Vertical Jump Training While Cutting

[33sun33]

Is it advisable to train for an increased vertical jump while cutting? That is, is it possible to increase vertical while in a caloric deficit?

Ive learned a few things from this site, one of them being that for most people (and non-newbies) you can only gain muscle if you are consuming excess calories (and other aspects of your diet and training are on point).

Does this mean that a person is unlikely to increase vertical jump while cutting? I guess the answer to this depends on what can cause increases in vertical.

If it is mostly increased muscle, then it probably would be impossible to increase vert while in a caloric deficit.

Cutting body fat certainly will help with jumping higher (to extent that keep most of your muscle).

But I wonder if there is any benefit to doing something like Kelly Bagget's Vertical Jump Bible program while cutting, beyond a mere decrease in body fat.

Any ideas?

 

[T_man]

Hmm. I'm no expert. Best asking Patrick about this one but my theory is that it's your fast twitch muscles rather than the amount of muscles you have. It's kinda like plyometrics. I don't think you'll create more muscle but maybe induce some kinda fast twitch fibre conversion from the slow twitch ones, I don't know, but I've seen my highest jumps on days I was really skinny and used to jump everyday playing basketball. During this time I was undereating and doing alot of cardio playing basketball too but my jumps seemed to get higher over time.

 

[P-funk]

I don't see a problem.

patrick

 

[33sun33]

thanks guys

 

[Bennuendo]

thanks guys

Good luck man! I'm currently working on my vertical too using a program that I set up... 4 month workout, we'll see how it turns out.

 

[gtbmed]

Don't take this for gospel, but I believe:

A higher vertical jump is the result of being able to generate more power (more force at a faster rate). You can train your body to generate more force regardless of whether you're in a caloric deficit or caloric surplus.

 

[clos109]

Correct

 

[highquality301]

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[Dale Mabry]

You probably won't achieve hypertrophy, but hypertrophy isn't the only thing that will improve your vertical. Provided you are recovering properly, I don't see why not. You have:

1)Technique
2)Stretch shortening cycle
3)Force development
4)Rate of force development

All 3 of those can be improved in a caloric deficit as long as you are recovering properly. Plus, if you weigh significantly less and can generate the same force as before, you should, in theory, improve your vertical. Not every strength increase is due to an increase in the cross sectional area of a muscle, which is the only thing I think that would hold you back.

 

[gtbmed]

A lot of strength is due to neurological efficiency and has little to do with the size of the muscle IIRC.

 

[caleb27615]

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[troubador]

Also jumping is a skill, so practicing jumping will be one of the most effective things you can do to both increase your raw vertical and your ability to use this in a sport specific situation(if that's what it is for).

 

[LAM]

Also jumping is a skill, so practicing jumping will be one of the most effective things you can do to both increase your raw vertical and your ability to use this in a sport specific situation(if that's what it is for).

you got it! this is where the principle of training specificity comes into play. in order to excel at running you must run, to swim you must swim and to jump you must practice jumping, etc.

this is where many people are misguided when they think that in increase in strength automaticly translated to increased performance in sports but that is not the case.