Stuck between 2 cycles

[MDR]

Sounds good.

I am running the same just now minus the Tbol.

Agreed-Test-Deca and D-bol as a kicker is one of my favorite cycles. Switch the Deca for Tren, and you have another one of my personal favorites. Like Anadrol and Halo as an oral, too-but I always pick just one. Deca and D-bol seem made to go together, IMHO. Not a fan of Tbol, but a lot of people like it.

 

[JCBourne]

I'd love to run tren, but I already have sleeping problems and I have taken PH tren and it gave me insomnia. I can only guess what real tren would do to me!

 

[JCBourne]

Just started Yesterday.

Was doing the Test E before hand.
Got up 12lb so far.

Hopefully can Double that !

If you wouldn't mind PM me in a month or so and tell me how your cycle is going, I'm curious.

 

[blazeftp]

Will do.

 

[JCBourne]

Should ask but since dbol/deca is going to blow me up, I don't want to look like the moon. What should I start adex at?

Also, I'm toying with the idea between 20-30-40mg of dbol. Anyone have some input on this?

 

[malfeasance]

Kick starts never worked for me. They seem to make my cycles stall early. I like the orals at the end when the cycle naturally stalls. Kick starting almost guarantees the need for more gear throughout the cycle. If you use say 300 mg of dianabol a week for the first 4 weeks with your 500 mg of test a week and then drop the dianabol your cycle will stall unless you add in 300 mg of something. At least that is my experience.

Has anybody else had this same experience?

 

[MDR]

Kick starts never worked for me. They seem to make my cycles stall early. I like the orals at the end when the cycle naturally stalls. Kick starting almost guarantees the need for more gear throughout the cycle. If you use say 300 mg of dianabol a week for the first 4 weeks with your 500 mg of test a week and then drop the dianabol your cycle will stall unless you add in 300 mg of something. At least that is my experience. I'd rather just stick with a test base and a decent injectable anabolic and be patient for the 2 weeks it takes to jump to life and then at week 7 or so add a little bit of oral hardener of a dianabol to spring it back to life. After 12 weeks of that I'm ready for a break.

A lot of lifters like an oral boost around week 7 in a cycle. I like to add more Test, personally. I find gains flatten out around week 7 or 8 with or without a kicker. I start having more trouble recovering in PCT if I end with a strong oral.

 

[JCBourne]

I've heard the same thing about raising the test mg after 7-8 weeks. I've thought about doing that.

 

[JCBourne]

Should ask but since dbol/deca is going to blow me up, I don't want to look like the moon. What should I start adex at?

Also, I'm toying with the idea between 20-30-40mg of dbol. Anyone have some input on this?

 

[JCBourne]

Also, around week 7-8 would throwing in test c @ 200mg for the rest of the cycle be alright?

 

[MDR]

Always felt that C and E are interchangeable. Some prefer one over the other. but I don't find there is much difference.

 

[TGB1987]

Cycle 2 sounds good. I personnally love D-bol. Probably one of my favorites. I just feel good when I take it. You should make great gains with that cycle.

 

[JCBourne]

I think i'll up the mg of test around 7-8, Thinking maybe just 100mg of test c to give myself a slight edge. What you guys think?

 

[Diesel618]

I'd love to run tren, but I already have sleeping problems and I have taken PH tren and it gave me insomnia. I can only guess what real tren would do to me!

PH tren is not structurally related to trenbolone at all. It's a prohormone to Dienelone. The only way you'll know how Tren affects you is to try it. I hear where you're coming from though. P-Plex/Trenadrol was my favorite PH cycle of all time but I got insomnia from the PH tren too.