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Very Interesting...
BTW.. I dont consider 125 for BB curls for 6 reps "pretty weak"
BTW.. I dont consider 125 for BB curls for 6 reps "pretty weak"
Day 5: Another interesting workout, to say the least. First off, weight was up tp 225. That is 3 pounds and exactly what I expected the increase to be from increased food (water weight and bloat, food in the gut, etc.). So anything from this point on (assuming this stuff is dry) will be new tissue of some sort (fat or muscle). So the fun begins. I will take all new stats on Sat morning, which will be one full week. Tomorrow I will up the dose to 50.
Yet again, this morning I had a very good workout. Endurance was very good, but today was not as many sets. Today was back and tris. It is my second back workout (recall that I did that on Monday) so I was now on 7 sets per exercise. Normally I would like at least 2 says rest, but my schedule broke down this way for certain bodyparts, unfortunately. It was also my first tri workout, so it was six sets -- seven sets will be on Friday.
Now, go back to Monday (Day 3s) post, because the comparison is very enlightening. Recall that my strength was not terrific. So I would expect (normally) a slight increase in strength. On the other hand, I only had one day rest, so its possible I might even be weaker (I recover slowly which is why I normally only hit each BP once per week). I should also note that my bis are well sore, and this effected my back workout, especially the barbell rows
So here was Monday's pulldowns versus today's:
..............Day 3.......Day 5 (today)
Set 1: 220 x 8......220 x 12
Set 2: 220 x 6......220 x 9
Set 3: 200 x 8......220 x 7
Set 4: 200 x 6......200 x 8
Set 5: 180 x 7......200 x 6
Set 6: 180 x 6......180 x 8
Set 7: ...................180 x 6
Conclusion: I like this stuff. Lets see if it translates to body composition. Sunday is my next back workout and I am dying to see the results after sufficient rest.
I did tri pressdowns between those sets. 6 sets. I used 130 on the stack, which I expected to be light at first and get very heavy by the end. Here is what happened:
V-bar Tri Pressdown
130 x 10, 12,13,14,12, 10
This is obviously way to light, I'll be bumoing it quite a bit on Friday.
Then I did barbell rows. This were better than friday, but 225 still felt heavy. It was not as dramatic of a strength jump, but I attribute that to the fact that I was wiped out, and my bis really were a limiting factor. Monday's bi workout must of done a number on them. And tomorrow is bis, so we shall see.
Barbell Rows:
..............Day 3.......Day 5 (today)
Set 1: 225 x 6......225 x 7
Set 2: 205 x 8......225 x 6
Set 3: 205 x 8......205 x 8
Set 4: 185 x 8......205 x 8
Set 5: 185 x 8......185 x 6
Set 6: 185 x 6......185 x 6
Set 7: ....................185 x 6
In between these I did one arm overhead DB extensions. Here was the w/o:
40 x 10, 8, 10, 10, 10, 8
Subjective Notes: Still very little subjectively to report. I do not feel any different, sleep is normal, everything is pretty much normal. I feel very good, and am no longer achy. Soreness is high (which is normal). If there is any questions on this, please ask away.
Yet again, this morning I had a very good workout. Endurance was very good, but today was not as many sets. Today was back and tris. It is my second back workout (recall that I did that on Monday) so I was now on 7 sets per exercise. Normally I would like at least 2 says rest, but my schedule broke down this way for certain bodyparts, unfortunately. It was also my first tri workout, so it was six sets -- seven sets will be on Friday.
Now, go back to Monday (Day 3s) post, because the comparison is very enlightening. Recall that my strength was not terrific. So I would expect (normally) a slight increase in strength. On the other hand, I only had one day rest, so its possible I might even be weaker (I recover slowly which is why I normally only hit each BP once per week). I should also note that my bis are well sore, and this effected my back workout, especially the barbell rows
So here was Monday's pulldowns versus today's:
..............Day 3.......Day 5 (today)
Set 1: 220 x 8......220 x 12
Set 2: 220 x 6......220 x 9
Set 3: 200 x 8......220 x 7
Set 4: 200 x 6......200 x 8
Set 5: 180 x 7......200 x 6
Set 6: 180 x 6......180 x 8
Set 7: ...................180 x 6
Conclusion: I like this stuff. Lets see if it translates to body composition. Sunday is my next back workout and I am dying to see the results after sufficient rest.
I did tri pressdowns between those sets. 6 sets. I used 130 on the stack, which I expected to be light at first and get very heavy by the end. Here is what happened:
V-bar Tri Pressdown
130 x 10, 12,13,14,12, 10
This is obviously way to light, I'll be bumoing it quite a bit on Friday.
Then I did barbell rows. This were better than friday, but 225 still felt heavy. It was not as dramatic of a strength jump, but I attribute that to the fact that I was wiped out, and my bis really were a limiting factor. Monday's bi workout must of done a number on them. And tomorrow is bis, so we shall see.
Barbell Rows:
..............Day 3.......Day 5 (today)
Set 1: 225 x 6......225 x 7
Set 2: 205 x 8......225 x 6
Set 3: 205 x 8......205 x 8
Set 4: 185 x 8......205 x 8
Set 5: 185 x 8......185 x 6
Set 6: 185 x 6......185 x 6
Set 7: ....................185 x 6
In between these I did one arm overhead DB extensions. Here was the w/o:
40 x 10, 8, 10, 10, 10, 8
Subjective Notes: Still very little subjectively to report. I do not feel any different, sleep is normal, everything is pretty much normal. I feel very good, and am no longer achy. Soreness is high (which is normal). If there is any questions on this, please ask away.
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I'll just re-iterate what I said yesterday. No way is this placebo or coincidence or muscle memory or anything else like that. Not on one of your 6-set and 7-set Volume Phase days, and especially not since you didn't take a day off in-between (i.e. working out 3 straight days on the Volume Phase).
When I did my 1st cycle of your Tri-Phase Training, I was using M-Dien during the last 3 weeks of the Volume Phase (the 5-set work-out thru the 10-set work-out). I did notice a slight increase in recovery in-between days, and less soreness in-between work-outs. But I was also performing split AM/PM sessions for the final 3 weeks of the Volume Phase, and even then, I did not experience strength increases. Or any increases in endurance, as each work-out was pushing me to the edge.
So I would have to attribute (at least) something to the SuperDrol, which is good, especially considering it seems to have kicked in so quickly. Maybe there is finally a compound that will work on you even. I'll be curious to see how tomorrow's work-out goes.
When I did my 1st cycle of your Tri-Phase Training, I was using M-Dien during the last 3 weeks of the Volume Phase (the 5-set work-out thru the 10-set work-out). I did notice a slight increase in recovery in-between days, and less soreness in-between work-outs. But I was also performing split AM/PM sessions for the final 3 weeks of the Volume Phase, and even then, I did not experience strength increases. Or any increases in endurance, as each work-out was pushing me to the edge.
So I would have to attribute (at least) something to the SuperDrol, which is good, especially considering it seems to have kicked in so quickly. Maybe there is finally a compound that will work on you even. I'll be curious to see how tomorrow's work-out goes.
Twin Peak said:
Sweet Christ on a moped. You maintained strength like that for seven full sets?! How close to failure do you train?
Love it when shit like this happens, but yeah, too light was the cry.
What is your weekly split, Steve? I didn't realised you trained bodyparts with such frequency.
TCD said:
TCD, you do have a way with words!
TP, do you have a link to any info on SuperDrol?
Cap'n do a few searches on anabolicminds.com.
Rob, with the Volume Phase, its each bodypart twice a week. There should be at least 2 days rest between bodyparts, but I screwed that one.
Rob, with the Volume Phase, its each bodypart twice a week. There should be at least 2 days rest between bodyparts, but I screwed that one.
Well shit, i was wondering what happened to this journal. I didnt realize you were still keeping one here untill i saw it mentioned in your duplicate journal at AL. Yeah... i dont visit this subforum much.
Awesome progress w/ sledge's new methyl. Dare i say something might actually be working on you...??
Awesome progress w/ sledge's new methyl. Dare i say something might actually be working on you...??
Day 7: Weight was up another 1/2 pound (4.5 total) and stomach held steady (still up 1/2 inch). I really didn't eat so clean yesterday, but I got in plenty o carbs and protein. This workout is at the point where i am really getting my ass kicked regularly. Still, I am holding up fairly well. Okay, so today was supposed to be chest, quads and tris. Tris were still a bit sore, and that would have been 42 working sets, so I decided to drop tris. I was not looking forward to this workout. Strength was good, but there was no big jump in strength. In fact, for crossovers and extensions, I was pretty much on par, except I did an extra set of each.
Then came squats. I pretty much did the same as last time, except the weight (315) felt heavier and my first set I only got 6 reps instead of 10. The rest of the sets were the same as Tuesday or one rep better, plus an extra set.
For incline bench presses, I actually had nice improvement there:
..............Day 4.......Day 6 (today)
Set 1: 245 x 14......245 x 15
Set 2: 245 x 11......245 x 12
Set 3: 245 x 10......245 x 10
Set 4: 245 x 7........245 x 8
Set 5: 225 x 8........225 x 12
Set 6: 225 x 6........225 x 8
Set 7: .....................225 x 6
The improvement was particularly good at the end, so endurance was nice. Now, if it wasn't for my shoulder injury, I would not be going so light. I would prefer the first set to be in the 10 rep range, like the other exercises, but I don't really want to go much heavier.
So there I was, all finished, 287 grueling working sets (7 sets of squats and incline presses each really take their toll) and huffing and puffing. And the soreness in my tris were gone. I rested five minutes and then did my 14 working sets of tris. I got in a zone and a second wind, and went at it. Strength was about the same as last time, but again, there was progression because I added two working sets.
The plan then, is to eat a ton today, to help recover from that stupid volume, and then eat light-ish tomorrow my off day. Thank f-ing god for an off day. I really need to get in the hot tub tonight, and get a good night sleep.
Today I was a bit warm, nothing else to report.
Then came squats. I pretty much did the same as last time, except the weight (315) felt heavier and my first set I only got 6 reps instead of 10. The rest of the sets were the same as Tuesday or one rep better, plus an extra set.
For incline bench presses, I actually had nice improvement there:
..............Day 4.......Day 6 (today)
Set 1: 245 x 14......245 x 15
Set 2: 245 x 11......245 x 12
Set 3: 245 x 10......245 x 10
Set 4: 245 x 7........245 x 8
Set 5: 225 x 8........225 x 12
Set 6: 225 x 6........225 x 8
Set 7: .....................225 x 6
The improvement was particularly good at the end, so endurance was nice. Now, if it wasn't for my shoulder injury, I would not be going so light. I would prefer the first set to be in the 10 rep range, like the other exercises, but I don't really want to go much heavier.
So there I was, all finished, 287 grueling working sets (7 sets of squats and incline presses each really take their toll) and huffing and puffing. And the soreness in my tris were gone. I rested five minutes and then did my 14 working sets of tris. I got in a zone and a second wind, and went at it. Strength was about the same as last time, but again, there was progression because I added two working sets.
The plan then, is to eat a ton today, to help recover from that stupid volume, and then eat light-ish tomorrow my off day. Thank f-ing god for an off day. I really need to get in the hot tub tonight, and get a good night sleep.
Today I was a bit warm, nothing else to report.
Okay, this is what I have been waiting for. Today is day 8, and I took stats first thing this morning, and, well, all I can say is I am pleased.
...............Day 1.......Day 8
Weight: ....222.........226.5
Waist: ......41"..........41"
Left arm: .17 1/4"......17 3/4"
Right arm:.17 3/8"......17 3/4"
Left calf: .16 1/4"......16 1/12"
Left calf: .16 3/4"......17"
Stomach: .28 mm......27 mm
Leg: ........18 mm......18 mm
Chest: .....16 mm......15 mm
BF%: ......18.6%.......18.3%
LBM:....... 180.7.......185
FM: ........41.3.........41.5
Now, recall that I expected to add about 3 pounds of "stuff" (bloat, food in the gut, glycogen, etc.). But I am still up a solid 4.5 pounds in 7 days, and while some of this is the extra food, I have clearly gained appreciable muscle -- and this is in on friggin week. While stomach stayed the same, arms and calves increased appreciably.
Now, if I wanted to play the nay-sayer, I could argue that this is just increased glycogen stores. Perhaps. We will see what happens in week 2, and what remains after.
...............Day 1.......Day 8
Weight: ....222.........226.5
Waist: ......41"..........41"
Left arm: .17 1/4"......17 3/4"
Right arm:.17 3/8"......17 3/4"
Left calf: .16 1/4"......16 1/12"
Left calf: .16 3/4"......17"
Stomach: .28 mm......27 mm
Leg: ........18 mm......18 mm
Chest: .....16 mm......15 mm
BF%: ......18.6%.......18.3%
LBM:....... 180.7.......185
FM: ........41.3.........41.5
Now, recall that I expected to add about 3 pounds of "stuff" (bloat, food in the gut, glycogen, etc.). But I am still up a solid 4.5 pounds in 7 days, and while some of this is the extra food, I have clearly gained appreciable muscle -- and this is in on friggin week. While stomach stayed the same, arms and calves increased appreciably.
Now, if I wanted to play the nay-sayer, I could argue that this is just increased glycogen stores. Perhaps. We will see what happens in week 2, and what remains after.
it feels fantastic, i go back to work a month sooner then expected..Twin Peak said:
doc has let me loose in the gym, light wts of course..
but all in all i'm very happy!!!
245 for 15 is great!
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I think he's keeping like 4 logs... probably just hasnt had the time to update this one.
Check here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=205170#post205170
Check here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=205170#post205170
Only three. That one is the most updated, because those folks are the most interested in the superdrol.
This journal is the one that will detail all the way through crushing Camaro.
Just a summary -- tomorrow is my last day of the volume cycle. I am off Fri- Sun, then I will be doing an "in between" week. 4 workouts, half body each w/o with heavy weights, shy of failure, and low volume. Then the next week begins a 5 week intensity cycle.
Right now I am very close to my pre-injury mass, which was my largest ever. I am just fatter now. After my 5 week intensity cycle, I will begin a cut of some sort.
Strength right now is through the roof. So all is right in the world.
This journal is the one that will detail all the way through crushing Camaro.
Just a summary -- tomorrow is my last day of the volume cycle. I am off Fri- Sun, then I will be doing an "in between" week. 4 workouts, half body each w/o with heavy weights, shy of failure, and low volume. Then the next week begins a 5 week intensity cycle.
Right now I am very close to my pre-injury mass, which was my largest ever. I am just fatter now. After my 5 week intensity cycle, I will begin a cut of some sort.
Strength right now is through the roof. So all is right in the world.
5 weeks?
So the cut starts in the new year? Time it to start around the 2nd or 3rd of Jan and we can have a mini-competition. I'm only gonna last for 6 weeks though, cause i don't want dieting affecting my work.
So the cut starts in the new year? Time it to start around the 2nd or 3rd of Jan and we can have a mini-competition. I'm only gonna last for 6 weeks though, cause i don't want dieting affecting my work.
I am looking at the bigger picture. I don't want to get leaner than say 12%, I'd rather gain muscle. So lets see how fat I am come the new year, but I expect I will need 8 weeks, unless I do some form of Quick Cut in there.
When does this IM comp end? I guess 9 weeks out from that would be a good time to start an 8 week Carb Cycle.
When does this IM comp end? I guess 9 weeks out from that would be a good time to start an 8 week Carb Cycle.
