Summer cylce critique

[buffalo_bill]

6'0" 210 around 14% bf
1 - 4 winstrol 50 mgs
1 - 12 test e 750 mgs
1 - 12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod

Pct:
Nolva 40,20,20,20
Clomid 25,25,12.5,12.5
Ostarine 25mgs
Test booster

Goal is to lean out to about 10% bf staying around 210. Ran test, dbol, eq in the past want to keep this one shorter so no eq

I was thinking about going 25 mgs of winny w/ 25 mgs of dbol? Sounds like a hell of ride. So couriois if anyone has done something like this?
Also want to add in another compound with the test but not sure what. Might go for tren but would prefer something milder I was thinking masteron but not sure if my bf is low enough also the hair sides are a concern. Ideally I would try out primo but the chances of getting fake stuff is to high.
Was also thinking of something like albuterol or clen just to help stay lean but not sure if that is better suited for pct or time not on.

So basically open to all and any suggestions on compounds to add and overall critique thanks bros


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[VictorZ06]

I would just do test, tren, and aromasin. Don't use the nolva...only if an emergency happens. Not sure how much experience you have in total, but tren is a favorite, but not sure if you are ready for it. Winny hurts me, dbol if you insist on using an oral. Start with 30mg a day...adjust accordingly. Maybe some HCG starting week 2 until PCT. I would use adex for on cycle, and aromasin for PCT. But hey, I use what has always worked for me. There are lots of ways to play it.

Clomid doses are all off....think you got it mixed with aromasin. Screw the clen and albuterol. Keep it simple. IMHO. Good luck.



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[VictorZ06]

And please....post age with your stats. Thanks. (at least you posted some stats...unlike so many others who don't)



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[SFW]

Op, You're better off running that winny for the last 4 wks instead of the first 4. (8-12)

Why? Because you'll be leaner after 8 wks of cal deficit. Winny will produce better visual results the leaner you are.

 

[ldog]

Vic,

How about your favorite Proviron for this brother? It may allow him to get by with a minimal dose of an AI as well as max out his gains?? My two cents worth.

 

[buffalo_bill]

22 ran 4 cycles previously
So victorZ06 with the tren what would you dose it? And the test?
I've heard to run more tren but I do want to run a decent amount of test
Tren 500?
Test 250?
Or can I run more test
And what dosages for the adex while on and aromasin in pct?

Also what's your dose for the clomid during pct?
And I might go dbol at first and then winny at the end that sounds good

Thanks for the replies bros this has been the set up I've ran before but I am definitely open to adjusting


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[VictorZ06]

Yes...I suggest proviron in EVERY cycle. Many have problems getting it though....but if the OP can, at least 50mg ED.

I don't agree with more tren than test. 22 is on the younger side, but doable.

Test 600mg EW 1-12
Tren 300mg EW 1-12 (ACE...and you can raise it a little if you can handle the sides)
Proviron if you can get it, 50mg ED 1-12
Adex and Aromasin.....we are all different so some may need more, others less. Adex 1-12 at .5mg EOD (start with...see how it goes) Aromasin has the ability to increase free Testosterone and IGF (Insulin Growth Factor) levels in the body. Because of this, this drug is also very useful during PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) regimes when one is trying to restore natural Testosterone production levels in order to avoid a post cycle "crash". Since one of the main goals of PCT is getting estro under control, the very last thing you want is a big estro spike right at the end. Aromasin prevents this from occurring, keeping estrogen under control, preventing rebound and getting you on the right track to a full and efficient recovery. That said, 20-25mg ED for about 3 weeks.
Clomid: 150/100/75/50 (first day take 200mg)
HCG: 500iu 2X a week 2-12
Dbol...as much as 50mg, no more (some take 150) and I would keep it at around 5 weeks, though 6 and 7 can be done. Take milk thistle and Liv52. DONT DRINK.
Winny....it dries me out too much and doesn't let me complete my workouts because of the pain, but I have injuries and back problems. It's the devil to me so I just don't advise it. I would rather run HGH for several months. BUT...at your age you will need more than what older guys use. The younger you are, the more you need. At least that's been the case with me. When I was younger, I was hitting 8-10iu a day....but was using slin and IGF. You are still young so you don't really need GH. If you can afford it, a little hyperplasia is always a good thing.

This is just how I would personally run things if I was in your shoes, but I'm not. Others will chime in with different opinions. I can predict some telling you to use anavar. Not a bad idea, but it's expensive and often faked. Rather hard to get the real deal. It's an expensive compound, probably one of the most expensive next to HALO. Let's have some of the other guys chime in and see what they say. You can run some searches "aromasin and PCT" to get a little more info as to why that is a better way to go. Keeping estro under control is important, and you do need SOME. Good luck brother. Last thing....I normally wouldn't suggest someone at 22 to use tren....but you have two cycles under your belt. Use it responsibly and you will be OK...just please stay away from tren enan.



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[ldog]

Op,Routine bloodwork is vital for overall health as well as understanding how your body responds to various types of gear. You have received a wealth of knowledge...take this to heart.

 

[buffalo_bill]

VictorZ06 thanks a lot man I appreciate the advice

I have read a few things on proviron previously so if I can get it I will implement that

Also def gonna add in the aromasin for pct sounds like it has a solid benefit there

Have never ran clomid that high but I have seen it done like that many times.
Also courious as to why no Nolva?

Will be taking milk thistle and liv 52 the whole cycle especially because I might start and end with an oral. I have heard about joint issues with winny but I figure I might as well try it and see if it works for me.

I would LOVE to run hgh but the price, my age, and the possibility of it being fake turn me off to it

Also is the reasoning for no tren enan because the sides will take to long to clear if I stop use? Cause I'm not sure if I can get ace

either way I appreciate your help a lot man


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[VictorZ06]

VictorZ06 thanks a lot man I appreciate the advice

I have read a few things on proviron previously so if I can get it I will implement that

Also def gonna add in the aromasin for pct sounds like it has a solid benefit there

Have never ran clomid that high but I have seen it done like that many times.
Also courious as to why no Nolva?

Will be taking milk thistle and liv 52 the whole cycle especially because I might start and end with an oral. I have heard about joint issues with winny but I figure I might as well try it and see if it works for me.

I would LOVE to run hgh but the price, my age, and the possibility of it being fake turn me off to it

Also is the reasoning for no tren enan because the sides will take to long to clear if I stop use? Cause I'm not sure if I can get ace

either way I appreciate your help a lot man


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Yes, the reason for staying away from enan is for the reason you stated. Tren enan is the devil. With ace, if you take too much....the sides go away rather quick.

Some say nolva is good, but most say it's not needed. Clomid alone is fine. Nolva can be used, but I know of two people that suffered from blood clots from the use of Nolva. It is stronger than clomid, I have run dozens of cycles and never once had the need to touch the stuff. There are a lot of studies that explain why you don't need nolva. If you don't find them, I can pull them up for you. The clomid dose I gave you is more or less average. Some run it a bit higher, I gave you a medium/average dose. Tren ace is really easy to find, just takes a little poking around and you will find it. Proviron will be harder to find....most UGLs here make tren ace.



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[Tre]

The winny kicker is kind of a waste. You will be lean from it, then you'll probably smooth back out right after you drop it cause the remaining compounds will blow away the remaining effects that the winny just created right out of the water because once its out of your blood theres still all the other stuff hitting peak levels. Idk maybe not if the diet changes after you drop it. Also ghrp-6 taken by the truckload is great for pcts.