to much volume for back?

[Rpn1984]

i was going to do 4 sets of bent over rows and 4 sets of pulldowns does that sound like to much volume im going to failure on every set

 

[Cardinal]

Volume looks perfectly fine to me. Going to failure or not should be considered as a separate issue imo.

 

[LAM]

IMO, you can easily do 15-20 sets for back and legs

 

[Mudge]

8 sets for back sounds like nothing, and only 2 movements? Just think how many people do more than that for biceps.

 

[CowPimp]

If you're going to do 8 sets, I might only do the last set of each exercise to failure, or something like that. The rest I would stop one short.

 

[Tough Old Man]

On back day I perform 23 sets that day for back only.

 

[Cardinal]

I think I need to get my work capacity up some!

 

[GFR]

Back is the one muscle I need to hit allot of sets on, same with deltoids, for example:
Chest 8 sets
Lats ( Back) 15 sets
quads 6 or 7 sets
calves 1 set
biceps 5 sets
triceps 4 sets
deltoids 12 sets
traps 3 sets
hamstrings 6 sets

 

[Tha Don]

If you're going to do 8 sets, I might only do the last set of each exercise to failure, or something like that. The rest I would stop one short.

agreed

i only take my last sets to failiure right now, as i'm going high volume while on cycle, hitting that extra rep and going to failiure on my first set, might end up costing me 2-3 reps on my 2nd, 3rd and 4th sets, if you are doing quite a few sets of an exercise i'd limit going to failiure on the last set only

 

[Tough Old Man]

Back is the one muscle I need to hit allot of sets on, same with deltoids, for example:
Chest 8 sets
Lats ( Back) 15 sets
quads 6 or 7 sets
calves 1 set
biceps 5 sets
triceps 4 sets
deltoids 12 sets
traps 3 sets
hamstrings 6 sets

Damn you Eric must be nice to only have to hit the tri and bi 9 sets total

 

[GFR]

Damn you Eric must be nice to only have to hit the tri and bi 9 sets total

After 15 sets of back my biceps and fried so 5 sets is all I need.
I never even trained triceps until I was already benching 300, I think my triceps get allot of work on all the pressing movements I do.

I have a question for you big, do you think it matters if you do high reps (12-15) to avoid injures . My fu-king chest just cant stand the 5-6 rep range at all, I was thinking of just doing 12+ reps on bench and incline from now on to avoid anymore problems?

 

[drew.haynes]

Hey foreman... what are the 12 sets you do on deltoids? Just out of curiosity... and how does it work for you?

 

[GFR]

Hey foreman... what are the 12 sets you do on deltoids? Just out of curiosity... and how does it work for you?

I do 4 sets of side cable latterals 10-12 reps. 3 sets of DB press seated 7-9 reps and 3 sets of rear delt cable latterals 12-15 reps, 2 or 3 sets of upright rows 8-10 reps( hits deltoids too) and 2 sets of shrugs 10 reps. The upright rows really fry my deltoids, haven't done them in years...Now I'll never stop. Plus I do 2 sets of side laterals 30-40 reps, on my back day ( about 3 days after delt day).

 

[Tough Old Man]

I do 4 sets of side cable latterals 10-12 reps. 3 sets of DB press seated 7-9 reps and 3 sets of rear delt cable latterals 12-15 reps, 2 or 3 sets of upright rows 8-10 reps( hits deltoids too) and 2 sets of shrugs 10 reps. The upright rows really fry my deltoids, haven't done them in years...Now I'll never stop. Plus I do 2 sets of side laterals 30-40 reps, on my back day ( about 3 days after delt day).

shit eric because of my torn left rotator cuff, I can hardly do full range bench with 150 lbs. just kills me. So about 3 weeks ago I set the pins on my smith machine where i only come down about 6". I now do 5 reps with as heavy weight as i can barely getting the 5 reps. Doing it that way doesn't bother the cuff at all. tell you one thing though for some reason Db's don't bother me to much. Those heavy partials seemed to make me stronger lately. I do 150% my 1 x max rep on partial bench increasing it 5 lbs a session. It's working for me
This week I'll do incl the same way, heavy partial reps