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are ya sure that is like a business website
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I did not say AGE, but TRAINING age...meaning amount of years a person has been training.
I will not get into an argument, but I only asked b/c I completely disagree. Once a person has been training for a certain amount of time, I feel that training to failure and beyond for weeks at a time is necessary for gains in hypertrophy. Nervous system recovery is easily taken care of with proper nutrition, supplements, low training volume, and rest.
I do agree that from the beginning through early intermediate stages that training to failure is less of a necessity, and progressive resistance is king.
Anyway, carry on with whatever you are talking about here...
GoPro,
If you where going to ask the specific question and not be clear, do not make a comeback post acting like a prick. Besides, if you where as great as you make yourself out to be then you would have posted with the terms "Fitness state" rather then age of training. Because really 'age' in which you are reffering to as time can be disregarded and very inacurrate. Especially when you are reffering to 'fitness state' or 'overal conditioning of the individual', you of all people should know the difference.
I do however feel this is a good debate and im more then ready to discuss it if you have the balls. (yes consider that a challenge)
Kc
If you where going to ask the specific question and not be clear, do not make a comeback post acting like a prick. Besides, if you where as great as you make yourself out to be then you would have posted with the terms "Fitness state" rather then age of training. Because really 'age' in which you are reffering to as time can be disregarded and very inacurrate. Especially when you are reffering to 'fitness state' or 'overal conditioning of the individual', you of all people should know the difference.
I do however feel this is a good debate and im more then ready to discuss it if you have the balls. (yes consider that a challenge)
Kc
So you think that my gains might actually improve if I were to stop going to failure? I go to failure on an average of one set per lift. Usually, I make the last set to failure. I have only been lifting for 8 months. However, I lifted about 4 years before that for another period of 9 months.
Wow, you are one insecure SOB. I did not act like a prick at all. Sorry I didn't use "terminology" YOU are familiar with, but I just happen to use the term "training age" (as Poliquin does) to simply describe amount of years one has been training. If you were not sure what I was referring to, all you had to do is say,"What exactly do you mean by this?" Very easy...very simple.
And in my eyes this is NOT a debate at all. You see, what YOU will do is refer me to bunch of "scientific" studies by Siff, or a bunch of Eatern Bloc phenomenons and I will not give a sh%t. MY scientific studies, done over the past 15 years has already proven to me time and again what works, so there is nothing you can say to prove me otherwise. Results do not lie...and when they happen in the "first person" and with everyone you have had the pleasure to train you pretty much become sure of what you are doing.
But feel free to say anything you want to everyone here. Just try not to be so damn insecure my man.
Its interesting you are concluding im the insecure one, when you are so caught up on your 'ways' you are blantly scared to argue the point, for fear you would be proven wrong.
Like i said, the term you used is irrelavent and does not have any meaning for the way you used it. If an athlete has been training for 4years, his training age is 4 which is correct, now please explain to me how you can conclude from this information what he is ready for and what he is not ready for, especially when training age does not reffer to fitness state.
Who said anything about studies? Are you so scared that you cannot have this debate for fear of getting proven wrong?
Its funny how you say "I feel" "I think" i dont say anything i cant back up, and from what i've read your all mouth and lack the education to prove anything.
Your very sad for the fact you wont take critisim or you wont take your methods questions so you feel the need to attack on a personal level, which isnt very professional.
I also dont think you can argue this topic because you dont have an understanding of it to do it.
Kc
Do you hear yourself? I have not attacked you personally at all. I even told you to go ahead and list your methods all you want...have fun, I don't care. YOU are the one that stormed onto the site and said that YOU were going to present the training methodology that would change the industry and was so much better than anything out there.
Now, let me retract any "I thinks" and "I feels" and make them I KNOW. Is that better for you. I don't think or feel my training methodologies work...I KNOW THEY DO. I have gained over 130 lbs of drug free muscle myself and have a ridiculosly long list of clientele that I have transformed. THAT is real, THAT is tangible, and THAT is truth.
Will I step up and say like you "My methods are superior to all others, blah, blah!" No, because there are many many amazing trainers out there that also have their own ways to get good results. There is NO WAY to know who's method is the best and there never will be. As long as what you do works for you and EVERYONE you train, and does more for them than anything else ever has, then you can bet your ass you are good at what you do.
You can criticize me all you want. Go ahead big guy, take your shot! But you CANNOT criticize my methods for one simple reason because they WORK and WORK DAMN WELL.
And don't give me the crap about being afraid to debate you. I have debated loud mouths like you many times and it is a waste of breath my friend. Go ahead and write down all of your ideas...so far I have not seen anything I haven't before. I promise to pop in and out when I see fit and we can debate when necessary. Also, you can see how many people use your ideas and you can get feedback on them. Its the results that count, not the words or fancy terminology.
Gopro,
Once again, your missing the whole point. Maybe if you would have read a bit better you would have read that i said "Gopro's workouts more then likely..work.. yadda yadda yadda, but are they actually making the lifter get the best gains possible?"
Maybe that didnt get into your thick head now did it? I dont see where your arguing and i dont see how you can come off saying that im going to change the industry? Im not, i've done addressed that point too. I said "Id change the way many bodybuilders train" Again, your have a bad problem understanding word usage.
Again, your also missing the point of the results. The results that have been compiled and the studies and coaches who have used this particular method of organizing their training FAR surpasses what you'll ever do. WOW i think i've addressed this topic too!
Kc
Once again, your missing the whole point. Maybe if you would have read a bit better you would have read that i said "Gopro's workouts more then likely..work.. yadda yadda yadda, but are they actually making the lifter get the best gains possible?"
Maybe that didnt get into your thick head now did it? I dont see where your arguing and i dont see how you can come off saying that im going to change the industry? Im not, i've done addressed that point too. I said "Id change the way many bodybuilders train" Again, your have a bad problem understanding word usage.
Again, your also missing the point of the results. The results that have been compiled and the studies and coaches who have used this particular method of organizing their training FAR surpasses what you'll ever do. WOW i think i've addressed this topic too!
Kc
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FI, by now you must realize that it simply looks like you are here to have a pissing contest with GoPro and whomever else puts in their two cents. Whatever your reasons may be, if it makes you feel better about yourself to win an argument on an internet chat board, go right ahead. Yay, you're right - your methods are the best and I'm sure you will help many many people and have so in the past.
Do you take this type of approach with your clients and others that you interact with? Because if you do you have something to learn about human relations. I wish you the best of luck with that.
Do you take this type of approach with your clients and others that you interact with? Because if you do you have something to learn about human relations. I wish you the best of luck with that.
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Dammit Prince, you always get to these things first.
There is a point to this. Im sorry i dont come here and worship GoPro like everyone is ment to do here i guess.
GoPro is simply avoiding things and does not seem to understand the very benefical and factial point science has. He like others get very personal about things when one questions what they do. If he wished to questions what i say or do, hey thats fine.. i'll back it up. Like i said, what i say and do i can back up, he on the other hand cant. The only thing he can say is "My clients benefited from it" again, he is missing the big picture. Im simply asking him "How do you know your clients are getting the optimal results to their potential?"
I have yet to see any of his programs periodized, or explain why you do this and that.
Kc
Kc
GoPro is simply avoiding things and does not seem to understand the very benefical and factial point science has. He like others get very personal about things when one questions what they do. If he wished to questions what i say or do, hey thats fine.. i'll back it up. Like i said, what i say and do i can back up, he on the other hand cant. The only thing he can say is "My clients benefited from it" again, he is missing the big picture. Im simply asking him "How do you know your clients are getting the optimal results to their potential?"
I have yet to see any of his programs periodized, or explain why you do this and that.
Kc
Kc
Grow up from stating facts or what?
Kc
Kc
Can someone please just lock this thread and end the madness? Any useful information on the topic at hand has already been discussed. No longer is any of this information useful.
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