whats best to bulk up but burn fat???

[virgo24]

hi, im in uk and need to find whats best to strip some fat and also bulk up? i also could do with any suppliers if possible?
Much in need!!!
Thanks everyone if you can help

 

[XYZ]

It doesn't work that way, either bulk or cut.

If you want to recomp, try tren and GH. LOTS of GH

 

[ICE WATER]

I don't think drugs like that exist yet

 

[tbird2]

if you have to ask your not ready for it.

 

[PappyMason]

It doesn't work that way, either bulk or cut.

If you want to recomp, try tren and GH. LOTS of GH

it will be expensive tho. VERY expensive

 

[Standard Donkey]

use a lot of insulin

 

[bdeljoose]

Lift while using meth.

 

[ItsMrGreen]

Well you could use tren that will bulk you up and lean you out a bit but you cant bulk and cut at the same time you have to choose between the two.

 

[Digitalash]

Stats? Cycle history?


Also this

if you have to ask your not ready for it.

 

[USMC]

First off, it's MOSTLY abut diet, period. Bulk, cut, whatever. Sure there are certain compounds that "aid" in different ways, and than "overall" compounds like test.

But the fact remains you have to have your diet in check. No miracle drug is suddenly going to add 20 pounds of mass and drop your bf to single digits like someone waving a magic wand.

Max amount of protein, min amount of fat and sugars and enough carbs to keep you going along with adding in the correct amounts of gear, and by correct amounts that means everyone is different, is about as close as you're going to get.

Oh and DEDICATION. A guy that takes protein and creatine and kills the gym every second he's in there is going to see more results than that guy pinning a gram of test a week and 500mg of tren and a ton of mast and enough HGH to kill a horse and only hits the gym a couple times a week and half asses it while he's there. You see what i'm saying.

 

[Roaddkingg]

It doesn't work that way, either bulk or cut.

If you want to recomp, try tren and GH. LOTS of GH

XYZ hit it.
You have to pick one my friend. Like a poster below this stated it all comes down to diet. My suggestion is to read all you can about bulking and get that down pat with a simple cycle first.
Then while your on that read more and learn how to cut and do that as you'r # 2.
Also our rules state you have to give us some history about yourself before anyone is supposed to give you advise on a cycle. Stats.
But you are in the right place to have all you'r questions answered.
We have whats called sticky's and they have tons of information you would be interested in.
Then there are differant sections with more specific topics. Check all of them out and we'll do the rest for you.

 

[manickanuck]

Wih diet and traing in check, i would do test, tren and kickstart with anavar or turinabol.
Adex at .5 ed to keep bloat to a minimum, imo

 

[virgo24]

First off, it's MOSTLY abut diet, period. Bulk, cut, whatever. Sure there are certain compounds that "aid" in different ways, and than "overall" compounds like test.

But the fact remains you have to have your diet in check. No miracle drug is suddenly going to add 20 pounds of mass and drop your bf to single digits like someone waving a magic wand.

Max amount of protein, min amount of fat and sugars and enough carbs to keep you going along with adding in the correct amounts of gear, and by correct amounts that means everyone is different, is about as close as you're going to get.

Oh and DEDICATION. A guy that takes protein and creatine and kills the gym every second he's in there is going to see more results than that guy pinning a gram of test a week and 500mg of tren and a ton of mast and enough HGH to kill a horse and only hits the gym a couple times a week and half asses it while he's there. You see what i'm saying.

Thanks for the reply. i know theres nothing out there thats a miracle drug but just wondered if i was missing something. im just starting out and more or less going it alone. i dont know all these diferent names people are telling me to use, the tren appears quite often but i havent got a clue lol. im an ex rugby player and i never used suppliments when i was playing but now im not i wanted to get in to them. im a big built lad with a few extra pounds but i know i can train that off so i suppose my question should be, whats best to gain size quicker than normal?
thanks for the interest and reply.

 

[USMC]

Thanks for the reply. i know theres nothing out there thats a miracle drug but just wondered if i was missing something. im just starting out and more or less going it alone. i dont know all these diferent names people are telling me to use, the tren appears quite often but i havent got a clue lol. im an ex rugby player and i never used suppliments when i was playing but now im not i wanted to get in to them. im a big built lad with a few extra pounds but i know i can train that off so i suppose my question should be, whats best to gain size quicker than normal?
thanks for the interest and reply.

NP, check the stickies for first cycle advice, but something simple like Test with a DBol kickstart will put on pounds for sure. Gve that a whirl before including other things like Tren. Good luck bro.

 

[Roaddkingg]

Wih diet and traing in check, i would do test, tren and kickstart with anavar or turinabol.
Adex at .5 ed to keep bloat to a minimum, imo

I hate to bust you'r balls but I'm sorry. Thats not good advise for a newbie.
Tren isnt for a first time user#1
#2 .5adex every day is crazy. Thats 3.5mgs per week.
I use .5mgs mon, wed & fri and do very well and so do most guys. Thats 1.5 mgs vs you'r 3.5.
But thats what this site is all about is for all of us to learn.
You need a certain amount of estrogen to grow period. The idea is to use just enough arimadex to stop side effects from happening and thats it. Unless as you stated you are holding to much water then maybe a person could ramp it up just a tad.
OR there are other things that can help keep water down also.

 

[hill450]

I hate to bust you'r balls but I'm sorry. Thats not good advise for a newbie.
Tren isnt for a first time user#1
#2 .5adex every day is crazy. Thats 3.5mgs per week.
I use .5mgs mon, wed & fri and do very well and so do most guys. Thats 1.5 mgs vs you'r 3.5.
But thats what this site is all about is for all of us to learn.
You need a certain amount of estrogen to grow period. The idea is to use just enough arimadex to stop side effects from happening and thats it. Unless as you stated you are holding to much water then maybe a person could ramp it up just a tad.
OR there are other things that can help keep water down also.

Not to hijack OP but got a question. I'm on 12.5 mg exemestane ed. Is this too much? I dont think I'm holding water but not overly sure what I'd look like if i were? I just know too much AI will hinder gains and I don't want that. Hell, I've seen guys on a lot more than me on here with no AI. I'm on 600mg test for 5 weeks and upping to 750 next week for weeks 6-10. Any suggestions? Thanks man

 

[Roaddkingg]

Not to hijack OP but got a question. I'm on 12.5 mg exemestane ed. Is this too much? I dont think I'm holding water but not overly sure what I'd look like if i were? I just know too much AI will hinder gains and I don't want that. Hell, I've seen guys on a lot more than me on here with no AI. I'm on 600mg test for 5 weeks and upping to 750 next week for weeks 6-10. Any suggestions? Thanks man

No.
You'r case and his are totally differant. He's talking about arimadex and you'r taking aromasin.
Aromasin is suicidal to estrogen meaning it kills it. IMO aromasin is best suited for PCT and arimadex is better for ON cycle. Several guys do like to use aromasin ON cycle but my preferance is to use arimadex On and aromasin for PCT. A lot of guys who do use aromasin on cycle do use it at 12.5 and sometimes they have to up it to 25. But as I said thats not my preferance. If you were holding water you'd feel puffy and look soft. Hope this helps. If you need any other advice PM me and I'd be glad to help.

 

[hill450]

Yea, I know they're different but I was just making sure as this is my first cycle. Thanks man I appreciate it.

 

[Digitalash]

Op do a simple test cycle with some kind of oral kickstart, rest is diet. Check the sticky "first cycle and pct" link at the bottom of my post, honestly about the best place you could possibly start. Good luck

 

[banker23]

Lift while using meth.

...while wearing a rubber suit...and mainlining synthol...