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thoughts on summer cycle?

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Im planning on my cycle to start end of april beginning of may. I want good lean gains, but would settle for a little more size over hardness. I have much experience with steroids; just looking for some opinions. Im debating between two cycles:
stats: 5'8" 220lbs 12% BF (but cleaning up diet in anticipation of summer and cycles below).
#1
Test enanthate 500mg/week 12 weeks
EQ 600mg/week 12 weeks
Tbol 50mg/day weeks 1-4
Anavar 50mg/day weeks 8-12

#2
Test enanthate 500mg week 12 weeks
Tren E 300 mg/week 8-10 weeks depending on how im tolerating it ( seems diff everytime)
Tbol 50mg/day week weeks 1-4
Anavar 50mg/day weeks 8-12

will run aromasin during cycle and into pct. pct base will be clomid. will also run hcg during cycle starting week 2. have nova on hand if needed but prefer not to go there. will run igf during pct.

questions other than which cycle would include: do u think winny 50mg/ed would be better than the anavar? if i ran the anavar could i continue it for the two weeks between my last inj and start of pct ( i have heard of ppl doing this)? also i prefer to keep my cycles at 12 weeks but if its absolutely necessary i would extend option 1 with the eq to 14 weeks.

thanks guys
 
Would choose option no 2 only because Eq should be run for at least 16 wks minimum, it looks like you'll be first -time user with tren, you should go with the acetate esther to assess your tolerance but at that dose i don't think you'll have problems!Winny is a no-no for me,too much sides vs benefits but i love anavar, i think you should go with 75mg ed and in this case,more is better,100mg will produce dramatic results and your belly will like it!
 
^^ this! Good call fredlabrute I really agree with the anavar. Tren enth I think wouldn't be that bad at that lower dose just my opinion though
 
I agree with Fredlabrute, I would use option 2 as EQ makes me want to eat constantly so I don't use it for leaning out. I would stick with Tbol or Anavar but not both.(I prefer Tbol) If you choose to use var though 80-100 a day is the way to go.
 
Im planning on my cycle to start end of april beginning of may. I want good lean gains, but would settle for a little more size over hardness. I have much experience with steroids; just looking for some opinions. Im debating between two cycles:
stats: 5'8" 220lbs 12% BF (but cleaning up diet in anticipation of summer and cycles below).
#1
Test enanthate 500mg/week 12 weeks
EQ 600mg/week 12 weeks
Tbol 50mg/day weeks 1-4
Anavar 50mg/day weeks 8-12

#2
Test enanthate 500mg week 12 weeks
Tren E 300 mg/week 8-10 weeks depending on how im tolerating it ( seems diff everytime)
Tbol 50mg/day week weeks 1-4
Anavar 50mg/day weeks 8-12

will run aromasin during cycle and into pct. pct base will be clomid. will also run hcg during cycle starting week 2. have nova on hand if needed but prefer not to go there. will run igf during pct.

questions other than which cycle would include: do u think winny 50mg/ed would be better than the anavar? if i ran the anavar could i continue it for the two weeks between my last inj and start of pct ( i have heard of ppl doing this)? also i prefer to keep my cycles at 12 weeks but if its absolutely necessary i would extend option 1 with the eq to 14 weeks.

thanks guys
cycle 2 is almost the same as one i will run summer but i dumped tren and using primo but u better trust your source if u go after primo.var bridge to pct is cool its not as suppressive as you think
 
I would run number 1 . EQ doeen't need to be run 16 weeks to be effective. 12 weeks is fine actually I would start the eq 1 week prior to the test and start the tbol at the same time as eq. Now here is where some options come in I am going to break it down as to what I would do. I ran a cycle with var at the end and definetly recmmend it over winny but you may want to move the dose up between 50-80mg. Ok so here it goes.
Wk 1-12 EQ 600mg (which is a great dose for most by the way)
Wk 1-4 (5) Tbol 50mgs good lean kick start like the choice for summer
Wk 2-13 Test enanthate 500mgs /week
Wk 9 (10)-14 var 50-80mgs a day You can start this either wk 9 or 10 depending

Start the EQ early so you can end it a week before test but still run for 12 weeks this way it will clear your body around the same time as the test so you can start PCT. The tbol can be run from the first week for either 4 or 5 weeks depending what you want to do or how you feel. Test is your base. The var can be run either5 or 6 weeks from wk 9-14 or 15 ; or wk 10-15 then start PCT. This should result in much improvement in vascularity along with lean gains and if you eat right fat loss. I think this is the best choice for a summer stack sorry there are so many choices but it all depends on what you want to do after all it is your cycle enjoy.
 
If you are going to run both var and tbol make sure you start a liver support supp 1-2 weeks before cycle and continue until 2 weeks into PCT.
 
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