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This thread will make you upset

it's weird this thread arose when it did. i had, just prior, seen a bullfight painting and thought it beautiful before my mind questioned the morality of owning such a thing. food for thought.
 
Little Wing said:
http://members.tripod.com/circle_of_sand/who.html

this is interesting, 27 pages of famous bullfighters. a lot of them died from gorings or complications from having been gored. the thing is there is such a history there and it's a part of their culture. i would just like to see it change with the times.

Hell ya, every now and again justice gets served.

These dudes obviously never heard the saying, 'fuck with the Bull and you'll get it's horns'.
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Little Wing said:
it's weird this thread arose when it did. i had, just prior, seen a bullfight painting and thought it beautiful before my mind questioned the morality of owning such a thing. food for thought.
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LW, was this painted on black velvet ? :funny:
 
GearsMcGilf said:
Maybe not a hero, but he def earned some respect. Perhaps a state funeral is in order.

It's really more of an art than a sport, just as much as painting, music, or dance. Although, since the bull does have a fair fighting chance, it's really kind of an artistic sport. I hear they're very exciting to see, much more so than watching on TV. Most of the haters change their tune after actually experiencing one. But, the "bloodless" bullfighting doesn't compare to the real thing. It's not even bull fighting. Might as well just call it dancing with the bulls.
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"However the Spanish bull is/was often subjected to being mistreated - such as being blinded, so as to give the matadore (the crowd favorite) the advantage..."

i would hardly call this sporting.
 
IronAddict said:
LW, was this painted on black velvet ? :funny:
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yes, colored in with those little tube painty things. would have matched my elvis one :daydream:



no, it was an oil and the colors were exquisite.
 
IronAddict said:
Hell ya, every now and again justice gets served.

These dudes obviously never heard the saying, 'fuck with the Bull and you'll get it's horns'.
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From the time they are little boys there were taught the bullfighter is the bravest of men, a great hero, and I'm sure they were very aware of the dangers. It's a cultural thing and to many it is a true art form. Like an opera of death. Still it is 2010... I'm a bit fascinated with the whole Gladiator thing but have noooooo desire to attend a match. Evolve already.
 
Little Wing said:
From the time they are little boys there were taught the bullfighter is the bravest of men, a great hero, and I'm sure they were very aware of the dangers. It's a cultural thing and to many it is a true art form. Like an opera of death. Still it is 2010... I'm a bit fascinated with the whole Gladiator thing but have noooooo desire to attend a match. Evolve already.
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Really? No desire. Thats a lie! The fact you even brought it up sneaks a peek into whats going on under the surface.

genetically, we are no different than the people of ancient roman times. You cannot cimply evolve out of your culture and this is culture to them. Inuits could survive if they didnt eat whale meat of course. We have Walmart now. But try telling THEM that. Its about culture.

One day, they'll look back on boxing as insanely brutal. Football will go that route as well. We're becoming something inhuman by becoming what we really arent. We are a violent, blood thirsty society cloaked under guilt ridden orgs like PETA, Greenpeace, Gay rights, the humane society.

Deep down, maybe not so deep, we want to throw the fags into a gladiator-like ring with hyenas and cheer on as they scream.
 
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Mr. Fantastico said:
Really? No desire. Thats a lie! The fact you even brought it up sneaks a peek into whats going on under the surface.

genetically, we are no different than the people of ancient roman times. You cannot cimply evolve out of your culture and this is culture to them. Inuits could survive if they didnt eat whale meat of course. We have Walmart now. But try telling THEM that. Its about culture.

One day, they'll look back on boxing as insanely brutal. Football will go that route as well. We're becoming something inhuman by becoming what we really arent. We are a violent, blood thirsty society cloaked under guilt ridden orgs like PETA, Greenpeace, Gay rights, the humane society.

Deep down, maybe not that so deep, we want to throw the fags into a gladiator-like ring with hyenas and cheer on as they scream.
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congratulation :clapping:

you just hit 100% on the wrong-o-meter. :nerd:
 
Little Wing said:
From the time they are little boys there were taught the bullfighter is the bravest of men, a great hero, and I'm sure they were very aware of the dangers. It's a cultural thing and to many it is a true art form. Like an opera of death. Still it is 2010... I'm a bit fascinated with the whole Gladiator thing but have noooooo desire to attend a match. Evolve already.
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Agree with the whole cultural thing, but they'll be having these matches along with things such as cock fighting until the sun burns out.
 
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Mr. Fantastico said:
Really? No desire. Thats a lie! The fact you even brought it up sneaks a peek into whats going on under the surface.

genetically, we are no different than the people of ancient roman times. You cannot cimply evolve out of your culture and this is culture to them. Inuits could survive if they didnt eat whale meat of course. We have Walmart now. But try telling THEM that. Its about culture.

One day, they'll look back on boxing as insanely brutal. Football will go that route as well. We're becoming something inhuman by becoming what we really arent. We are a violent, blood thirsty society cloaked under guilt ridden orgs like PETA, Greenpeace, Gay rights, the humane society.

Deep down, maybe not so deep, we want to throw the fags into a gladiator-like ring with hyenas and cheer on as they scream.
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I couldn't agree more. Deep down, we all love gore. We love the violence, the blood, the expressions of pain, and to witness horrors being inflicted on people other than ourselves. We are no different than people of ancient Rome in that respect. We love perverted sex and extreme violence, and if the two occur together, it's all the more enticing for many. We love it just as much as they did.

I'll even go out on a limb and speculate that if a real gladiator match were to be held somewhere in this country next week, the tickets would be sold out in a day. You would have wealthy people from all corners of the world flying in to see it and the rest of us would stay home to watch/masturbate to it on pay-per-view. We just have an innate desire to be better than others and deny what we truly are.
 
Sword fighter?
 
You're all a bunch of filthy bull-baiting jews!
 
Mr. Fantastico said:
Really? No desire. Thats a lie! The fact you even brought it up sneaks a peek into whats going on under the surface.

genetically, we are no different than the people of ancient roman times. You cannot cimply evolve out of your culture and this is culture to them. Inuits could survive if they didnt eat whale meat of course. We have Walmart now. But try telling THEM that. Its about culture.

One day, they'll look back on boxing as insanely brutal. Football will go that route as well. We're becoming something inhuman by becoming what we really arent. We are a violent, blood thirsty society cloaked under guilt ridden orgs like PETA, Greenpeace, Gay rights, the humane society.

Deep down, maybe not so deep, we want to throw the fags into a gladiator-like ring with hyenas and cheer on as they scream.
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GearsMcGilf said:
I couldn't agree more. Deep down, we all love gore. We love the violence, the blood, the expressions of pain, and to witness horrors being inflicted on people other than ourselves. We are no different than people of ancient Rome in that respect. We love perverted sex and extreme violence, and if the two occur together, it's all the more enticing for many. We love it just as much as they did.

I'll even go out on a limb and speculate that if a real gladiator match were to be held somewhere in this country next week, the tickets would be sold out in a day. You would have wealthy people from all corners of the world flying in to see it and the rest of us would stay home to watch/masturbate to it on pay-per-view. We just have an innate desire to be better than others and deny what we truly are.
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ok. so why don't you two don your gladiator garb and have a go at it? or is this all just talking out your ass bullshit?












you'd prob be watching on ppv whilst doing a little sword fighting of your own. :thinking:
 
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Mr. Fantastico said:
Really? No desire. Thats a lie! The fact you even brought it up sneaks a peek into whats going on under the surface.

genetically, we are no different than the people of ancient roman times. You cannot cimply evolve out of your culture and this is culture to them. Inuits could survive if they didnt eat whale meat of course. We have Walmart now. But try telling THEM that. Its about culture.

One day, they'll look back on boxing as insanely brutal. Football will go that route as well. We're becoming something inhuman by becoming what we really arent. We are a violent, blood thirsty society cloaked under guilt ridden orgs like PETA, Greenpeace, Gay rights, the humane society.

Deep down, maybe not so deep, we want to throw the fags into a gladiator-like ring with hyenas and cheer on as they scream.
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That is mostly garbage. There were countless societies going back to B.C. that were against violence and would consider us barbarians. Empathy and compassion is human. Anger and hatred is also human. It isn't a matter of humans evolving, so much as people of a society embracing the better side of humanity.

I agree that we haven't changed at all from the days of roman gladiators. Our DNA is the same today as the DNA of fossils dug up from about 200,000 years ago. However I don't agree that we all have an innate bloodlust. Everyone in my family hunted for fun. I couldn't kill an animal even for food as a child, much less for fun.

As far as I could tell I was genetically inclined to have compassion for lives of other species in a backwoods redneck town where nearly everyone hunted but me. I really got sick of the family reunion question of the day:

Redneck Family Members: "So, how many deer you kill this year boy'?
Me: "I don't hunt."
Redneck Family Members: :hmmm:
 
KelJu said:
That is mostly garbage. There were countless societies going back to B.C. that were against violence and would consider us barbarians. Empathy and compassion is human. Anger and hatred is also human. It isn't a matter of humans evolving, so much as people of a society embracing the better side of humanity.

I agree that we haven't changed at all from the days of roman gladiators. Our DNA is the same today as the DNA of fossils dug up from about 200,000 years ago. However I don't agree that we all have an innate bloodlust. Everyone in my family hunted for fun. I couldn't kill an animal even for food as a child, much less for fun.

As far as I could tell I was genetically inclined to have compassion for lives of other species in a backwoods redneck town where nearly everyone hunted but me. I really got sick of the family reunion question of the day:

Redneck Family Members: "So, how many deer you kill this year boy'?
Me: "I don't hunt."
Redneck Family Members: :hmmm:
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I'm the same way, but I got into Buddhism around 9 and it seemed to mesh better with my soul than the Southern Baptistry I was surrounded by, so not too many appreciated my valuation of every living creature... Luckily my father, even though he was a freshman dropout was a learned man and understood my stance, he still took me hunting every year, and I would sit in the woods for hours with my gun and just watch the animals. That way at least I learned how to hunt, and I helped him dress several deer and would know what to do if the necessity ever came.....

I also am not a rubbernecker who tries to see if I can see blood and carnage while driving by an accident....
 
Well, I just chowed down a nice 1/2" thick, cooked to perfection medium well T-bone steak. Prepared by yours truly and I purchased it from the butcher at Stater Bros.

I would never eat so well, if I had to hunt, kill, gut, skin then cook my meals!
 
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