydrogenated oils which don't appear to serve any purpose to a persons health and some claim that they can lead to different forms of cancers.


high fructose corn syrup and other syrups are just sugar (added calories and crap you probably don't need).

 

[zonaguy03]

some saturated fat is not bad in your diet. if that even has a large impact on your overal cholesterol levels has yet to really be seen anyway (save for a genetic predisposition).

Trans Fat are naturally occuring in animal meats (like beef), like conjugated linoleic acid. However, what you may be referring to is partially hydrogenated oils which don't appear to serve any purpose to a persons health and some claim that they can lead to different forms of cancers.


high fructose corn syrup and other syrups are just sugar (added calories and crap you probably don't need).

I guess I had a mental picture that if you were consuming saturated fats, you would more likely gain/maintain your body fat% than trying to lose any body fat.

I like to buy the roasted "ready made" chicken from albertsons and peal off the skin and just eat the white meat. Is that good as a protein source or do they add unwanted shit in there?

 

[soxmuscle]

I love Milk.

Freakin' Jodi always ruining my perception of things. I can't wait until carrots have some freak hormone in them that makes your penis fall off.

 

[soxmuscle]

^ I'm completely joking. Thanks for the help. rXTL free skim milk it is!

 

[fufu]

arnt u the 1 that posted how good skim milk is PWO?
And concenring rbst..Its been proven to b completly safe.. Aint nuttin wrong with milk.. If its the sugar ur worried about ur pretty hypocritical considering that ALL carbs turn to sugar in ur blood.

No he didn't!

Yes, all carbs eventually turn to glucose. But it is the regulation of that process in which the glucose meets its end that is important. When you consume the sugar in milk, lactose, it is nearly in the same chemical structure of glucose so it passes through the GI quickly and is ready to enter the blood. This rapid entry into the blood means the body requires an immedient and potentionally large amount of insulin to be secreted from the pancreas to have the glucose transported into muscle tissue or adipose tissue to be stored. When insulin is secreted in large sudden amounts habitually, it can lead to a resitance of the hormone. This aquired resistance can progressivly turn into full blown rejection. This is where you meet Mr. Diabetes the II, he will change your life forever if he decides to shelter in your body from irresponsible and excessive cosumption of sugar and other like "simple" carbohydrates.

That is your endocrine physiology lesson for the day! Remember, things aren't as simple as they seem. It is safe to say 9 glasses of milk is too much.

 

[Zinthar]

No he didn't!

Yes, all carbs eventually turn to glucose. But it is the regulation of that process in which the glucose meets its end that is important. When you consume the sugar in milk, lactose, it is nearly in the same chemical structure of glucose so it passes through the GI quickly and is ready to enter the blood. This rapid entry into the blood means the body requires an immedient and potentionally large amount of insulin to be secreted from the pancreas to have the glucose transported into muscle tissue or adipose tissue to be stored. When insulin is secreted in large sudden amounts habitually, it can lead to a resitance of the hormone. This aquired resistance can progressivly turn into full blown rejection. This is where you meet Mr. Diabetes the II, he will change your life forever if he decides to shelter in your body from irresponsible and excessive cosumption of sugar and other like "simple" carbohydrates.

That is your endocrine physiology lesson for the day! Remember, things aren't as simple as they seem. It is safe to say 9 glasses of milk is too much.

Wouldn't that insulin response from the sugar in milk actually be somewhat helpful strictly in PWO shakes then?

I can't imagine you'd be killing yourself (inducing type II diabetes) if you were consuming a max of 20g of high-GI carbs daily, right??

 

[fufu]

Wouldn't that insulin response from the sugar in milk actually be somewhat helpful strictly in PWO shakes then?

Yes, that is true. A controlled and timed secretion of insulin can be used to benefit the muscle tissue through quick nutrient transport after a workout, which is prime time for such a process. That is a very popular concept.

I can't imagine you'd be killing yourself (inducing type II diabetes) if you were consuming a max of 20g of high-GI carbs daily, right??

There are too many factor's to answer that definitively(most important factor being genetics), but generally that should be definitely be fine for your average person. It is when things are carried into excessive in which they start to degrade the body. Being aware of what you eat is huge when trying to protect yourself from such a disease.

There is some statistic I heard, not sure of it's validity, but it said that within a generation 1 in 3 people will have diabetes if things continue the way they do.

 

[Jodi]

arnt u the 1 that posted how good skim milk is PWO?
And concenring rbst..Its been proven to b completly safe.. Aint nuttin wrong with milk.. If its the sugar ur worried about ur pretty hypocritical considering that ALL carbs turn to sugar in ur blood.

You got to fucking kidding me. First of it's been proven by the company that MAKES rBST. They are biased. Of course they are going to say it's safe. No big fat DOH on that one.

Second of all, yes, 1/2-1 C. organic skim milk pwo is good. Read that.........1/2-1 Cup ORGANIC SKIM MILK.

 

[Jodi]

GI is garbage. GI doesn't mean shit. You need to compare GI to GL to even make it remotely worthwhile.

 

[sensamilia]

Yes, that is true. A controlled and timed secretion of insulin can be used to benefit the muscle tissue through quick nutrient transport after a workout, which is prime time for such a process. That is a very popular concept.



There are too many factor's to answer that definitively(most important factor being genetics), but generally that should be definitely be fine for your average person. It is when things are carried into excessive in which they start to degrade the body. Being aware of what you eat is huge when trying to protect yourself from such a disease.

There is some statistic I heard, not sure of it's validity, but it said that within a generation 1 in 3 people will have diabetes if things continue the way they do.

milk has a very low gi rating..

 

[Jodi]

milk has a very low gi rating..

Again

GI is garbage. GI doesn't mean shit. You need to compare GI to GL to even make it remotely worthwhile.

 

[P-funk]

slowly turning into the worst thread ever.

 

[chico1st]

oh man i have two cups after working out, which i now think is too much, and im cutting

i also have a normal PWO shake (milk + protien powder) after cardio... is that not allowed?

 

[AKIRA]

No offence to you Akira, but I will use your example here cause it applies to many people including myself sometimes.

It amazes me how many people shrug off potential Health side effects in favour of convenience. We are only given one life, and yes the body is pretty good at maintaining its health. But why push your luck?

I was really asking Jodi cuz I have never really know the reasons behind why one would choose organic over...regular?

Ill have to research "rbst" to see what it is cuz I sure as hell dont know. Post links, Ill surely read.

I drink milk like its water. And I have since birth, so Id say its important to know.

I wonder if extremity should be balanced here..

 

[AKIRA]

Am I understanding that if I drink Skim Milk (regular), Ill die or live a horrible fitness filled life?

 

[fufu]

 

[MCx2]

Seriously. Nobody knows what the hell you're talking about AKIRA.

 

[zonaguy03]

I'm sorry I posted this thread...just thought it would be interesting to see how many people actually drank a glass of milk...I see a lot of stress and anger. This is the shit that takes years off people's lives. Don't waste your life over milk n cookies

 

[Uthinkso]

Am I understanding that if I drink Skim Milk (regular), Ill die or live a horrible fitness filled life?

Obviously not just gauging off what you've already achieved.

I'll go ahead and get crucified for this one, but I need to speak my mind here. Often times I see these threads become very black and white, there are no exception to the rules what so ever. If you break the rules you will immediately gain 50lbs and develop diabetes or some other terrible disease. Its Milk people, skim at that, organic or otherwise. If your using a cup of skim in your shake its not going to kill you. Hell if your bulking it may be to your aid to get away from the skim, but thats another point all together.

The small amount you could be damaging your potential outcome by drinking the milk, versus without isn't worth the grief. Its not like your at 6% or 16% body fat from drinking a glass of milk a day. Lets lighten up a little.

...and yes P now this is officially the worst thread in IM history.

 

[MCx2]

Obviously not just gauging off what you've already achieved.

I'll go ahead and get crucified for this one, but I need to speak my mind here. Often times I see these threads become very black and white, there are no exception to the rules what so ever. If you break the rules you will immediately gain 50lbs and develop diabetes or some other terrible disease. Its Milk people, skim at that, organic or otherwise. If your using a cup of skim in your shake its not going to kill you. Hell if your bulking it may be to your aid to get away from the skim, but thats another point all together.

The small amount you could be damaging your potential outcome by drinking the milk, versus without isn't worth the grief. Its not like your at 6% or 16% body fat from drinking a glass of milk a day. Lets lighten up a little.

...and yes P now this is officially the worst thread in IM history.

Ah. I get it now.

 

[tucker01]

Obviously not just gauging off what you've already achieved.

I'll go ahead and get crucified for this one, but I need to speak my mind here. Often times I see these threads become very black and white, there are no exception to the rules what so ever. If you break the rules you will immediately gain 50lbs and develop diabetes or some other terrible disease. Its Milk people, skim at that, organic or otherwise. If your using a cup of skim in your shake its not going to kill you. Hell if your bulking it may be to your aid to get away from the skim, but thats another point all together.

The small amount you could be damaging your potential outcome by drinking the milk, versus without isn't worth the grief. Its not like your at 6% or 16% body fat from drinking a glass of milk a day. Lets lighten up a little.

...and yes P now this is officially the worst thread in IM history.

Nobody is claiming 50lb weight gain or diabetes. We are talking about the Hormones and drugs used by the manufacturing companies.

 

[Uthinkso]

Nobody is claiming 50lb weight gain or diabetes. We are talking about the Hormones and drugs used by the manufacturing companies.

This isn't mad cow we're dealing with.

 

[tucker01]

Tis your health. You only get one chance.

Ignorance of our body as a society has lead us to the state we are in today.

 

[Jodi]

You have got to be fucking kidding me. You guys are the ones that turn this into an all or nothing thing. You guys are the ones that claim the black and white. How many fucking times have I said milk PWO is good? A lot I think. However, I am very aware of the chemicals and hormones used in today's milk which is why I recommend organic. This has only changed in the past 10-15 years. You want to fuck with your body then by all means, pump shit into it. I don't give a fuck what you guys do. We are here to tell you the differences and better options. You don't want to take our advice...........again, I don't give a fuck.

 

[Uthinkso]

You have got to be fucking kidding me. You guys are the ones that turn this into an all or nothing thing. You guys are the ones that claim the black and white. How many fucking times have I said milk PWO is good? A lot I think. However, I am very aware of the chemicals and hormones used in today's milk which is why I recommend organic. This has only changed in the past 10-15 years. You want to fuck with your body then by all means, pump shit into it. I don't give a fuck what you guys do. We are here to tell you the differences and better options. You don't want to take our advice...........again, I don't give a fuck.

You need to calm down, its advise, people can take it or leave it. Why get so worked up?

 

[Uthinkso]

Tis your health. You only get one chance.

Ignorance of our body as a society has lead us to the state we are in today.

I'll give you that, along with laziness complacency. Overall we're becoming a very a technologically based society where things are done for us and automatic. Every thing is made easier and hands free, our technology is dictating a very lazy life and we're shocked????

 

[Jodi]

You need to calm down, its advise, people can take it or leave it. Why get so worked up?

Oh I'm calm. I just said I don't give a fuck. What bothers me is that you claiming it's either black or white and this is not the case. You don't like our advice, don't take it. Do what you want with your body because I only try to advise of better choices. You don't want to believe me, fine, go read on your own. I just don't like us being accused of "our way or no way". That is not the case by any means and lately I've seen that thrown around a lot. Don't read it if you don't like but I'm not changing the way I give advice. I will always show the better options out there and what you do with it is your choice and not my problem.