nomad77
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Ive hear many people say a week. ive noticed some recover faster. How often do you workout the same muscle?
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what is your average muscle recovery time while on aas?
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Keyser Soze
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I not believe in overtraining. If you eat enaugh and get your sleep you'r good to go. And the gear help you recover even faster. Why use gear if you going to do things slow ? We all use gear to blow up or to harden up. what i try to say is that when we are on gear you can and schould push your self harder. No need to be on gear if you not going to give it 100%
Back in the day i did each muscle part one time a week. But now do i train them 2 times a week..
I train each muscle 2 times a week.
I've been off gear for like 7 months btw, I dont believe in overtraining per se but your joints can only take so much.
I've been off gear for like 7 months btw, I dont believe in overtraining per se but your joints can only take so much.
nomad77
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I figure if its not sore better make it sore!
i notice if i did heavy compund movements it takes me longer and i feel more flat but if i cut those out and do more isolations and higher reps i can go 6 7 days a week and still be pupmed every workout
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Kenny Croxdale
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Overtraining
It is real. It exist.
General Adaptation Syndrome
This is the foundation of training and what Perioidzation Training is based on.
When the body is placed under stress it learns to adapt.
However, at some point the adaptation process is overloaded.
One that occurs, progress stops and you go into...
Overreaching
Overreaching is a condition in which the body is over worked. Progress stops and regresses if you keep training.
With minimnal rest/deloading and cutting back, the body responds to Overreaching...bouncing back fairly quickly.
Overtraining
However, if you continue to push your body during the Overreaching phase, you then go into Overtraining.
Regression in strength, size, performance occurs.
It can take weeks or longer to recovery once you've over trained.
"Eat More, Sleep More"
While that insures progress, it doesn't work in a state of Overtraining.
Continuing to push when you in an exhaused state ONLY make thing worse and for longer.
Periodization Training
This the founation of a good training program. You push yourself in training sessions and then allow your body to reover.
Continuing to push yourself without "Resetting" or "Recycling" insure that you never reach your potential.
"Gear help you recover..."
"Gear" does allow you to push further.
However, Overtraining can and does occur with "Gear".
Kenny Croxdale
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Can you really over train when you're eating through the night 7 weeks out from a BB show? I've had this discussion with 2 world renown prep coaches and one said there's no way with enough food and keeping the body in a positive nitrate balance and the other said it's very simple to over train if the body goes catabolic -where the body is eating muscle for energy? Just wanted to get your thoughts since you're the "man with the master plan"!!!
serious question BTW
Kenny Croxdale
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"Man with the Master Plan"
I am hardly the guy with a master plan. I am not that dilusional.
"...With enough food and keeping the body in a positive nitrate balance"...
as per the bodybuilding coach that insures you don't Overtain in regarding consuming enough food throughout the night, 7 weeks out from a show.
Oxymorinic Statement
There no way a bodybuilder is going consume enough food to stay in or maintain an anabolic environment when cutting calories.
Dr Lane Norton (PhD Nutrition, Pro Natural Bodybuilder and Sometimes Powerlifter)
As per Norton: "There is an inherent problem with all calorie-deficit diets. They are catabolic. Thats right, take as many anti-catabolic supplements as you like but if you are in calorie deficit... you are in a catabolic state."
Bodybuilders on Show Day
I have a lot of admiration for bodybuilders and how hard they train. When it comes to building muscle mass and decreasing body fat, they are the guy to talk to.
However, on meet day, bodybuilders are physically depleted.
This physical depletion occurs over a few weeks of caloric depletion and training.
Positive Caloric Intake
As a powerlifter, consuming enough food or being in a positive caloric state as well as getting enough rest/sleep helps in training for a meet.
However, Overtraining can and does occur if when you push too hard too too long just prior to a meet.
You're The Bodybuilder
As a bodybuilder who competes, you first hand knowledge on this, I am sure you have some thoughts on it.
Kenny Croxdale
Muscle recovery is one thing, cns recovery is another. Once i start to feel sluggish, tired, weak grip, shakey, scatter brained, then i know its time for a day off and let my nervous system recoup.
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recent article I read said 4 to 7 days...don't remember the deets
A superficial pump is not the same as breaking down the fascia with heavy compounds. Functional, lower rep, heavy compounds are essential to add into a BBing routine for CNS development, as well as vascular system development and overall strength. Plus your body releases GH during heavy compounds. You wont get those benefits i mentioned doing one armed cable curls
I can always tell when someone lifts but doesnt deadlift or squat. Usually a narrow back with no ass or quad sweep, no neck width or trap height. but they'll have veiny pumped arms and maybe some delt seperation.
