To much fat in diet or?

[pimprn]

i am trying to gain some muscle mass and really trying to nail my diet its been taking me years so far to do this its probably one of the hardest things to do i am thinking. Heres what i have eaten so far today:

Grams Calories %-Cals
Calories 3,885
Fat 209.3 1,834 47 %
Saturated 46.8 413 11 %
Polyunsaturated 33.4 289 7 %
Monounsaturated 88.0 764 20 %
Carbohydrate 286.4 1,147 30 %
Dietary Fiber 39.5
Protein 224.6 888 23 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

 

[Built]

How much over maintenance is this?

 

[ceazur]

I don't know ,but I take in more protein then you at around 2k calories a day.. It looks like a lot of unneeded stuff to me ,but I'm no pro.

 

[FMJ]

Am I reading this correctly? 209 grams of fat? 47% of your entire caloric intake?
Yeah, I would say that's too much fat in your diet.
Figure out what your maintainence calories would be, then from there start by adding 500 calories. Aim for 1-1.5 grams of protein for each pound of LBM, 2-3 grams of carbs per pound of LBM and then let fat make up the rest. It should give you a good starting point. Adjust from there after a few weeks depending on what the scale is doing.

 

[pimprn]

i dont know what my maintenance calories are but i am a 150lb guy 5'7 so im guess 2000-2500 a good portion of those fat cals are made up of mixed nuts i have eaten. 1/2 check out how much fat that gives ya,.

 

[Built]

Am I reading this correctly? 209 grams of fat? 47% of your entire caloric intake?
Yeah, I would say that's too much fat in your diet.
Figure out what your maintainence calories would be, then from there start by adding 500 calories. Aim for 1-1.5 grams of protein for each pound of LBM, 2-3 grams of carbs per pound of LBM and then let fat make up the rest. It should give you a good starting point. Adjust from there after a few weeks depending on what the scale is doing.

Why do you think it's too much fat? I eat more fat grams than protein grams. If you look at the percentage, my diet lately has been 130g fat, 120g protein, and about 50g carb.

 

[FMJ]

Why do you think it's too much fat? I eat more fat grams than protein grams. If you look at the percentage, my diet lately has been 130g fat, 120g protein, and about 50g carb.

I just think that it's excessive. It's nearly half his intake. I can see taking in more fat than protein, not something I would do to make muscle gains but I can understand it for other reasons but more fat than carbs? If you're trying to make muscle gains, what sense does that make?

Of course, I'm going on the assumtion (based on the admission of it taking years to get diet nailed down) that the OP isn't very lean to begin with.
Also, aren't you currently on a "get rid of muscle" thing right now?

 

[pimprn]

FMJ i had electrodes hooked up to me and im 13% BF i need to get a little bit more fat on me but to be honest its harder for me to gain fat then muscle because i do not really like sweets or junkfood really. The only thing i really eat that is not good for the diet is mcdonalds but thats rare.......

 

[DaMayor]

I just think that it's excessive. It's nearly half his intake. I can see taking in more fat than protein, not something I would do to make muscle gains but I can understand it for other reasons but more fat than carbs? If you're trying to make muscle gains, what sense does that make?

Of course, I'm going on the assumtion (based on the admission of it taking years to get diet nailed down) that the OP isn't very lean to begin with.
Also, aren't you currently on a "get rid of muscle" thing right now?

I think B's point is that as long as minimum protein requirements are being met, the fat/carb ratio depends more on the individual. While it's cool to replentish carbs/glycogen stores while dieting for extended periods, carbs aren't entirely necessary for muscle gain.

Come on man, didn't you read the book!?!

 

[DaMayor]

The only thing i really eat that is not good for the diet is mcdonalds but thats rare.......

 

[ceazur]

Oh well I also thought that was too much fat. Shows my true knowledge I guess. As long as your getting the minimum protein I guess that is the main priority. I guess the best thing would be to try out what you have going there for a week or two then modify your diet accordingly.

 

[FMJ]

Come on man, didn't you read the book!?!

I only looked at the pictures.

That's true. I guess it really comes down to the individual and I didn't realize that 23% of the protein still came out to 225 grams. I know I would look like that pudgy little hamburgler if I ate 50% fat in my diet.

 

[Built]

I only looked at the pictures.

That's true. I guess it really comes down to the individual and I didn't realize that 23% of the protein still came out to 225 grams.

And this, my friends, is why I abhor a percentage based approach to diet. It tells you NOTHING.

I know I would look like that pudgy little hamburgler if I ate 50% fat in my diet.

No, you would not. Not unless you maintained a surplus in excess of what gains your muscles could support.

 

[FMJ]

No, you would not. Not unless you maintained a surplus in excess of what gains your muscles could support.

Well, not only that, doesn't it heavilly depend on my idividual metabolic state? Let's say 50% of my diet was comprised of fat.. let's even go so far as to say that 75% of that fat are MCT's. I would still have to choose the consumtion of those fats so carefully to ensure that that they were released into the blood as opposed to stored.
At the very least, the other 25% of my consumed fat, in this case 50 or so grams each day are gonna be stored.
Personally, I would rather have the fighting chance of consuming the carbs and having them be used for something.

 

[DaMayor]

I know I would look like that pudgy little hamburgler if I ate 50% fat in my diet.

I don't know, you might be a little surprised.

In addition, fat found in.....

DaMayor, Master of stating the obvious.

 

[FMJ]

I don't know, you might be a little surprised.

In addition, fat found in.....

DaMayor, Master of stating the obvious.

Thank you captain Obvious... LOL

 

[FMJ]

Well, not only that, doesn't it heavilly depend on my idividual metabolic state? Let's say 50% of my diet was comprised of fat.. let's even go so far as to say that 75% of that fat are MCT's. I would still have to choose the consumtion of those fats so carefully to ensure that that they were released into the blood as opposed to stored.
At the very least, the other 25% of my consumed fat, in this case 50 or so grams each day are gonna be stored.
Personally, I would rather have the fighting chance of consuming the carbs and having them be used for something.

Built? What do you think? Am I way off base here? I'm curious because this is all a learning experience.. I wanna be sure my logic isn't completely screwed up. It's entirely possible with all the exposure I've had to Marcus!

 

[DaMayor]

Built? What do you think? Am I way off base here? I'm curious because this is all a learning experience.. I wanna be sure my logic isn't completely screwed up. It's entirely possible with all the exposure I've had to Marcus!

Hey Hey! I'll have you know that my sense of reasoning and/or thought processes transcend all that is logical. Why do you think I hang out here? Obviously, so I am only required to used a smallish percentage of my (vast) mental faculties.

That's why Built left the thread....she could see the storm of genius brewing in the distance; and knew that she, if exposed to the untethered, incomprehensible realm that is the free thought of DaMayor, would surely go insane.

Or I could just e-mail her some nekked pics of myself...same effect.

 

[FMJ]

Hey Hey! I'll have you know that my sense of reasoning and/or thought processes transcend all that is logical. Why do you think I hang out here? Obviously, so I am only required to used a smallish percentage of my (vast) mental faculties.

That's why Built left the thread....she could see the storm of genius brewing in the distance; and knew that she, if exposed to the untethered, incomprehensible realm that is the free thought of DaMayor, would surely go insane.

Or I could just e-mail her some nekked pics of myself...same effect.

 

[DaMayor]

Do you have a headache? You must not be eating enough fat.

 

[Built]

Checks email...

 

[FMJ]

Do you have a headache? You must not be eating enough fat.

No, it's for you. I just assumed all those big words gave you a migraine.

 

[pimprn]

hahahah so you guys are saying basically its each individuals own metabolic rate and adjust until you find the sweet spot. Haha