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Which Lab gear is the best?

lnvanry

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So, my first cycle is Test E...from Mexico (testosterona Enantato) made by ttokkyo labs. So what is the good word with this stuff? What is better? As far as I know my supplier has a source that sends in pretty much anything. My next cyle I think is going to be Anadrol and Deca...what labs are good for that?:hmmm: Is there a manufacturer that is hands down the best?
 
Everyone has their favorites. I would not rank TTokkyo up there though.
 
lnvanry said:
Anadrol and Deca...

are you going for the water buffalo look ?

what is your reasoning for using that combo ?
 
"Water buffalo" :lol:
 
Personally, I prefer the Bison look. Buffalo is a bit derogatory, don't you think? :rofl:
 
DG why do you think the TTOKYO is not up there?

:mad:I will never look like a water bison...I am way too vascular for that:nanner: But seriously I thought that an anadrol/deca combo would be good for adding mass to my 5'11 175lbs frame. I hold little water even when i was taking 40mgdbol/500mg test E, I didn't lose any weight when I cut off the dbol week 4. I also didn't get gyno like everyone said I would too. I am in week 6 now w/ no need for nolva, even after my first 2 weeks of foolishly taking 700mg/wk of test E...for a first timer. Really what is wrong w/ a deca/anadrol for my body type. I need to get my body fat up as well from a 5.5%, which is the highest it has ever been. My whole life it sat around 2%-4%.

Any other comments about which labs would be best? The guys at my gym are kind of lay when it comes to labratory credibility...Some people here seem to be very experienced in this area...please help:lick:
 
Best at what exactly?

Most gear is not all that painfull except certain types, not entire branded lines.

If its legit, juice is juice. Ttokkyo is ok, but is never highly sought after, ergo it is not "up there."

I have used Ttokkyo and QV, after that I got into underground stuff and haven't looked back since.
 
underground? made by someone at home or not in a lab?
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
You never know, I've made stuff at home too, works great.
 
lnvanry said:
Really what is wrong w/ a deca/anadrol for my body type.

it has nothing to do with your body type. once the anadrol clears your system you are left with almost no androgens content in your system...can you say no libido
 
Wow, deca dick + anadrol, hardcore shutdown.

I like anadrol for strength but even when pulling in a pound a day for 3 weeks, I didn't see it being all that beneficial to me. I think I am sticking to the easier dbol for now, although everyone is different to some degree.

Dbol costs less and gives me similar results.
 
lnvanry said:
I need to get my body fat up as well from a 5.5%, which is the highest it has ever been. My whole life it sat around 2%-4%.

Your body fat is at 5.5%?
 
lnvanry said:
My whole life it sat around 2%-4%.
Bodybuilders in contest are not that low. I think you are very mistaken.
 
lnvanry said:
DG why do you think the TTOKYO is not up there?
Never heard anything good about them. Like Mudge said, not many people seek them out. Too many others out there that are better.
But if you like them, stick with it.
 
dg806 said:
Bodybuilders in contest are not that low. I think you are very mistaken.
Actually I am not mistaken. My metabolism is so accelerated that I lose 5-6 every night I go to sleep:eek: It has been professionally measured several times. Once in the water tank which is the most accurate method of measurement. The shitty digital devices won't even make a reading and comes up error every time b/c it only goes as low as 5%. I eat 4-5k calories a day. 15-20% comes from fat. Some days it is more saturated by a substantial margin b/c I do eat pizza 3-4 times a week being a student in all.

It seems, dg and mudge, that you guys think it is kind of like a personal experience to build a preference to which lab gear is best, right? If you had an unlimited resource of any kind what would it be for you?
 
Hydrostatic is supposedly most accurate between 6-15% from my reading.

I bought a Tanita not long ago and its best reading for me was 27% bodyfat which is bullcrap. :) If you score 5% you have some major conductivity going on there. Pizza is more carb heavy than anything else, if you want saturated fat eat some 70% lean beef.

How do you hit 4-5k calories with only 15-20% calories from fat? I'd be curious to see your diet, because thats a damn lot of "clean" foods.

Most people run something that they like when they find what they like. Ttokkyo is legit but its not at all "the best," in terms of injection feeling and so on.

If funds were unlimited most everyone on the boards would probably be running Upjohn products and things of that nature, which are noted for being baby smooth at the site. I have never used any American stuff other than underground or homemade stuff.
 
I gotta see a pic of you, bud. I eat less calories than you from relatively clean sources and outweigh you by 55 pounds and would die to be 8 percent...the fact that you claim you maintain 2-4 naturally is either inaccurate or the most impressive thing I've ever heard
 
Contrary to popular belief, your body fat can be that low...my whole family is like this ( a family of swimmers and marathon runners too) I just have an extremyly odd body type. I have been eating religiously to gain fat. I said earlier that I am up to 6% app. My gym has a dietition center in...fortunately I am seeing the girl who runs majority of the test during the weekdays, so I walk in and she'll test me whenever. Obviously some test can be time consuming, but the electronic test meter that deals with conductivity (muscle being more conductive than fat) wouldn't even read me until recently.

My diet is reletively clean except for Sat. That day I will eat whatever the fuck I can get my hands on. the rest of the week looks something like this:

First thing in the morning: casein protein shake...even before I take a morning piss

meal1 6eggs 5slices of bacon (half the time turkey bacon) one-two serving of fruit, 2servings of oatmeal, juice, milk, 1cup of cottage cheese

meal2 I have lunch w/ my father almost everyday of the week at Lone Star...getting the same thing everyday...12oz. filet, baked potato (butter sour cream) black bean soup

work out then...500cal protein shake 40g protein/ 60g of carbs/ glutamine and BCAA's

meal 3 chicken breast w/ 2cups of rice and 1 cup of broccoli (this is the only meal my GF know how to make...doh:laugh:

meal 4 two bags of ramen noodles(as students best friend) 6-10oz. of chicken butterball strips

meal 5 1000cal weightgainer with four scoops of peanut butter and some hershey's syrup. or 4-6slices of dominos cheese pizza

I eat meal 4/5 at the gym b/c I work there at night...

meal 6 ASA I get home it is tuna straight outa the can...yum OR

another casein shake before I go to bed.
I also take a mulitvitamin and try take 1g of flax seed oil w/ every meal.
I go to sleep at 179-181lbs (this has been true for the pst 2/3 weeks) and wake up 175-177. I always get 8 sometimes 10 hours of sleep.

My extreme low body fat of 4% and lower was due to the fact I never trained, smoked, ate 2-3 times of day, did enough recreational drugs to put a horse in a coma. That was over a year ago now. I was 125lbs at 5'11 WTF:eek:
 
Mudge isn't UpJohn made by Pfizer or some other national pharmie that requires percsription.

My ttokyo shots hurt like a bitch...is that b/c their product is not so great:confused:

I read on a thread somewhere the the best gear never hurts or make you that sore really. Mine hurts like a mofo for 2-3days. Is this true?
 
lnvanry said:
I read on a thread somewhere the the best gear never hurts or make you that sore really.

maybe the molecular weight of the base steroid has something to do with this ?
:confused:
 
What, did you do meth or what?

I'd love to see a picture of how ripped you are, that's pretty nuts
 
no duncan, I did not do meth...at least not that I know of, but cooks definitely cut all types of shit like X and blow w/ that stuff. It makes to person think the got some really good blow, but actually they're cranked for hours...then they do not eat or sleep for a day or so. Who knows though. I do live in central IL which has its fair shair of busted meth labs, and we are next Iowa and Missouri the meth capitals of the world. You never really know what is in your shit unless you are directly from the manufacturer which I and 99.9% of people are not. really glad I don't has that lifestyle, but I do wonder how much worse of am I w/ AS?

my roomate has a digital camera, but I am not too computer savy. How do you download a pic onto this site?
 
lnvanry said:
Mudge isn't UpJohn made by Pfizer or some other national pharmie that requires percsription.

All steroids that are legal for prescription, require a prescription bro. Your Ttokkyo is not legal for human consumption in the US.

Upjohn also has products overseas.
 
deeno said:
Your body fat is at 5.5%?
I can see that. Even when I'm " fat" I'm at bout 8.5% BF so I can understand that. Some peeps are just that way. Now 2.5%............. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM that's scary.Thats not even safe. Peace and Love
 
Here you go as i live here in Baja, Ca and can help you. Denkall is rated as the best down here but a lot higher in price. QV (Quality Vets) is very good and very reasonable. I've used ttokkyo and had no problems. If you can stick with either denkall or quality vet.

Note: there's now a new supplier also and I here it's good and i think the name is animal vet or animal something.

P.M me if you need more info.....
 
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