test/tren cycle review

[am122766]

stats: 6'2 215 lbs 32 years old. I have ran two previous cycles a 500mg pw test only cycle and a test dbol cycle. now I am planning a test tren cycle.


here is my plan :
weeks 1-12 test e 600mg week
weeks 1-10 tren e 400 mg week
weeks 1-12 aromasin 25 mg ed

pct: 2 weeks after last pin
clomid 100/50/50/50
aromasin 25 mg ed
I will have caber ad nova on hand in case of side. I'm thinking this is a low enough dose of tren to avoid most sides and see how I tolerate It.
I am looking to lean out and increase strength I have a very clean diet lined up running 3500-4000 calories a day with 40/40/20 macro split.
also plan on shooting with the same pin.......how does this look? any suggestions/ changes??

 

[DaBeast25]

I'm someone who has yet to try Tren, but personally when I do I'll drop test to more of a maintenance level which seems to be a popular trend to reduce sides. Also, you might want to think about Tren Ace just in case sides are overwhelming you can reduce the dose or eliminate it faster. I'm generally a fan of short esters though...

will follow your thread to see what others say...

 

[VictorZ06]

Trade the tren for ace and bump the caloric and protein intake up a bit and you sound good to go! DaBeast was right about tren ace/enan...enan is the DEVIL!! Stay away from it unless you have done it enough times to know what your dose should be. I also prefer short ester compounds. You might want to use arimadex during cycle, and aromasin for PCT. You do need SOME estro.




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[am122766]

Can you do tren ace with test e or do I need to run prop?

 

[Glycomann]

I agree with these guys. Switch to Ace if you are going to do tren. It is really hard to nail the dose you can tolerate with the long ester. Tren is one of the strongest if not the strongest AAS. it is at least 5 times as strong as test and it binds to all sorts of steroid receptors so most everyone gets side effects. Shortness of breath, sweating profusely, night sweats, tren cough, general shit feeling.. but you grow on it and about 1/2 of guys really lean out on it. So it is a true double edged sword. IMO thre is no need to jump to Tren on the second cycle. Test/Deca or Test/equipoise would be more appropriate. Then for third something like Test/Deca/Winstrol or Teswt/Deca/Dbol. Feel each compound out one at a time as you advance from cycle to cycle. Save tren for later when you have worked all the more mild compounds and want to escalate gains again. You can gain just fine on less harch compounds at this point.

mio 2 centesimi

 

[VictorZ06]

^^Well said.^^ If you fuck up with tren enan and take too much....you are so fucked because all you can do is just wait it out. Some dumb ass I knew started taking 1gr of tren enan EW, he told me he just started 2 weeks ago and has never done tren. I told him he was in for one of the biggest nightmares of his life...didn't see him for a month, and when I saw him next....he said I was right and he was NEVER going to touch any kind of AAS again. The OP should know that ALL first time tren users should use ace this way they can fine tune their proper dose. You can't do that with enan. But to answer your question, yes....you can do tren ace with test e....you can put them in the same syringe if you want. Just remember that ace is best taken ED, but EOD works OK. Test e/c should be taken 2X a week.




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[SeattlesBest]

Id change the test E to Prop and shoot them bad boys together everyday. Maybe 250-300 test so my tool still works. 400 tren A you'd be good. Get caber just in case dem titties start growin lol

 

[am122766]

Ok so if I switch to tren ace that would be about 50mg ed. Would I need to wait 2 weeks after i start the test e to give it time to get into my system before starting the ace?

 

[am122766]

Bump

 

[SeattlesBest]

bump

 

[SoCalSwole]

Ok so if I switch to tren ace that would be about 50mg ed. Would I need to wait 2 weeks after i start the test e to give it time to get into my system before starting the ace?

If you wanted to play it super safe then yes. wait 2 weeks to start tren. The test is just there to make you feel somewhat normal during a tren cycle. So all you need is a trt dose. 250 a week is plenty. The advantage of switching to test P would be the test would build up much quicker and pretty much eliminate the chance that you would get some low libido and ED from the tren. But I doubt the 12 days or so it would take for test E to build up would be enough to mess you up. The tren A is quick but it still will take about 5 days before you can feel it. So it's only like 9 days that the tren will be hitting without the test. A gambling man would just start them both and tough it out for a week if the low test was an issue. Or everything would be fine and no harm no foul.

Worst thing that could happen is you would have like a week of shitty erections and low libido. then the test would kick in and you would be fine.

Some guys don't mind the low libido you can get from tren. Tren makes everything so intense anyway so its one less thing to freak about not worrying about Pussy.

 

[am122766]

Thanks bro!

 

[PELLETHEAD]

I've taken both kinds of tren for going on 15yrs. Tren Ace is a good start to feel out the product. With all the times I have done Tren (among lots of other things), I will say that the very first time I did ed shots, I literally had NO sides...except got really tired and sore from pinning ed. It's worth it at least once or twice until you really get a handle on the impact of the product. I have had some Bro's lose their minds and nearly beat people to death for no reason while amp'd up on TrenE. Lots of great advice up above-read and use the knowledge. Enjoy the gains and lean results too~

 

[jsmith1980]

I would definitely reduce your test to maintenance levels. The tren will take over. I feel like ur just wasting ur test and getting the nasty sides with higher test, when u don't need it. I'm currently running test c at 200mg a week to my tren e at 400mg per week. It's a great cycle for me. I've never had crazy problems with tren e. Guess u have to decide between ace and eth. I like not having to pin as often. I've seen great gains with minimal sides with my current cycle. Good luck.

 

[Tre]

Well you want to lean out, and increase strength..
Maybe something like:

Test p @ 200mg/wk for 12 wks
Tren a @ 500-600mg/wk for 10 wks
TNE @ 100mg ED for 12 wks

And keep your pct the same.

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