The things I get talked into doing......

[Robin Hood]

Hi Jodi!

Just want to start off by saying that you look great! What do you do to get your lower back looking so spectacular? I have a great upper back, but I am still trying to build up my lower back.

Robin

 

[Rocco32]

Wish I could help you with some advice Jodi, but I learn everything from you, LOL. I know you'll do it though. You've got awesome determination and drive.

I bought Lisa a dragonfly necklace for christmas. It's make with emeralds, I hope she likes it. She likes dragonflies alot also.

 

[Tom_B]

I don't count carbs on high carb day. That would defeat the purpose.

thats why is said change the diet around , you already were by trying to get rid of High Carb days completly.
Maybe you could try that for a week and see how things go and then if it dosen't work , try replacing the high carb days with Low Carb days (or 1 Low carb and the other No carb) . Last week when I had the surgery and couldn't exercise and I just stayed in bed I ate 5 Low carb days and 2 No carb days and ended up losing three pounds , but now this week after putting high carb days back in I've gained two pounds hopefully it's just some water

 

[Journey]

What if you kept the high carb days, but cut it down to 2 meals high carb? Would that work? Maybe i missed it, but why do you have to drop that weight this fast

 

[Jodi]

Hi Jodi!

Just want to start off by saying that you look great! What do you do to get your lower back looking so spectacular? I have a great upper back, but I am still trying to build up my lower back.

Robin

Hi Robin - I think my back I'm sort of lucky. Some people have good abs, I have a decent back I use to do ALOT of back work though because my back was a weak point. I did alot of deads, sldl, tbar row, rack pulls and weighted hypers. I still typically do one of these exercises once week too. Oh, and thank you

 

[Jodi]

Wish I could help you with some advice Jodi, but I learn everything from you, LOL. I know you'll do it though. You've got awesome determination and drive.

I bought Lisa a dragonfly necklace for christmas. It's make with emeralds, I hope she likes it. She likes dragonflies alot also.

Ooooohhhhhhh I want one too I have a braclet dragonfly braclet that I adore. Dragonflies are so beautiful, I'm sure she will love it and if not send it on my way

 

[Jodi]

thats why is said change the diet around , you already were by trying to get rid of High Carb days completly.
Maybe you could try that for a week and see how things go and then if it dosen't work , try replacing the high carb days with Low Carb days (or 1 Low carb and the other No carb) . Last week when I had the surgery and couldn't exercise and I just stayed in bed I ate 5 Low carb days and 2 No carb days and ended up losing three pounds , but now this week after putting high carb days back in I've gained two pounds hopefully it's just some water

It was just water gain. Don't worry about it. You always hold water with alot of carbs.

 

[Jodi]

What if you kept the high carb days, but cut it down to 2 meals high carb? Would that work? Maybe i missed it, but why do you have to drop that weight this fast

Hi Journey - If I was to cut it down to 2 meals than then I just as well off having a low carb day instead of a high carb day. I'm waiting for TP to answer and see his thoughts and to see if TCD has any suggestions.

I am competing in 14 weeks in a BB competition.

 

[aggies1ut]

Ooooohhhhhhh I want one too I have a braclet dragonfly braclet that I adore. Dragonflies are so beautiful, I'm sure she will love it and if not send it on my way

Hint at Scott for one.

 

[Journey]

Hi Journey - If I was to cut it down to 2 meals than then I just as well off having a low carb day instead of a high carb day. I'm waiting for TP to answer and see his thoughts and to see if TCD has any suggestions.

I am competing in 14 weeks in a BB competition.

Hey! Good luck in the competition!
It wouldn't be Exactly the same as a low carb day..if you did it on high carb days, because then you could eat until satisfied for 2 meals, instead of like trying to reach just 45 carbs a meal or whatever. Does that make since? I'm not sure if I explained what I ment.. like on low carb days, you aim for your body weight in carbs, like 1 gram a lb, but on high carb it doesn't matter how many you get.. So if you just ate until satisfied for 2 meals, instead of 4, you might get more than you would on low carb days, but not as many as you would on those 4 meals on high carb days. Ahh.. forget it..lol.. it's a no carb day for me..i'm brain dead.. I'm sure TP will help ya out.. i think i'm only confusing us all!
Anyway.. i'm sure you'll do great! You've got the dedication to do anything you set your mind to!

 

[Jodi]

No, I know what you mean but for me it would still be the same.

Think about it 1G per lb is 125. Because my carb sources are clean its not that easy to go over 125G in 2 meals because of the fiber filling me up. 1 cup of dry measured oats is 50G carbs. I can't eat much more than 1 cup of oats after its cooked in a sitting plus an apple. 1 C. cooked Brown rice is approx. 60G, same thing. I can't eat much more than that and an apple and and my protein and feel satisfied and not full. Make sense? So right there, I have approx. 110G Carbs and I didn't even reach my 125G yet. Now if I could have bagels and such then it would be easy The only thing I could do what you suggest with would be pasta and in 3 weeks all ww products go bye bye.

Typically my high carb days are around 200-225G of carbs. Divide that into 2 meals and we don't have what a low carb day equals.

Thank you all for your suggestions. Keep em coming please

And TP will help me, he is my coach so he better be listening.

 

[Journey]

I see whatcha mean... darn.. sorry I couldn't help more!

 

[sara]

Jodi, TP will figure something out

 

[Jodi]

High Carb Day

Don't feel like listing it all. WW Burrito, Oatmeal Pancakes, Kashi Go Lean Crunch, ww bread, brown rice etc.....

Workout: Legs

 

[Jodi]

Low Carb Day

Meal 1:
Pumpkin Muffins
Eggs
5 Fish

Meal 2:
Tuna
LC Bread
1 slice FF Cheese
Pumpkin Loaf
Lite Mayo
Green Beans

Meal 3:
Chix
2 oz. WW Pasta
1 LC Tortilla
2 T. Pesto

Meal 4:
6 oz. Cod
Asparagus
1 tsp. Flax

Meal 5:
35G Protein
1 oz. Nuts

Workout: Shoulders
Cardio: 10 mile run I stopped feeling my legs during this run.

 

[Jodi]

I'm still debating what to do. I may try a different diet all together. I just don't know yet but carb cycling for competition was easier last time. I lived alone and didn't have all sorts of shit around the house to tempt me. Scott has all sorts of crap and the high carb days are not going well for me because of this. I have will power and I do fine on low carb days but with high carb days being less restrictive I tend to eat some things that I shouldn't be eating.

I'm thinking of 2 options here. 1. Ditching high carb days and only having them when I feel tired, weak and need energy or 2. A new diet all together. Whatever I choose I have to do something soon. I've been dieting for 2 weeks now and I haven't dropped an ounce and I don't look any leaner. I should have at least looked a little leaner by now and I usually drop a few pounds in the first 2 weeks and nothing so far and I know it's because of the high carb day. I'm not binging, just eating some carbs that have no place in a competition diet.

 

[Rocco32]

Good luck with your decision! Wish I could help. When dieting I didn't feel I had luck with the high carb days physically or mentally.

 

[Journey]

Hey! I carb cycled for about 6 weeks. I lost a few lbs and a few inches, but I think I would of done the same if I just kept my calories steady all the time. I got alittle TOO drained on no carb days. I figured it was better to have energy every day and workout good everyday than feeling kinda shitty 3 days a week. This is only my 3rd day off cycling, and it's nice not to have those NO carb blues. I do think every now and then I'll throw in a day of no carbs, just to keep the body guessing. However, i know we are all different and you've got a competition and enough on your mind! (i'm married.. trust me..i understand about the junk laying around the house...my damn husband would make sandwiches on my no carb days... i've never been so close to killing someone for a slice of bread in my life...lol) Try not to stress out to much! You'll do great, whatever you decide to do!

 

[Rocco32]

Funny thing about being married and doing carb cycling is my wife ended up losing more weight than me, LOL. Since she eats what I cook, she was basically doing the same thing as me.

 

[Robboe]

I'm thinking of 2 options here. 1. Ditching high carb days and only having them when I feel tired, weak and need energy

Remember, refeeds are supposed to help stave off these types of days, not be utilised because of them. if you waited until these effects kick in, there's a fear you may run the risk of muscle loss and your body being a twat and holding onto the fat.

or 2. A new diet all together. Whatever I choose I have to do something soon. I've been dieting for 2 weeks now and I haven't dropped an ounce and I don't look any leaner. I should have at least looked a little leaner by now and I usually drop a few pounds in the first 2 weeks and nothing so far and I know it's because of the high carb day.

How many calories are you on right now?

I think things may significantly change once you stop doing the duration running after you complete your 1/2 marathon. I have a sneaky suspicion this may be csuing your current lack of fat loss (along with calorie intake).

 

[Robboe]

Oh, and a tip for your current high carbs days - make them more restrictive. Sounds like a silly idea and goes against the principle, but if you're eating shit you shouldn't, then just follow a normal days diet but with double (or triple) the amount of carbs per meal that you're currently eating. It'll just be like another day of dieting.

 

[Robboe]

Hi Journey - If I was to cut it down to 2 meals than then I just as well off having a low carb day instead of a high carb day. I'm waiting for TP to answer and see his thoughts and to see if TCD has any suggestions.

I am competing in 14 weeks in a BB competition.

If you really wanna try reducing the high carb days during the SD cycle, why not cycle them also, so you have a high carb day every 6th and then 9th day. Something to this effect.

 

[Jodi]

As far as cals, on no carb day they are about 1100, low carb day, 1600 and high carb over 2000. I know refeeds are suppose to help but to be quite honest I am not ready for a refeed/high carb day, every 4 days. I'm not lean enough yet to need one that often. I like the idea of one every 9 days instead which is what I was thinking of doing once i start SD.

My high carb days, for the most part are strict. I'm not eating any refined carbs but I'm eating too much dairy, WW and Whole grain products instead of oats and brown rice. That's the problem and I know it is.

I have 4 more weeks before the marathon. I'm so glad I'm not running the full. I barely made it to 10 miles so I know I would have never finished a full. I've reached my limit as to how many miles during training. There is no need to push it any further than 10 miles until the marathon itself.

 

[Tom_B]

only 2000 calories on High Carb days? , I eat 4000 calories

If you know that the problem on High carb days is that your not eating the proper carbs , then why don't you just start doing that :hmm: , just means you can make those apple oat cookies again , I made some adjustments by using peach meadley sauce and throwing in some soy poweder , then once then were done I sprinkled over them 2 packets of crystal light and 2 packet of stevia , my god they were they sour , think I'll only be using one packet of crystal light next time
Or just throw in a second no carb day into your spilt - kinda like No/High/No/Low instead of High/No/Low , besides if you limit your High carb days to once every 9 days this early what are you gonna do if you hit a plateau?

 

[Jodi]

LMAO - Thanks Tom but if it were that easy then I'd already be doing that Also, I do cycle as H/N/L/N. I can't have applesauce or ww wheat flour anyway.

Thanks for the tips but I'm ditching CC all together. This comp is too important to me to be fucking with High carb days so I'm just getting rid of them.

 

[Tom_B]

ok then , either way what ever you do your gonna look great Jodi

 

[Jodi]

Thanks, I appreciate everyone support and help.

I'm just overly stressed and I've found that the easiest way for me to diet while I'm stressed is to be extremely strict and counting cals for each day. I know that sounds weird but its the most effective way for me to function while dieting. If I have a day that I can "eat til satisfied" then I it's all over. Under normal conditions (IOW - not stressed) I have no problem with the high carb days but right now they are just screwing me up.

 

[aggies1ut]

So what type of diet will you now be following Jodi?

 

[Robboe]

The chocolate digestive diet.

 

[Robboe]

J, have you ever tried a basic iso diet with sub-maintenance calories?