Test E/Methadrol Cycle Log

[Tysdon]

21 yrs old. Been training off and on for about 5 years but only seriously for the last 2.
I'm 6'2 213lbs about 10% bf.
Lift stats: 500 DL 385 squat 305 bench

Diet: 500g carbs, 120g fats, 300 protein. I've seen people people with a shitload more cals so I'd appreciate thoughts on this. From what I've read however 300g should be adequate, I have no problem bumping that up though.

Cycle:
1-10 Test E 500mg/wk ( Injecting 2 x Per Week at 250mg each ie; Mon/Thurs )
1-4 Methadrol 2caps a day
1-12 HCG 250iu twice a week the first 10 weeks and last 2 500iu 2x a week.
1-10 Aromasin 12.5mg/ED
13-16 Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5 ED
13-16 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 ED.


Ancillaries:
Liv. 52
Animal Flex
IronMagLabs Advanced Cycle Support
Nizoral shampoo to curb any hair loss
Regular vitamins ED, E,C,D etc.
GAT Jetmass which I already take post w.o


Training Program: Right now I do a double progression program that is 5 phases each phase being 2 weeks. Incidentally it fits the 10 week cycle I'm going to do. My lifting partner and I have been doing this and despite its incredibly high volume (1.5-2 hr training sessions) we have both been gaining strength and weight at a constant rate. (He is 5'9 245lbs at roughly 12-14% bf for reference)

Questions/comments/constructive criticism welcome. I don't start the cycle for about another week so if anyone has something to add or that I should change I can still do that. Thanks!

 

[Supa Diesel G33k]

Im in for results.

 

[bigbenj]

Is this your first cycle?
With a good diet, there is no reason you can't put on at least 20lbs.
Test and Methadrol is powerhouse combo.

 

[Tysdon]

Will be taking pics/measurements of myself and training partner at start and every 2-3 weeks as well. He is doing exact same cycle but with eq added. Yes first cycle ben. Also do you think 300g is too much too little just right? Its my main source of concern

 

[DTP]

obviously in!

 

[bigbenj]

I think 300 is a good number.
A lot of people base protein off of pure bw, but, it should be based off of lean mass. Lean mass is what you are feeding. You aren't trying to feed the fat on your body.
If you are 10% bf, that puts you at 191 lbs of lean mass(roughly), so, you'd be getting over 1.5 per lb of lean mass, which is good.

 

[Tysdon]

Another question. If I keep my diet fairly clean, which I will be doing, will the combo of test and hcg help me lose a bit of bodyfat along the way? Clearly I don't expect to get ripped up like Gregg Plitt but a 1 or 2% bf loss would be sweet.

 

[bigbenj]

that all depends on your diet. if you keep it clean, you can definitely shed a little bodyfat.
Methadrol is a mass builder, that will illict "wet gains", similar to dbol or anadrol, so, while you may lose some body fat, it wont be as apparent, under the water you will be holding.
You will have a much better assessment of where you're at after PCT.

 

[Tysdon]

Well its not letting my edit my original post so I guess I'll just post again to add the additional information.

Cycle will be starting May 1st
I'll be updating with thoughts/progress etc. every couple of days. Will have measurements and before pics and will be doing progress pictures of my buddy and me every 2 weeks.
Gear as well as pct stuff is all from Kalpa Pharmaceuticals through EK. If anyone has any experience with Kalpa lemme know.

 

[MakeItMethylated]

Subbed!

 

[XxGetLeanxX]

Looks tasty sir...enjoy the ride. The only thing I was change would be to add another week into your PCT and lower your nolva dose. SD will shut you down HARD. You could do 40 for a couple days, then drop it to 20 and run it like 20/20/20/10/10. I personally like 5-6 week PCT's, but that just me. Good luck and be safe!

 

[colochine]

Very well planned out sir. Good job!

 

[Tysdon]

UPDATE: I need some help! the gear came in today (pic attached) and I got to cutting up the Aromasin into 12.5mg portions. They are a small white pill with KP engraved into them. Funny thing is though, when I opened up the Nolvadex, they were also a small white pill with KP engraved into them. The two pills are indistinguishable from one another. Is this normal with this type of stuff? Or did I just pay a shit ton of money for sugar pills?

 

[MakeItMethylated]

thats normal, its all white pills from where i get my stuff what source did u use though?

 

[Tysdon]

EK. Kalpa Pharmaceuticals is the brand

 

[MakeItMethylated]

i woulda went with something better, heard a lot of crap on EK

 

[Tysdon]

Well nobody else had what I was looking for, Z was down at the time of order and he doesn't have the AIs/PCT we were looking for. EK was super helpful throughout the whole ordering process I gotta say though. There was a little mixup with payment and they took sort of a "hit" to make me happy.

 

[MakeItMethylated]

customer service and quality of gear is different though, hope u didnt get underdosed stuff

 

[Tysdon]

Another question. If I start noticing gyno symptoms, and I bump the aromasin to 25mg ED, how long do I wait before I add nolva if the aromasin has no effect?

 

[Diesel618]

Looks like you did your homework bro. I'm def interested to see how this goes for you. Test+SD on virgin receptors is gonna be the ride of your life.

As far as protein, I've always been one to err on the side of getting too much. I would say 300 g is a bare minimum for you on cycle. I weigh about the same as you and I'll be shooting for 400 on my cycle. 500 g carbs is very good. I have a hard time getting above 400 g carbs in a day but if you can do it more power to ya.

As for the gyno. I hate to say don't worry about it, because it is definately a real concern, but at 500 mg, 12.5 mg aromasin should do the trick to keep E2 at bay. I've gone up to 750 mg/week for 5 or 6 weeks with no AI at all before I started developing symptoms. If it does occur though, bump the Aromasin to 25 mg/ED for a week. If it persists, add 20 mg nolva a day. If it persists still, it's time to get some letro. Just don't mindfuck yourself by checking your nipples out every day and squeezing the shit out of em and shit. Typical rookie mistake and I've been there lol

 

[rocker44]

Training Program: Right now I do a double progression program that is 5 phases each phase being 2 weeks. Incidentally it fits the 10 week cycle I'm going to do. My lifting partner and I have been doing this and despite its incredibly high volume (1.5-2 hr training sessions) we have both been gaining strength and weight at a constant rate. (He is 5'9 245lbs at roughly 12-14% bf for reference)

i dont wana sound like an ass but if your still consistantly gaining strenth and weight, why cycle now ?

 

[pmlittle7]

there is no reason you can't put on at least 20lbs

 

[Digitalash]

just putting in a good word and hopefully ease your mind a bit, EK has a pretty good rep around here and everything I've gotten from them was legit. My first cycle was dragon pharma test E and genshi dbol and they both worked great. Kalpa is new I think but what little I've heard of them was good.


Cycle is very well planned though bro and should go well

 

[Tysdon]

Training Program: Right now I do a double progression program that is 5 phases each phase being 2 weeks. Incidentally it fits the 10 week cycle I'm going to do. My lifting partner and I have been doing this and despite its incredibly high volume (1.5-2 hr training sessions) we have both been gaining strength and weight at a constant rate. (He is 5'9 245lbs at roughly 12-14% bf for reference)

i dont wana sound like an ass but if your still consistantly gaining strenth and weight, why cycle now ?

Most of what I posted was a copy paste from an original post I did some months back when I was planning the cycle. I changed the cycle and ancillaries and updated the weight numbers but I kept the rest the same just out of laziness I suppose. As of now we have pretty much hit a plateau. I'm putting on weight a LOT slower now that I've broken past 210.

just putting in a good word and hopefully ease your mind a bit, EK has a pretty good rep around here and everything I've gotten from them was legit. My first cycle was dragon pharma test E and genshi dbol and they both worked great. Kalpa is new I think but what little I've heard of them was good.


Cycle is very well planned though bro and should go well

Thanks bro. This cycle is mostly based off of your advice.

Looks like you did your homework bro. I'm def interested to see how this goes for you. Test+SD on virgin receptors is gonna be the ride of your life.

As far as protein, I've always been one to err on the side of getting too much. I would say 300 g is a bare minimum for you on cycle. I weigh about the same as you and I'll be shooting for 400 on my cycle. 500 g carbs is very good. I have a hard time getting above 400 g carbs in a day but if you can do it more power to ya.

As for the gyno. I hate to say don't worry about it, because it is definately a real concern, but at 500 mg, 12.5 mg aromasin should do the trick to keep E2 at bay. I've gone up to 750 mg/week for 5 or 6 weeks with no AI at all before I started developing symptoms. If it does occur though, bump the Aromasin to 25 mg/ED for a week. If it persists, add 20 mg nolva a day. If it persists still, it's time to get some letro. Just don't mindfuck yourself by checking your nipples out every day and squeezing the shit out of em and shit. Typical rookie mistake and I've been there lol

Awesome thanks man. Lol the 500g carbs is the easy part. Rice and low fat pop tarts. How the fuck you're gonna eat 400g of protein is a mystery to me haha getting used to eating 300 right now is a biotch. I have been keeping it in the 220-270 range and just the 300 minimum requirement is a dickton of food.

 

[Diesel618]

Don't fear the shakes. I have 3 a day.

 

[Digitalash]

shakes are cheating!!





jk I have like 10lbs of whey left over from a 25lb box I ordered from trueprotein, recession whey deal can't beat it

add olive oil, peanut butter and ground oats and it's actually a damn good bulking meal

 

[Tysdon]

and so it begins. Had to wait a few more days than I anticipated because my lifting partner had some life stuff to deal with and we wanted to make sure we didnt have any distractions on cycle. Took my first Methadrol this morning. Will be pinning test and hcg and taking second pill before I lift tonight. Anxious as fuck to pin but also super excited to get this shit started. Will post pics and measurements late tonight

 

[MakeItMethylated]

and so it begins. Had to wait a few more days than I anticipated because my lifting partner had some life stuff to deal with and we wanted to make sure we didnt have any distractions on cycle. Took my first Methadrol this morning. Will be pinning test and hcg and taking second pill before I lift tonight. Anxious as fuck to pin but also super excited to get this shit started. Will post pics and measurements late tonight

Lookin forward to results

 

[Tysdon]

Alright so first pin was nerve racking lol. I thought at first I was going to have to pin myself in the quad but my buddy actually wanted to pin each other in the ass (no homo) so we did that which made it way easier for me. The HCG was a breeze tho, didnt even feel that fucker. By the way noone ever told me it takes 9 hours to draw a ML of test with a 25 gauge needle lol that shit was a learning experience. Felt like I had a little "bump" after injection but no pain going in or anything and now its a few hours later and it just feels like a light bruise (is this normal?) Felt like I got extra pumped/vascular today but thats most likely placebo. I look forward to the test and methadrol actually kicking in and giving me that "superman" feeling. "Before" pics up tomorrow

 

[DTP]

Alright so first pin was nerve racking lol. I thought at first I was going to have to pin myself in the quad but my buddy actually wanted to pin each other in the ass

Sounds like an enjoyable night. Did you guys at least light some candles?

Excited for results!