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Ultimate Diet II - what I dont like about it!

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. . don't get me wrong, Ive had some good results from it and the science makes sense.

. . but I think it has some serious imperfect to it, of which I am referring to the training side of the system.

. . those depletion work outs, and the lack of carbs naturally lead to poor/non-existant recovery . .

. .even after 36 hours of refeed, my body is sore and aching . . a function of age (late 30's) . . possibly. Now when I hit the final power workout, I find Im getting injured . . this is the issue.

It makes no difference if Im geared or ungeared, Ive run it both ways. Currently Ive done a slight shoulder strain, but three days into maintenence Im still sore.

. . so I'd like to hear from others who use this system . . Built, Juggernaught . . you have the same issues? Maybe Im too old damn it!:thinking:
 
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. . don't get me wrong, Ive had some good results from it and the science makes sense.

. . but I think it has some serious imperfect to it, of which I am referring to the training side of the system.

. . those depletion work outs, and the lack of carbs naturally lead to poor/non-existant recovery . .

. .even after 36 hours of refeed, my body is sore and aching . . a function of age (late 30's) . . possibly. Now when I hit the final power workout, I find Im getting injured . . this is the issue.

It makes no difference if Im geared or ungeared, Ive run it both ways. Currently Ive done a slight shoulder strain, but three days into maintenence Im still sore.

. . so I'd like to hear from others who use this system . . Built, Juggernaught . . you have the same issues? Maybe Im too old damn it!:thinking:

I am currently running it as a natural and I am constantly sore like you describe. Considering that we're doing 4 full body workouts/week, I expected as much.

In the beginning, I was running into sore joints, until I realized that I wasn't taking enough fish oil in. When I upped it, that went away.

As far as my power workout, I'm not finding any loss of strength or worried about being injured.
 
word on the fish oil . . I was dropping 2g per meal, so thats 12g right there so maybe not enough? Still need to keep the fat down, and sometime at work I dont have control over some of the sat fat content.

but that being said, I am getting injured . . and still not fully recovered when the next week rolls around :thinking:
 
Capn, a few things:
The depletion workouts should not make you sore. Getting sore will actually interfere with the carbups later on - if you are sore from the depletion workouts, back off the weight a bit.

The power workouts - you may be STRONG enough to train that heavy, but you're dieting. Back off the weights just a smidge. Lift heavier when you've got enough food to make sure you recover properly.
 
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Capn, a few things:
The depletion workouts should not make you sore. Getting sore will actually interfere with the carbups later on - if you are sore from the depletion workouts, back off the weight a bit.

The power workouts - you may be STRONG enough to train that heavy, but you're dieting. Back off the weights just a smidge. Lift heavier when you've got enough food to make sure you recover properly.

ok, maybe my idea of depletion is skewed . . Im using supersets and trisets than basically burn me out, which I am presuming is depleting all glycogen . . at which point should I pull back?

Do you have a recommended depletion workout?
 
No, you're doing 'em right, but perhaps not quite so heavy?
 
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