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t3 + DNP

Dude WTF is DNP 2,4-Dinitropheno and why they hell would you take it?! fuckin' A MAN!

"Commercial DNP is primarily used for scientific research and in manufacturing. It has been used at times to make dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It has also been used to make photographic developer, explosives, and pesticides."

Youre talking about a pill that was introduced 80yrs ago! In the fucking 1930s! Why would you want to bypass ATP?! Thats what give energy to every part of your body. It also causes release of calcium from mitochondrial stores and prevents calcium re-uptake.

So with T3 and DNP your bones, joints and shit are going to be weak and brittle IMO.

Its found in industrial waste, automobile exhaust. WTF?!

This was Information ^^^^^ is all from Wikipedia, which btw i dont really trust. But its out there.

I did find on a .gov site
The uncoupling agent 2,4-dinitrophenol improve... [J Neurotrauma. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI it states..

It is now generally accepted that excitotoxic cell death involves bioenergetic failure resulting from the cycling of Ca2+ and the generation of reactive oxygen species (ROS) by mitochondria. Both Ca2+ cycling and ROS formation by mitochondria are dependent on the mitochondrial membrane potential (Deltapsi(m)) that results from the proton gradient that is generated across the inner membrane. Mitochondrial uncoupling refers to a condition in which protons cross the inner membrane back into the matrix while bypassing the ATP synthase.

As a consequence of this "short-circuit," there is a reduction in Deltapsi(m). We have previously demonstrated that animals treated with the classic uncoupling agent 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) show significant protection against brain damage following striatal injections of the NMDA agonist quinolinic acid (QA). In an effort to elucidate the mechanism of neuroprotection, we have assessed the effects of DNP on several parameters of mitochondrial function caused by QA.

The results presented herein demonstrate that treatment with DNP attenuates QA-induced increases in mitochondrial Ca2+ levels and ROS formation and also improves mitochondrial respiration. Our findings indicate that DNP may confer protection against acute brain injury involving excitotoxic pathways by mechanisms that maintain mitochondrial function.

So IDK what to believe.

It is though a know fact that 2,4-Dinitrophenol is used in the manufacture of dyes, wood preservatives, and as a pesticide.

I would like to know what happens to your body after you stop taking it, both physically, internally and for how long can you take it.



DNP also has many medical uses. You are not bypassing ATP, your taxing ATP to cost more energy to take place, this cost in energy is heat=more calories burned=higher body temp.

Yes DNP is classified as a metabolic Poison because it taxes the ATP process. Why does this statement scare people? This is why DNP works and this is why you WANT to take it.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
DNP also has many medical uses. You are not bypassing ATP, your taxing ATP to cost more energy to take place, this cost in energy is heat=more calories burned=higher body temp.

Yes DNP is classified as a metabolic Poison because it taxes the ATP process. Why does this statement scare people? This is why DNP works and this is why you WANT to take it.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week

Hrm...but how long do you have to take it and the results last? What are the side affects? If once you stop taking it and your body just blows up and gets fat again, whats the point?

I'll stick to my diet and WO discipline. Dont get me wrong some assistance is good, but this seems over board.
 
Hrm...but how long do you have to take it and the results last? What are the side affects? If once you stop taking it and your body just blows up and gets fat again, whats the point?

I'll stick to my diet and WO discipline. Dont get me wrong some assistance is good, but this seems over board.

Takes a few days for it to build up in your system. Do 3 days at 200mg, then move up to 300mg, then 400mg if you want. At 400mg I was sweating like crazy. You need to drink lots of water when running DNP and through a more advanced process you will actually loose about 8lbs a week after you come off DNP if you properly hydrate yourself well on.

The side effects? Your temperature will be higher, therefore you will be sweating like crazy and always feel hot.

Don't get me wrong, DNP works, it's great precontest because you WILL loose weight. 15-25lbs lost of pure fat is very realistic.

No pct for DNP required, just stop taking it and it clears your system in 3 days tops.

You will only blow up and get fat again if your diet sucks, which is the only way you put on fat....the results last based on your diet. DNP is not a water draining crap that is temp, it's results are fat is burned and lost. It's by far the worlds most powerful fat burner. In fact ECA+Clen = 25% metabolic rate increase. DNP is believed to be 50%+. DNP is actually very cheap as well.

I lost 13lbs in 14 days on DNP. I kept the weight off more months in till I decided to go winter bulking. This spring it's DNP all the way to get ready for summer.


5"10
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BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
INB4 someone buys bulk powder and caps 400mg :coffee:


(That was a joke by the way....)
 
I am completely new to this forum as a member, but have been following for quite a while now.. I have had several people mention DNP, but I havent met anyone that has actually taken it...

Has anyone that has actually taken it had any strength loss? I have asked around about maintaining strength while on a cycle of DNP (again the people answering have never taken it, but they "know")...
 
I already explained all of that, and has DNP users proving my point with their posts.

.....and fyi, youre not 13%. sorry.
 
I lost 13lbs in 14 days on DNP. I kept the weight off more months in till I decided to go winter bulking. This spring it's DNP all the way to get ready for summer.

I can only imagine the amount of damage 13lbs lost in 14days has done to your internal organs. As tempting as it sounds that I can get ripped in 2 weeks sounds fucking awesome. Ill pass. I'd rather get that feeling I get when I set a goal on my own and get it done, which is indescribable

I have an old Iron Man magazine from Feb 2010 with Mike O'Hearn on the cover. There is an article in this addition Talking about The Most Dangerous Drugs and it talks about DNP.

Im going to summarize the article. Fuck looking up and down to write two pages.

"DNP is a poison that researchers use to destroy cells..."DNP was one of the original weight-loss drugs introduced in the early 1930's. An epidemic of cataracts in female uses and well as a fe deaths in which hapless victims were literally cooked from the inside out led to the removal of DNP by the nascent and FDA in 1938,"

"W/O getting into technical details DNP interferes with cellular energy production , forcing the body to rely on fat stores as an energy source. Some cases on record indicate DNP-related fat loss of up to a half pound a day. Thats' what makes it attractive to BBers."

"there is however a narrow range of safety and effectiveness. Use just a tad too much and the bodyfat loss will be the least of your concerns. You can die a quick and agonizing death from a small over dose. In addition ,idiosyncratic reaction can occur, so even the 'safe' dose of DNP can cause death. That happened in a few recent (as of the time this article was released 2010) where DNP user followed dosing advice the found on the internet and died"

"Lets assume that no rational person would take a clearly toxic substance just to loss bodyfat. Indeed, while most competitive BBers are highly motivated to compete successfully, few are deranged enough to place their lives on the line with DNP."

"Not only can is cause death from internal overheating, but emerging evidence shows that it may be related to cancer through cellular mutations caused my excessive free-radical production. So it can kill you quickly or slowly. Only the dose establishes the time line"

Then the article goes on to Diuretics and how "Muhammad Ali took a diuretic to make weight. The drug made him weak in the ring and his punching power as well as his legendary speed were greatly diminished, resulting in this loss to a less skilled opponent."

"Anyone whos regularly attended BBing contests has likely witnessed the results of diuretic abuse." He goes on to say.
1988 Pro BBer Albert Beckles collapses and convulses on stage
1991 At a British amateur BBer Andy Rody collapses and dies on stage.
1992 Pro BBer Mohammed "Momo" Benaziza dies after comperting in a grand prix contest in Europe. He succumbed to cardiovascular failure at age 33. Momo told (Jerry Brainum the author of this article) off the record that American BBers were "sissies" for their unfounded fear of drugs."

^All from Diuretics^

Pretty cool I still have this Iron Man Magazine and remembered the information in it.

Just be safe guys and you
too ladies.

We dont need to see any new posts from Prince about some fag who died from DNP. It gives opponents of AAS more ammunition. And recently there have already been several fags losing their minds among others shit.
 
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I already explained all of that, and has DNP users proving my point with their posts.

.....and fyi, youre not 13%. sorry.

FYI it says guess. You can only see my arm in a cell phone camera at a bar at 2am.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
People that died from DNP were using excessive amounts, 2,000mg+ daily.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
TJTJ, I respect that you air on the side of caution, it means you are coming at this from an intelligent level, you mention wondering what effect Dinitrophenol could/would have on internal organs, here is a study stating something close to home on that regard

II. VISCERAL ACTION
Dinitro treatment respects the liver, the kidneys, the cardio-vascular system and the blood.
This innocuity for the principal visceral functions is without doubt one of the main reasons for the distribution of this therapy.
Tainter, Stockton and Cutting have reported a series of cases in which one had measured the plasma bile index and determined
the test of Van de Bergh. Their analyses demonstrate, beyond a doubt, that the liver does not suffer any damage in the course
of dinitro treatment.
Experimental studies on animals do not show toxic effects of dinitrophenol on the kidney (Taitner, Cutting, Wood and
Proescher). Anatomical-pathological examinations of animals, even those which died from a massive dose of dinitrophenol, do
not reveal any important anatomical changes, except a small degree of cytolysis. Clinical documents are not abundant, but, on
the whole, do not seem to demonstrate that dinitrophenol is toxic for the kidneys.
As T.L. Schulte and M.L. Tainter wrote, "it doesn't seem that dinitrophenol at usual clinical doses is likely to harm the
kidneys."
Dinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system. Even when the basal metabolism is found
elevated to significant levels, there is no change in the rhythm of the pulse (Rosenblum).
On this point, dinitrophenol differs from all the other metabolic accelerants known. It is an observation that all the clinicians,
today, have had occasion to make.
All the clinicians know that, contrary to thyroxine, dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart.
The research of Professor Loeper and of his students has demonstrated the physiological and clinical importance of
myocardiac glycogen. Extensive studies by P.N. Taussig have shown that dinitrophenol does not reduce cardiac glycogen at all
and that, on this point, it differs completely from thyroxine.
 
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TJTJ, I respect that you air on the side of caution, it means you are coming at this from an intelligent level, you mention wondering what effect Dinitrophenol could/would have on internal organs, here is a study stating something close to home on that regard

II. VISCERAL ACTION
Dinitro treatment respects the liver, the kidneys, the cardio-vascular system and the blood.
This innocuity for the principal visceral functions is without doubt one of the main reasons for the distribution of this therapy.
Tainter, Stockton and Cutting have reported a series of cases in which one had measured the plasma bile index and determined
the test of Van de Bergh. Their analyses demonstrate, beyond a doubt, that the liver does not suffer any damage in the course
of dinitro treatment.
Experimental studies on animals do not show toxic effects of dinitrophenol on the kidney (Taitner, Cutting, Wood and
Proescher). Anatomical-pathological examinations of animals, even those which died from a massive dose of dinitrophenol, do
not reveal any important anatomical changes, except a small degree of cytolysis. Clinical documents are not abundant, but, on
the whole, do not seem to demonstrate that dinitrophenol is toxic for the kidneys.
As T.L. Schulte and M.L. Tainter wrote, "it doesn't seem that dinitrophenol at usual clinical doses is likely to harm the
kidneys."
Dinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system. Even when the basal metabolism is found
elevated to significant levels, there is no change in the rhythm of the pulse (Rosenblum).
On this point, dinitrophenol differs from all the other metabolic accelerants known. It is an observation that all the clinicians,
today, have had occasion to make.
All the clinicians know that, contrary to thyroxine, dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart.
The research of Professor Loeper and of his students has demonstrated the physiological and clinical importance of
myocardiac glycogen. Extensive studies by P.N. Taussig have shown that dinitrophenol does not reduce cardiac glycogen at all
and that, on this point, it differs completely from thyroxine.

This is why anyone that actually educates themselves on DNP would realize it is very safe when dosed properly and works with almost no side effects besides sweat and heat.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
This is why anyone that actually educates themselves on DNP would realize it is very safe when dosed properly and works with almost no side effects besides sweat and heat.

but why take the risk? you can not say its dangerous to mess around with. You just cant. You may be alright at the low dose, for now. but dont be surprised if you end up with cancer. Like the article said, you die either a quick or slow death.
 
but why take the risk? you can not say its dangerous to mess around with. You just cant. You may be alright at the low dose, for now. but dont be surprised if you end up with cancer. Like the article said, you die either a quick or slow death.

A little bit of time on google you will find DNP has been shown to actually decrease the size of tumors significantly :-)

DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

It is considered a toxin because it causes nausea, sweating, and weight loss.











5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
Well let's use google, let's find an article that has references listed and links to factual data. That was hard....first one on the list....

Source:
This is a well circulated article that has been copied and pasted many times....
http://forums.isteroids.com/isteroids-greatest-articles/39295-how-not-fuck-up-dnp-useage.html


"Credit to the gods that wrote this...

HOW TO NOT FUCK UP DNP:

Since some guys have been playing around and disrespecting DNP and then griping to the forums about the painful results, we need to make this VERY specific and VERY correct so that people won't keep jumping for DNP out of curiosity, or without the willpower they need to operate this respondibly. So here are my experienced guidelines to using it the RIGHT way.

FIRST GUIDLINE: Dosing. Use ONLY 200mg a day for the first four days. I don't care that you don't "feel" anything yet and you wanna bump it up. DNP accumulates in the body, and not "feeling" something means NOTHING. It's there, and it's working (the effect on metabolism begins within two hours of the first dose!). Four days will let you test your tolerance: do you have an allergy? Does it give you a rash? etc.
Only after those four days do you bump it up, by 200mg a day. The average dose is 400-600/day, and more than that gets a little severe. A full gram is the highest dose I've heard anyone use. I've used that much, and it's hell. I like to stay around 600 a day, which is HOT but safe and effective. Take caps even hours apart through the day, ending about 4-5 PM.

SECOND GUIDLINE...How to eat on DNP. This is purely personal experience, because some guys like to carb-deplete *before* using DNP (then eat carbs as usual while on), and other guys like a low-carb approach throughout. Both are fine. Using DNP is the only time that fructose is a desireable cutting carb, because it keeps the liver replentished. That reduces lethargy and spares muscle.
Be aware that eating high-carb foods WILL increase the heat sensation within an hour, and last about 2 hours. That means don't eat carbs before bed unless you want those night sweats to be even WORSE.
Personally, I ate whatever the hell I wanted! IHOP, chinese, fajitas...Yes, I burned hot, but I still lost 1.5 pounds every 2 days. Keep protein HIGH for muscles' sake, and try it yourself.

Foods I suggest including:
Blueberry yogurt. Blueberries are excellent antioxidants, and yogurt cultures help with digestive function, gas, and stool consistency (disgustingly soft stools are common during DNP).
Oregano-based foods. Oregano is perhaps one of the most potent antioxidants around,a nd one spoonful counts as a vegetable serving. See this article
Pineapple - I've found that pineapple helps alleviate those "DNP Blues". The fructose helps, and pineapple enzymes aid in protein digestion.
V8 - one 12-ounce can supplies six servings of veggies, concentrated as an excellent source of antioxidants, lycopene, and recovery of electrolytes.
Oatmeal - high-fiber foods are necessary. You'll find out why around, oh, day 5 or so. Trust me.


THIRD GUIDELINE...Supplements and DNP. I suggest:
ECA - DNP is not a stimulant. To keep energy high and aid in fat loss, use an ECA. Some advisors suggest that regular ephedrine is preferable to norephedrine because of the more direct "hit" of energy.
Prohormones - perfectly fine on DNP. I used 1-AD just to help keep strength and muscle up, and it worked fine. No problems here. You won't GROW muscle on DNP, but it'll help with strength and protection.
Obvious stuff - multivitamin, ZMA, etc.
Biotest PowerDrive - No, I'm not pimping Biotest. But PowerDrive is an excellent pre-workout mixture that actually works. Plus it's low-carb (only 15 calories total), so it won't cause carb-heat in the middle of your workout.

Antioxidants - I'm giving my own personal list, and why I use them:
Alpha Lipoic Acid - aids in fat management and blood sugar, and an excellent antioxidant.
Grape seed extract
Syntrax Radox
Green Tea
Inositol - mood enhancement, antioxidant, and muscle support. 1 gram/3x day
Ellagic acid - protects cell DNA/RNA from damage by free radicals, and may even atack cancerous cells. 400mg/twice a day
Fruit antioxidants - beyond-a-century's powder of high-potency natural fruit anti's. 1 gram, 2-3x day.
Trimethylglyceine - antioxidant, helps move fat and blood lipids into the liver and out of the body. 500mg, 2x day.
Vitamins E and C

Supplements NOT to use:
Any medications that suppress energy. No allergy meds, antidepressants, muscle relaxers, or beta blockers. DNP will have you low as it is; don't worsen your body's energy by taking something that suppresses you further.

DRUGS - Sheesh, you'd think I wouldn't have to mention this, but two idiots in particular (right here on this forum) recently affirmed that some people still just don't get it. NO alcohol (not even "moderate"), NO ecstasy, NO GHB, etc. If you don't have the willpower to forego these habits, DNP is not for you.

Syntrax Swole - a personal discovery. I tried Swole while on DNP...once. Two hours of hell, feeling inside-out.

FOURTH GUIDELINE...working out on DNP. Keep lifting short, 30-40 minutes. DNP works very well, causing your body to use 150% or more the calories per action you'd normally use. That means DON'T try to repeat your usual workouts. Drop to moderate weights, 8-12 reps, not to failure, and with plenty of walking rest between sets. You are NOT going to grow muscle on DNP, so don't use your usual heavy routine. Since DNP can cause light-headedness and heat dizzyness, you have my permission to skip squats in favor of leg presses this time.

Cardio is a controversial one. My advice - do NOT do cardio on high doses of DNP (600mg or more). It's dangerous and counterproductive. Below that amount, some cardio is fine, but keep it to 20 minutes and not at full-gallop. Remember, DNP will drain water from your quickly, causing you to leech out minerals, vitamins, and salts. Don't overdo it.

During exercise, consume at least 1 liter of water per 30 minutes of work, whether you're thirsty or not. DNP is evil in the way it blunts thirst, while at the same time doing the cruel trick of bloating your body with water WHILE dehydrating you from water in your organs. MAKE yourself drink. Always folllow DNP exercise with antioxidants, carbs, and this is a good time to use your multivitamin.

Don't feel embarrassed about poor workouts. Just this morjning I did a workout with a whopping nine sets (wimp!) before calling it quits. Listen to your body, and let it tell you when enough's enough; don't guage workouts by what you *usually* can do otherwise.

Here's my research. This is AMAZING! Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%. The summaries are all right here, friends. Karma me up!

DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/dinitrop.html reports on health risks. While there have not been human studies, animal studies found no cancers caused by DNP administration. It is considered a toxin because it causes nausea, sweating, and weight loss.

http://www.cyberiron.com/drugs/dinitrophenol.html reports on halth risks from external exposue. In other words, don’t get it in your eyes, or on your skin if you’re allergic. Pretty elementary stuff.

http://www.ebec2000.com/abstracts/056.htm This animal study documents a 64% increase in metabolism. "These findings confirm that DNP effectively increases metabolic rate..." Duh.

http://www.zymed.com/pdf/04-xxxx/04-8300.pdf A PDF file about an antidote to DNP.

http://www.boehringer-ingelheim.es/...glesa/cap13.htm finds that DNP did not activate liver enzymes (MAT) associated with liver damage

"Comparative study of toxicity of 4-nitrophenol and 2,4-dinitrophenol in newborn and young rats." Koizumi M, Yamamoto Y, Ito Y, Takano M, Enami T, Kamata E, Hasegawa R. Division of Risk Assessment, National Institute of Health Sciences, 1-18-1 Kamiyoga, Seta***a-ku, Tokyo 158-8501, Japan. This study found that DNP can induce death in overdosed amounts, but that up to that point no toxicity was evident, nor were there any abnormalities in physical development.

"Phenol toxicity and conjugation in human colonic epithelial cells." Pedersen G, Brynskov J, Saermark T. Dept of Medical Gastroenterology, Herlev University Hospital, Copenhagen, Denmark.. This study found that DNP has a toxic effect on cells of the colon, with "toxic" defined in two ways: first, it interfered with metabolism (this we know—it’s the intended effect of DNP users!) and second, it interfered with bowel inflammation (not a health risk. This is caused by osmotic effect, with the worst results being softened stools and gas).

"Mechanisms of bacterial resistance to macrolide antibiotics." Nakajima Y. Division of Microbiology, Hokkaido College of Pharmacy, 7-1 Katsuraoka-cho, Otaru, Hokkaido 047-0264, Japan. This study found that antibiotic-resistant bacteria could be thwarted with DNP. "the extent of the accumulated drug in a resistant cell increases as much as that in a susceptible cell in the presence of an uncoupling agent such as…2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP)."

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out—DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure…"


"New insights in the cellular processing of platinum antitumor compounds, using fluorophore-labeled platinum complexes and digital fluorescence microscopy."
Molenaar C, Teuben JM, Heetebrij RJ, Tanke HJ, Reedijk J. Department of Molecular Cell Biology, Leiden University Medical Centre, The Netherlands. DNP is used as a control in tests of antitumor cells because it does NOT bind to cell DNA, nor promote tumors, yet its staining abilities enable tracking of the uptake of antitumor drugs.

Specific inhibition of breast cancer cells by antisense poly-DNP-oligoribonucleotides and targeted apoptosis." Ru K, Taub ML, Wang JH. Department of Biochemistry, State University of New York, Buffalo 14260-3000, USA Are you ready for this? DNP actually INHIBITS (!!!) breast cancers! Yes, not only does it NOT promote cancers, it’s being recognized as a cancer-fighter/blocker. "Two membrane-permeable and RNase-resistant antisense poly-2'-O-(2,4-dinitrophenyl)-oligoribonucleotides (poly-DNP-RNAs) have been synthesized as inhibitors of human breast cancer…fluorescence assay indicates that the targeted antisense inhibition by poly-DNP-RNAs leads to apoptosis of SK-Br-3 cells but does not affect nontumorigenic MCF-10A cells. The control poly-DNP-RNAs with random or sense nucleotide sequence are completely inactive." Plain English? DNP can be synthesized as an anti-cancer compound, because tests show that it blocks mutagens but does NOT affect non-mutagenic (healthy) cells, and has no RNA effects on them.

"Heat shock protein induction by certain chemical stressors is correlated with their cytotoxicity, lipophilicity and protein-denaturing capacity." Neuhaus-Steinmetz U, Rensing L. Institute of Cell Biology, Biochemistry and Biotechnology, NW II University of Bremen, Germany. The thermic effect of DNP induces protein synthesis (heat shock protein, or HSP, synthesis). In fact, it’s quite GOOD at it: "ASA, DNP and CCCP induced HSP at lower concentrations than substances with a similar lipophilicity…"

"Comparative effects of the metabolic inhibitors 2,4-dinitrophenol and iodoacetate on mouse neuroblastoma cells in vitro." Andres MI, Repetto G, Sanz P, Repetto M.
National Institute of Toxicology, Seville, Spain. In this study, DNP’s observed effect was an increase in metabolism (duh!), while the other toxins compared to it had harmful in vitro effects but no increase in metabolism.

"Inhibition of uncoupled respiration in tumor cells. A possible role of mitochondrial Ca2+ efflux." Gabai VL.Medical Radiology Research Center, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Obninsk. DNP not only does not cause tumors, but it inhibited their respiration by 20-25% compared to controls.

"Amsacrine-induced lesions in DNA and their modulation by novobiocin and 2,4-dinitrophenol." Shibuya ML, Buddenbaum WE, Don AL, Utsumi H, Suciu D, Kosaka T, Elkind MM. Department of Radiology and Radiation Biology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins 80523. In this study, researchers found that DNP abrogates—or disrupts—cytotoxicity in hamsters (using cancerous cells). They expected to find that DNP would interfere with anticancer treatments, but instead found that DNP increased their effects. They state, though, that they cannot claim a proven effect of DNP on anticancer treatments yet, although they do agree that treatment with DNP actually enhanced the effects of the DNA regenerative therapy of anticancer chemotherapy.

"Induction of endonucleolytic DNA cleavage in human acute myelogenous leukemia cells by etoposide, camptothecin, and other cytotoxic anticancer drugs: a cautionary note." Kaufmann SH. Oncology Center, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, Maryland 21205. The authors warn that certain anti-leukemia drugs resulted in "extensive DNA degradation." BUT (good ol’ DNP to the rescue!), "Preincubation with dinitrophenol abolished the effect…"

"[Dependence of the nature of the action of metabolic inhibitors on ribosomal RNA synthesis in Ehrlich ascites carcinoma cells on cell integrity]" [Article in Russian] Akhlynina TV, Buzhurina IM, Panov MA, Rozovskaia IA, Chernaia NG. DNP actually inhibits the synthesis of RNA in carcinoma cells. In other words, it helps cancerous cells commit suicide by neutering themselves. "Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) synthesis in the intact Ehrlich ascite carcinoma cells is selectively inhibited by papaverin (ED50 = 0.01 mM), 2,4-dinitrophenol (DPN; ED50 = 5 microM), and actinomycin D (ED50 = 0.1 microgram/ml)."

"Autocatabolism of surface macromolecules shed by human melanoma cells." Bystryn JC, Perlstein J. Cancer Res 1982 Jun;42(6):2232-7. This study finds that DNP helps melanoma cells die (autocatabolize) while other cells are unaffected.

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside - tons of research, including medical studies. Excerpts:

DNP does not cause liver damage: "Their analyses demonstrate, beyond a doubt, that the liver does not suffer any damage in the course of dinitro treatment." (Biological Study of Dinitro Drugs in Humans By Dr. Jacques Bell. Bell, Jacques. 1939. Etude biologique des produits dinitres chez l'homme. Medecine. 19:749-54. Translation © 1996 Robert Ames)

Also: "Experimental studies on animals do not show toxic effects of dinitrophenol on the kidney. Anatomical-pathological examinations of animals, even those which died from a massive dose of dinitrophenol, do not reveal any important anatomical changes, except a small degree of cytolysis. Clinical documents are not abundant, but, on the whole, do not seem to demonstrate that dinitrophenol is toxic for the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol. (Grant and Schube)."

"it doesn't seem that dinitrophenol at usual clinical doses is likely to harm the kidneys."

"Dinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart."

"Dinitrophenol does not attack cell tissue albumin and does not determine the fat loss to the expense of the muscles, contrary to thyroxine."

"dinitrophenol offers this precious advantage that the cessation of its use at the slightest appearance of signs indicating an imminence of intoxication results immediately in the arrest of those symptoms." (Professor Pouchet)."


Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect."


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BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
What about cataract's? The Wiki article said Women reported this condition. Is it the same with men? That is a pretty serious eye disease!
 
What about cataract's? The Wiki article said Women reported this condition. Is it the same with men? That is a pretty serious eye disease!

This was found in mostly women that were taking very high doses (over 1,000mg a day). This also happened to only 2% of women if I recall correctly. Cataracts is a very common thing in regular life as well. I don't think one can definitely say it came from DNP, but it is suggested.

It is a bad disease, but you get cataracts if you sleep with contacts in as well.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
Google all you want but the facts are out there and Wikipedia is shit. No scientific study should be believed on that site.

Find real scientific human study.

A little bit of time on google you will find DNP has been shown to actually decrease the size of tumors significantly :-)

DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

It is considered a toxin because it causes nausea, sweating, and weight loss.

[SIZE=+1] 2,4-DINITROPHENOL[/SIZE]
CASRN: 51-28-5
51-28-5.png

[SIZE=+1]Mutagenicity Studies:[/SIZE]


GENE-TOX Evaluation A (pre-1980):
Species/Cell Type:Arabidopsis species
Assay Type:
Gene mutation
Assay Code:
ARM- Results:Negative
Panel Report:EMICBACK/45875; MUTAT RES 99:243-255,1982

Species/Cell Type:Allium cepa
Assay Type:
Chromosome aberrations
Assay Code:ALC+
Results:
Positive
Panel Report:
EMICBACK/48093; MUTAT RES 99:273-291,1982

Chemical Classification Category:
Nitroimidazoles, nitrofurans, nitroquinolines, nitroaromatics, nitroalkanes
Benzene ring

Oh yeah, sure, youre right that its safe :jerkit:

I went to the site you posted and this is what I found.

Gene mutation, chromosome aberrations sounds like a party!

Dude. Its fucking poison!
 
I want DNP

I want DNP too, but not without the Gene mutation and Chromosome aberrations part.


And you guys were giving me grief about 4 caps of SDMZ. But After finding out about how powerful dymethazine is part I backed off.

But w/e do as you will.
 
Thyroid reception

^ I agree. The Thyroid gland should not be messing around with. Thyroxine (T3) Is hydrophobic when trying to enter the target cell so it uses secondary messengers via G Proteins (cAMP) which later enter the nucleus for mRNA transcription and increase ATP production. It also controls calcitonin which affect your calcium ions and the enzymes activating phosphorylation that set up positive feedback loop rapidly elevates. so it basically wont allow your body to release calcium out of your skeletal tissue cells. And to part that need it.

I dont even know what DNP is.

I always understood the literature to state that triiodothyronine diffuses through the plasma membrane to receptors inside the cytosol. Once bound, just as steroid hormones, they form complexes that then translocate to the nucleus to transcribe specific genes. These hormones are considered to be part of the nuclear receptor superfamily. Once the mRNA is transcribed it translocates back to the cytosol to finish the translation process. Only hydrophillic hormones exert there primary action via g-proteins and the cascade effect.
 
I would suspect that for every person like myself that see the positive, beneficial factors of a compound like DNP, there will always be the opposite, that will find the downfall, risks of the compound. I'm ok with that.

I do have to say though, that the "stuides" that showed that people back in the 1930's literately cooked from the inside, is just a falsehood. The cases were actually of that of dehydration, the organs and muscle tissue were all in tact and un damaged, with the exception of what dehydration did.

the Cataracts are very true. out of roughly 500,000 users both in testing, and OTC, there was a .01 to1% report of cataracts, mostly of women, I forget the reason why, but it had something to do with something their bodies didnt produce enough of that caused the issue.

Are there risks..yes..you have to personally weigh if you want to try it or not, I would also like to point out, in another study that I think Tainter had patients on DNP for over a year, and their health was fully in tact.
 
Google all you want but the facts are out there and Wikipedia is shit. No scientific study should be believed on that site.

Find real scientific human study.



[SIZE=+1] 2,4-DINITROPHENOL[/SIZE]
CASRN: 51-28-5
51-28-5.png

[SIZE=+1]Mutagenicity Studies:[/SIZE]


GENE-TOX Evaluation A (pre-1980):
Species/Cell Type:Arabidopsis species
Assay Type:
Gene mutation
Assay Code:
ARM- Results:Negative
Panel Report:EMICBACK/45875; MUTAT RES 99:243-255,1982

Species/Cell Type:Allium cepa
Assay Type:
Chromosome aberrations
Assay Code:ALC+
Results:
Positive
Panel Report:
EMICBACK/48093; MUTAT RES 99:273-291,1982

Chemical Classification Category:
Nitroimidazoles, nitrofurans, nitroquinolines, nitroaromatics, nitroalkanes
Benzene ring

Oh yeah, sure, youre right that its safe :jerkit:

I went to the site you posted and this is what I found.

Gene mutation, chromosome aberrations sounds like a party!

Dude. Its fucking poison!

I'm not sure what two studies on onion plants have to do with DNP and a real human study, but ok...


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
Google all you want but the facts are out there and Wikipedia is shit. No scientific study should be believed on that site.

Find real scientific human study.



[SIZE=+1] 2,4-DINITROPHENOL[/SIZE]
CASRN: 51-28-5
51-28-5.png

[SIZE=+1]Mutagenicity Studies:[/SIZE]


GENE-TOX Evaluation A (pre-1980):
Species/Cell Type:Arabidopsis species
Assay Type:
Gene mutation
Assay Code:
ARM- Results:Negative
Panel Report:EMICBACK/45875; MUTAT RES 99:243-255,1982

Species/Cell Type:Allium cepa
Assay Type:
Chromosome aberrations
Assay Code:ALC+
Results:
Positive
Panel Report:
EMICBACK/48093; MUTAT RES 99:273-291,1982

Chemical Classification Category:
Nitroimidazoles, nitrofurans, nitroquinolines, nitroaromatics, nitroalkanes
Benzene ring

Oh yeah, sure, youre right that its safe :jerkit:

I went to the site you posted and this is what I found.

Gene mutation, chromosome aberrations sounds like a party!

Dude. Its fucking poison!

The only person mentioning Wikipedia is you good sir :)


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
Youre all still idiots for wanting to take this stuff. Just sayin'
 
I'm not sure what two studies on onion plants have to do with DNP and a real human study, but ok...


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week


:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Guys you dont need to argue about the dangers, there is danger to everything we use, the point is how to use a chemical safely...
 
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:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Guys you dont need to argue about the dangers, there is danger to everything we use, the point is how to use a chemical safely...

True that


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week
 
but why take the risk? you can not say its dangerous to mess around with. You just cant. You may be alright at the low dose, for now. but dont be surprised if you end up with cancer. Like the article said, you die either a quick or slow death.


How many times have you used DNP? What dose and for what length of time? Thanks.
 
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