what's the best fat burner, period?

[Kent777]

Damn TP maybe I been watchin to many infomercials. If I lag on cardio I can feel it negatively in my weight training. Maybe its just my body. I do cardio everyday. 20 minutes 5 days 30 -45 minutes the other 2. I always felt the cardio after weights helped get the lackic acid out. Ok explaining your question. Cardio at 41 is important because older you get you need to keep it up,,, ,so important because keeping yourself motivated and not becoming a slacker. does that make sense. I sit at a desk all day trading stock options and commodities. I NEED CARDIO!!! LOL

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by Kent777
Damn TP maybe I been watchin to many infomercials.

Perhaps.

Originally posted by Kent777
Ok explaining your question. Cardio at 41 is important because older you get you need to keep it up,,, ,so important because keeping yourself motivated and not becoming a slacker. does that make sense. I sit at a desk all day trading stock options and commodities. I NEED CARDIO!!! LOL

No, that makes no sense, sorry. Please try again. What is it you need to keep up? Remember the context of my question please, or reread it.

As you get older, you naturally lose muscle. This causes a reduction in metabolism, which in turn causes a natural fat increase. This is why we tend to gain weight. Weight training, obviously, can counteract this. Cardio will not, and can only impede your weight training, not help it (unless you are just using it as a warm-up/cool down). Cardio doesn't flush lactic acid (unless you have a study that supports this).

Again, I am not saying that YOU shouldn't do cardio. I am simply saying that too many people do cardio for the wrong reasons.

Lets say person (A) HATES to lift weights. But loves cardio. S/he should do cardio because a weigh program will likely fail in the long run. So, it does have a place.

Lets say person (B) does cardio because (i) it helps reduce bodyfat, or (ii) it improves cardiac functioning, or (iii) it improves circulatory functioning, or (iv) it prevents bone degredation as you age, or (v) [do you get the point....] then THEY SHOULD BE WEIGHT LIFTING, since all of those "goals" are more effectively achieved through weight training.

 

[gopro]

TP...your last couple of posts are so long that all that typing probably counts as cardio...have you lost any size, LOL!

 

[Freeman]

that rules!

 

[Twin Peak]

A little, they have certainly made my brain catabolic.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Kent, go see Clarence Bass' website.

Rob, since you are english you really should know this but proper english requires that you put an 's after any word that is not plural. Thus, the possessive of a man named Bass would be Bass's.

Or if you were to refer to a mule's leg, it would be ass's. Should you refer to multiple mules' legs, then it would be asses'

Just thought an individual of your esteemed education and attention to detail should be aware of this.

 

[Freeman]

Twin Peak cracks me up!

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by freeman1504
Twin Peak cracks me up!

Glad to oblige. Um, that is, if you are laughing with me, and not at me!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by freeman1504
Twin Peak cracks me up!

Yeah, he is really getting quite the sense of humor lately. He might be dieting?

 

[Freeman]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Glad to oblige. Um, that is, if you are laughing with me, and not at me!

With you with you...not at you!

 

[Freeman]

Originally posted by gopro
Yeah, he is really getting quite the sense of humor lately. He might be dieting?

Yes, that could be...definite possibility. :agree:

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by gopro
Yeah, he is really getting quite the sense of humor lately. He might be dieting?

Lately? WTF is that supposed to mean? Maybe it is you who has developed the sense of humor and now appreciate mine!

P.S. Maybe its bulking, dieting does not make me funny!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Lately? WTF is that supposed to mean? Maybe it is you who has developed the sense of humor and now appreciate mine!

P.S. Maybe its bulking, dieting does not make me funny!

No, lately you have had a little more "venom" in your humor! But thats ok...I KINDA LIKE IT!

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by gopro
No, lately you have had a little more "venom" in your humor! But thats ok...I KINDA LIKE IT!

Ah, yes, I think that is true. I wondered if anyone noticed. THAT could be due to dieting, but alas I am not.

I am simply tired of being TOO nice.

 

[Kent777]

I see your point,,, ok let me ask you this then,,, are you saying that weight training done right I can deep 6 my cardio and stend it on weights completely? Also whats the maximum time a person can spend lifting, i hear that after 1 to 1 1/4 hours you are doing more harm that good. is that true. thanks

 

[Freeman]

anything much over an hour is typically over training...plus, I find that I just get sick of being there that long! when I'm there that long it's cuz I'm taking too long in btwn sets or bullshitting with people in the gym...

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Kent777
I see your point,,, ok let me ask you this then,,, are you saying that weight training done right I can deep 6 my cardio and stend it on weights completely? Also whats the maximum time a person can spend lifting, i hear that after 1 to 1 1/4 hours you are doing more harm that good. is that true. thanks

I must add my opinion here. I do not think you should drop out your cardio completely. Reasonable amounts of cardio is a healthy thing. I think that 20-30 minute sessions done 3 x per week is just fine without causing overtraining problems. Weight workouts should not take more than an hour. As long as your nutrition is sound you should not have problems with going catabolic. If your goal is all around fitness and a nice physique, than balance is the key.

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Rob, since you are english you really should know this but proper english requires that you put an 's after any word that is not plural. Thus, the possessive of a man named Bass would be Bass's.

Or if you were to refer to a mule's leg, it would be ass's. Should you refer to multiple mules' legs, then it would be asses'

Just thought an individual of your esteemed education and attention to detail should be aware of this.

Actually mate, both ways are perfectly acceptable.

 

[cornfed]

I'd give input on this thread, but it would better belong in the subforum

 

[Robboe]

Druggy.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Druggy.

You took the words right outta my mouth, LOL!

 

[researchchems4u]

Best fat burner is dnp, but yohimbine hcl and clen work nicely, especially for women!!!

 

[david]

ya hit that right on the research!!!

 

[Mudge]

I like low impact stuff, walking or the stationary bike, I do not like true cardio.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by Kent777
I see your point,,, ok let me ask you this then,,, are you saying that weight training done right I can deep 6 my cardio and stend it on weights completely? Also whats the maximum time a person can spend lifting, i hear that after 1 to 1 1/4 hours you are doing more harm that good. is that true. thanks

Generally yes, but that depends on your goals, your physique, your normal metabolic rate, and your history. Personally, I feel few things can be stated without a context.

Generally, though, if your primary goal is to increase muscle mass, weight training alone, along with a sound nutritional plan can accomplish all the other side benefits you may want (healthy heart, increased metabolism and circulatory functioning, protection from bone loss as one ages, lower cholesterol and blood pressure, fat loss, etc.).

Again it depends on your goals. If you are perfectly happy with your current muscle mass than by all means, continue cardio.

If you wish to train for endurance (marathon, etc) or improve sprinting than do cardio. But you better make sure you are doing a cardio-type that fits the bill. Low impact cardio (as oppsed to HIIT) provides little benefit, cardiac or others, that weight training doesn't.

 

[cornfed]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Druggy.

Bastards... it has nothing to do w/ use but the mere fact of effectiveness and that's what the question was

Also note that I didn't go that direction anywho.... bastards

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by cornfed
Bastards... it has nothing to do w/ use but the mere fact of effectiveness and that's what the question was

Also note that I didn't go that direction anywho.... bastards

 

[gopro]

By the way...the MOST POTENT FAT BURNER OF ALL IS DYING!!! I have never seen a skeleton with more than like 0% bodyfat.

So here is the strategy...

1- die
2- decompose
3- wait
4- decompose some more

Bang, you're shredded!

 

[Kent777]

Thats stupid!

 

[Jodi]

No Kent, THAT was humor!