Read alot of thatguys posts they are absolutely rediculous! Why would you run anything without test? Im sure the same results would happen with any aas. thats how they work they shut the bodies test down because you are taking it artificially. The body sees there is more than is naturally required so to save itself it doesnt create more. Thats why we use a pct to tell the body to return to creating more. Thats anabolics 101
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