Test first timer question...

[Showstopper1969]

I'm into my second week of my pct (clomid) after Super DMZ 2.0, want to start pinning test at around 250mg a week....my question is, can I go ahead and start pinning, or wait until my Pct is done and then start?

Thanks for any advice.

 

[Digitalash]

You need time off, you understand the reason for PCT correct? Your natural test levels will not be fully recovered right after pct, normal reccomendation is Time ON = time off, not counting pct.


So you ran a 4 week cycle, plus 4 weeks of pct, plus another 4 at the least. Bloodwork's the only way to say for sure but I would not start right away. Also 250mg test a week barely replaces natural production. Not a good cycle and not worth being shut down for. Take some time off and read the stickys, especially "first cycle and PCT". Make sure you understand AI use and run 500mg a week for 10 weeks, wait two weeks and run a 4 week pct.

 

[Showstopper1969]

Thanks for the reply...thats what i thought, just wanted to be sure!

 

[jay_steel]

250 test will not even be worth it. It may just be enough to put you over your natural amount. I wouldn't even consider pinning unless its 600mg. Now if your HRT and have low test period and just want to get it back up to normal range then ok. But if you want some pow pow with it. Boost it to 600mg and get blood work before you start. I just got a fucked up text from my boy who NEVER listens to me keep in mind. He listens to his dealer and gym friends.

He doesnt do blood work and has been on for two years off and on. Never did a complete PCT inconsistant with injections and orals. takes random breaks. Then takes deca and uses nolva. cruises on test then does a blast with tren. I get a text saying bro I have fluid coming out of my nipples. The first think I ask him was what AI are you on. He said none. I then said remember I told you not to take Nolva... He says yeah but the guy said its ok. I said there is your answer. Moral to this dumb story if he would have done blood work along through even with his mistakes he would have known his body was fucked up.

 

[Showstopper1969]

Would the response be the same if my doc was putting me on TRT? What I mean, is do I still do a pct if I was going to be on TRT anyway?

 

[jay_steel]

if your not coming off then there is no reason for a PCT. But there is a reason for an AI. PCT allows your test to come back up and recover AI is going to keep your body in check. Only way to know though is to get your blood work done.

A doc will put you on a shot of test c 200 every one to two weeks.

 

[Goodskie]

I've had a little fluid from my nipples on gear but never Gino or itchy nips. I use adex now just in case and no more fluid. Caber too. I just use them as a precaution as I've never had a gyno scare. It's a good idea

but ya 250 isn't shit. I cruise at that and even that's blah. If you're gunna do test do it.

 

[Z499]

im on 250 a week and ive noticed some gains but nothing like i would if i were running protocol doses. only reason i did 250 is because im extremely cautious when trying something new, next cycle im bumping up to 500mg with a dmz 2.0 kick start for the first 4 weeks, then on the last 4 weeks im adding dbol 50mg daily. right now my ai is aromasin 10mg eod and im continuing my ai all through out my pct along with clomid

 

[Roaddkingg]

im on 250 a week and ive noticed some gains but nothing like i would if i were running protocol doses. only reason i did 250 is because im extremely cautious when trying something new, next cycle im bumping up to 500mg with a dmz 2.0 kick start for the first 4 weeks, then on the last 4 weeks im adding dbol 50mg daily. right now my ai is aromasin 10mg eod and im continuing my ai all through out my pct along with clomid

One thing I would like to mention to you is....Aromasin has a short half life and has to be taken every day.
Thats one reason why I and many other choose to use arimadex ON cycle sinc e it has a longer half life and can be effectivly taken every other day.
Read up on this and you will see. Some prefer aromasin for ON cycle but for me it's best to use it in PCT since it is suicidal to estrogen and can help stop a estro re-bound.
But it's up to you. You can use it for your whole cycle including PCT but it has to be taken every day to be effective.
Have you included any HCG for this cycle?
It's a good idea you know so you dont have that to contend with.
I always use HCG throughout any cycle and not go the route of blasting it in those two weeks leading up to PCT.

 

[Spraynpray]

I think exemestane has a 27 hour half life.

 

[Z499]

im on test e 250mg weekly and the name of the ai i'm on is lquid stane. i was actually going to blast 1000iu a week for the 2 weeks leading up to pct. when i bump up next cycle ill be on hcg through out cycle, i was going to blast it again but decided otherwise and also when i bump up im going to run 12.5mg aromasin ed and adjust dosage accordingly. but as of right now everything is working out for me, im going to get blood work done soon just to make sure im not messed up even though i dont feel like anything is wrong.

Exemestane 30mL 25mg/mL

 

[Z499]

delete post, found the answer to the question i was asking

 

[Showstopper1969]

if your not coming off then there is no reason for a PCT. But there is a reason for an AI. PCT allows your test to come back up and recover AI is going to keep your body in check. Only way to know though is to get your blood work done.

A doc will put you on a shot of test c 200 every one to two weeks.

Thanks brother...decided to go ahead and pin for the first time...250mg twice a week, and I must say...
















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