UD2 Carbup -- Dextrose & Maltodextrin

[kyoun1e]

I'm heading for UD2 carbup tmrw and this time around I'm looking to keep my carbup light. I intend on being around people / social and I'd like to avoid feeling super full and worse, gasey. Usually I pound bagels and white rice, but this time I'd like to go say, 50% bagels and 50% liquid carbs via either dextrose or maltodextrin.

Question: Is there benefits / drawbacks to using either dextrose or maltodextrin via shake?

One thing I notice: Sugar. Dextrose is like pure sugar and I know you are suppose to keep sucrose to 100g during carbup. My Carbo Gain (100% maltodextrin) has only 2g of sugar per 47 carbs.

If someone could help me out that would be great. I'd plan on alternating a liquid carb meal with a non-liquid carb meal all day tmrw.

Thanks.

KY

 

[kyoun1e]

I'm heading for UD2 carbup tmrw and this time around I'm looking to keep my carbup light. I intend on being around people / social and I'd like to avoid feeling super full and worse, gasey. Usually I pound bagels and white rice, but this time I'd like to go say, 50% bagels and 50% liquid carbs via either dextrose or maltodextrin.

Question: Is there benefits / drawbacks to using either dextrose or maltodextrin via shake?

One thing I notice: Sugar. Dextrose is like pure sugar and I know you are suppose to keep sucrose to 100g during carbup. My Carbo Gain (100% maltodextrin) has only 2g of sugar per 47 carbs.

If someone could help me out that would be great. I'd plan on alternating a liquid carb meal with a non-liquid carb meal all day tmrw.

Thanks.

KY

A followup question...anyone know how many grams of dextrose in your run of the mill whey scoop? I'm thinking 40ish.

Thanks.

KY

 

[the_leprechaun]

hey ky, is this your second cycle?? im considering going back onto my next cycle and was wondering what you did inbetween cuts? did you do any bulking, or gain much weight/bf?? sorry for going off topic!

 

[Yanick]

Dextrose = commercial form of glucose, if your whey scoop is 40g then you are getting 40g of glucose...check the whey container to see the serving size and work it out from there. I forget what the deal with malto is (glucose polymer jumped into my head), there are chemical/law technicalities that allow companies to say certain things, but for all intents and purposes it pretty much = glucose.

 

[kyoun1e]

hey ky, is this your second cycle?? im considering going back onto my next cycle and was wondering what you did inbetween cuts? did you do any bulking, or gain much weight/bf?? sorry for going off topic!

I did 8 weeks of UD2 and then took a two week break at maintenance calories. I then started a second round of UD2. I've finished four additional weeks. I'm on vacation so this round is just about up but I have one more carbup to go.

For this carbup, I need to be able to function, thus more liquid. Can't nail the dextrose thing though.

Built...where are you.

KY

 

[kyoun1e]

Dextrose = commercial form of glucose, if your whey scoop is 40g then you are getting 40g of glucose...check the whey container to see the serving size and work it out from there. I forget what the deal with malto is (glucose polymer jumped into my head), there are chemical/law technicalities that allow companies to say certain things, but for all intents and purposes it pretty much = glucose.

Well the whey scoop gives me 24g of protein. Feels like that same scoop fit double the carb grams.

KY

 

[Yanick]

No don't look at how much protein it gives. You need to see the serving size, its usually one or two scoops but will tell you how many grams they used for their serving size. So for instance, the numbers are made up;

Serving Size 2 scoops (100g)

That means that 1 scoop holds 50g of mass. Since dextrose is pure glucose, a 50g scoop of dextrose will yield 50g of glucose. With protein powder, some of the mass is taken up by fillers, flavors and whatever else they put in there. Thats why a 50g scoop has say 25g of protein, the other 25g of mass is accounted for by the 'other stuff.'

EDIT: Okay I'll just say this little disclaimer if anyone wants to try and be all nit picky. I know the scoop is a measure of volume and not mass and that packing the shit out of the scoop can yield more mass within the same space (otherwise known as density). But lets be realistic here, unless you go out of your way to fuck up like that (ie pack the shit out of that scoop or whatever), the hypothetical scoop above will pretty much be 50g give or take a few.

 

[kyoun1e]

No don't look at how much protein it gives. You need to see the serving size, its usually one or two scoops but will tell you how many grams they used for their serving size. So for instance, the numbers are made up;

Serving Size 2 scoops (100g)

That means that 1 scoop holds 50g of mass. Since dextrose is pure glucose, a 50g scoop of dextrose will yield 50g of glucose. With protein powder, some of the mass is taken up by fillers, flavors and whatever else they put in there. Thats why a 50g scoop has say 25g of protein, the other 25g of mass is accounted for by the 'other stuff.'

EDIT: Okay I'll just say this little disclaimer if anyone wants to try and be all nit picky. I know the scoop is a measure of volume and not mass and that packing the shit out of the scoop can yield more mass within the same space (otherwise known as density). But lets be realistic here, unless you go out of your way to fuck up like that (ie pack the shit out of that scoop or whatever), the hypothetical scoop above will pretty much be 50g give or take a few.

Alright that makes a ton of sense.

I just weighed the damn scoop on my digital scale. 12g. I then put a full scoop of dextrose in there. Result: 61g.

It would seem that we're probably talking about 50g as you say.

KY

 

[the_leprechaun]

what bf are you down to now ky?? do you have a blog by any chance?

 

[Built]

Dextrose = commercial form of glucose, if your whey scoop is 40g then you are getting 40g of glucose....

No you're not. Dextrose is about twice as dense. I weighed it out once for an article I wrote, but a "40g" protein scoop will weigh out roughly 80g of dextrose.