What brought you into the Gym?

[Flex]

lol i know he has kids thats why i put down i know it wares of after a while but the side affects range from steroids is just to much risk to take for me after all you only live once

Neo

wears off after a while? are you serious?

what are the side affects? I'm curious to hear what you THINK you know?

 

[sgtneo]

i didnt want to get into argument over this however my mum is a nurse and also knows her stuff and they would not be illegal if they are harmless. here is a list of possible side affects

Thinning of the bones resulting in avascular necrosis
testicles shrinking and sperm count can become lowered
hair falls out and breasts start to develope
this is quote from health site "More than half of body-builder sterod abusers will typically experience enlarged breasts and shrunken male organs."
women can grow beards, become bald and get deepend voices and cliterol enlargement
Liver tumours and cancer
jaundice (yellow skin from liver failure)
Retention of fluid
High blood pressure
Heart attacks and strokes
Kidney Cancer
Acne and trembeling

Is that enough for you?

Neo

 

[sgtneo]

oh also if you dont believe me theres even a web site which is called the truth about steroids and has nearly all of the side affects from my list on there and that is why i do not want to touch steroids and yes the impotent part does wear of after stoping the use of steroids

Neo

 

[gr81]

Thinning of the bones resulting in avascular necrosis
not true
testicles shrinking and sperm count can become lowered
sperm count is not lowered
hair falls out and breasts start to develope
This is based on genetics and can be very easily prevented, avoided, and taken care if it it does occur, which it is not likey to
this is quote from health site "More than half of body-builder sterod abusers will typically experience enlarged breasts and shrunken male organs."
This is simply speculation and has no factual information backin it
women can grow beards, become bald and get deepend voices and cliterol enlargement
No one here is advising women to take large doses of androgens and in fact I have many times stated my opnion on how this is not something that should be practiced
Liver tumours and cancer
Cancer is not a factor, and liver damage is only a result of oral steroid use which is not a heavy practice, and if you are using only orals you do not what you are doing and not being safe. BTW you are FAR more likely to get liver damage from tylenol
jaundice (yellow skin from liver failure)
Not a side affect of elevated testosterone level and I ask you to prove it
Retention of fluid
Depending on the androgenic level of the hormone you are takin this may be a factor, but I do not see the negative side effect of this and it can be easily easily avoided with virtually no hassle whatso ever
High blood pressure
Not necessarily a factor, genetics has alot to do with it and lifestyle/diet has more to do with it. Blood pressure can be controlled and like I mentioned earlier your blood levels shoudl be monitered weekly wihle running gear in the first place. If a person is taking proper precautions this is not a danger
Heart attacks and strokes
not true
Kidney Cancer
Not true
Acne and trembeling
Acne can be a factor, and it is largley genetic. Choice of wihch hormone to use can determine this and there are many things that can be done to be in control of this

I hate to tell you bro but Drs, and especially nurses RARELY know the first thing about bodybiullding in general, let alone Anabolic steroids. They spend all of 5 minutes on AAS in med school and I GUARANTEE I know more about it then most drs, short of an endocrinologist, believe that

 

[gr81]

oh also if you dont believe me theres even a web site which is called the truth about steroids and has nearly all of the side affects from my list on there and that is why i do not want to touch steroids and yes the impotent part does wear of after stoping the use of steroids

Neo

man, if you don't want to touch them, thats fine with all of us, no one cares and we are not trying to talk you into agreeing with anything, but you haven't done the research, so don't insult Flex and I and the hundreds of other cats on here that have spent years learning and studying endocrinology and biology so we can understand these processes.

 

[LAM]

i didnt want to get into argument over this however my mum is a nurse and also knows her stuff and they would not be illegal if they are harmless.

no offense but general practive MD's and nurses are not trained or educated in endocrinology and/or the proper use of anabolics and androgens...there are tons specialists in the field of endocrinology (i.e HRT doctors) who say the exact opposite...

I think I will believe the people (HRT Dr's) who work with steroids daily in a lab enviroment with human test subjects...

 

[sgtneo]

look i said i ddint want to get into argument they are sideaffects they wouldnt put them down just for the hell of it even if its genetic based or not and sperm count can be lowerd now no point arguing agaoinst a brick wall i dot want them you may well do

each to their own

Neo

 

[sgtneo]

also read this it backs up what you say and also doesnt rule out what im saying is true it does agree that the side affects occur but may not be in such large proportions as i have only scan read these documents but will sit down later and read it properly as it seems to make interresting reading. there fore neither of us is "wrong" and neither of us is completely right about what we say

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/allen/doctors.htm

also i do have to say from reading what i have there is far to much speculation over steroids and it should really be more clear but the fact remains that the side affects seem to be exagerated and something of non existant with the od one or 2 un fully documented cases which would support these claims of side affect so on this note i will admit i have been wrongly informed (please remember this is what i have been brought up to believe that steroids are wrong) and i will swallow my pride and apologise

Sorry

Neo

 

[gr81]

hey its cool man, thats what is so frustrating for us who are in the know b/c it is profoundly misunderstood and misrepresented and stereotyped. There are so many negative and wildly exaggerrated stigmas attached to it that the facts are logic and the side of science are rarely even mentioned. Its quite ridiculous and quite madenning, especially in the wake of all the baseball steroid accusations. its all good maYn. peace

 

[sgtneo]

just a general question ive heard that once you stop using steroids your muscles turn to liquid in a sense is that one true or not?

cheers

Neo

 

[Newt]

I was getting ready for football a long time ago, before 7th grade, and I was also a fat shit! I wanted to get stronger and in shape.

 

[Flex]

just a general question ive heard that once you stop using steroids your muscles turn to liquid in a sense is that one true or not?

cheers

Neo

yes, Neo.

once you go off steroids, your muscles melt like the Wicked Witch of the West. That's why once you go on, you can NEVER come off.

And another scary thing about roids, is that some roids actually make your balls grow with all the testosterone they produce. A buddy of mine actually had balls the size of cantelopes! No wonder why he got all the chicks!

 

[GIZmo_Timme]

yes, Neo.

once you go off steroids, your muscles melt like the Wicked Witch of the West. That's why once you go on, you can NEVER come off.

And another scary thing about roids, is that some roids actually make your balls grow with all the testosterone they produce. A buddy of mine actually had balls the size of cantelopes! No wonder why he got all the chicks!

ehhh....okej

 

[Emmz]

I started training because I wanted to be a paramedic, and I had to boost up my cardio. Then I went to the gym with my bro-in-law who'd been training for about 2 years at the time, and had lost a lot of weight, and looks better then he did in highschool. So I decided that while I'm in highschool, I may as well start improving my body, so that I'll be happy with it as I get older. So far, it's been working well, my self-esteem has been boosting a lot lately, and I'm just a general happier person overall. I'd gotten stuck in the rut that where I decided that because this is how I was, this was how I'd be for the rest of my life. Finally, I decided that the only person who could make it any better...was me.

-Emmz

 

[Flex]

ehhh....okej

i was mocking his ridiculous statement

 

[Flex]

So far, it's been working well, my self-esteem has been boosting a lot lately, and I'm just a general happier person overall. Finally, I decided that the only person who could make it any better...was me.

-Emmz

Good for you, Em

 

[sgtneo]

flex i had allread aplogised for what i was saying about steroids ty very much i was just generally asking a question not something for u to mock

Neo

 

[448448]

try to keep busy to stay off , the drugs, just ended up staying

 

[MaxMirkin]

My feet.

 

[WATTS]

started a little before age 14, about 150 pounds trying to get into shape and put on muscle mass, now 17 and 217 pounds and want to start to compete in bodybuilding...just love the feeling of being in the gym! its FREAKING adictive.

 

[da jock]

I was 22yo & skinny 5'9.5" ~137lbs! Lifting always looked fun to me, but I was a non-athletic/geeky punk-rock guy, so @ HS & college I felt intimidated @ the weight room! Was able to get a free Golds membership & stuck it out, gained 25 lbs 1st year or so, finally got up to 180lbs, then cut some BF%. Have been @ 173 last couple of years. Need to start eating right agin to gain some more mass!!

 

[Golden_Boy]

Hi all, my first time posting here. I started going to the gym 2 years ago to realize my genetic potential. Funny story, but when I was about 8, I lifted weights every second day and became well built and muscular even at that age. I was often told all kinds of discouraging things by my folks and quit. Even back then I really loved working out with iron because it represents for me a continuous changing of one's state, in so many ways, and that's what I can appreciate now as a young adult working out every second day.

 

[19-chief]

as a senoir in college i got tired of being skinny fat and i knew that i was going to be graduating soon and thought i was headed to wall st to be a broker. i wanted to be young, successful, and in shape. little did i know that i was learning a new religion that would help me conquer cancer 9 months later! now, i lift b/c i am back on the ice playing hockey, b/c i want to be attractive for HotMom23, b/c i want to live a long life, b/c i want to teach others what i know about fitness and what it can do for them, b/c i have a napoleanic complex, b/c it is the most rewarding thing i have ever done!!!

 

[Hutz]

i started to bring uop the confidence be bigger then my friends of course girls, and i keep at it cause my gf gos crazy about my muscles and if i just did a workout she really wants me in bed right away.... haha guess its cause i loolk 1/3 bigger after a workout. =)

 

[da jock]

crazy about my muscles and if i just did a workout she really wants me in bed right away.... haha guess its cause i loolk 1/3 bigger after a workout. =)

Yeah, my wife makes some very raw XXX comments about my muscle,abs,etc.. when she takes off my clothes & in bed while we're going at it! Which is what hitting the gym is all about! It's funny cuz I was a 137lb punk rock guy when we met, I started lifting after we were dating & gained 40+ Lbs. She liked me skinny anyway!
When I used to lift @ home she jumped my bones for a quicky prolly 6 times or so while I was all sweaty & pumped. Sweet memories!

 

[kr1s1]

Wanted to shed some BF but Ive learned its also the best stress relief in the field. I come out of the gym feeling 120% better than I went in......

 

[ericnb_98]

I started because I was 5'9" @ 265 and I wasa coach on my son's popwarner football team. I had seen pictures of me on the field with them and thought. "WTF happened to You!" what kind of example was I setting for them and myself. I refuse to continue to live Fat, Dumb and Unhealthy any longer.

 

[Curlingcadys]

I was tired of being tired. I was tired of being flabby. I was tired of looking like everyother SOB on the street. There are many thing in life I can not control but, I can control my physique.

nicley said took my answer right out of my mouth!

***That and I have some anger managment issues that got me in some deep shit again and again and listening to somebody preach about counting to 10 and all that other happy horseshit made me more of an agry person, so I found weight lifting and haven't had a problem really since

 

[Celtic Bhoy]

Found that weight training is a great form of stress relief and makes ya feel better.Great for confidence and self esteem toh yeah, the girls love a lean body so its worth spending 6 or 7 hours a week if ya can find the time.Besides, in general most of the bodybuilders ive met are the most genuine guys yad meet in your life.

 

[NipsMG]

The fact that I'm a chubby bastard brought me into the gym.