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[LAM]

Reagan had balls!

Reagan added fuel to the fire with his "supply side" economics and the deficit tripled under his watch. In reality the deficit doesn't really matter as all industrialized countries have them and there is a direct relationship to the defecit and global economic power plus the federal government doesn't retire so policy can be made in the future to help reduce it. But back to Reagan and thanks the many corporate tax loopholes which reduced their tax burdens putting more on the middle class and forces the Fed to print more money Reagans budget chief David Stockman wrote a tell all book called "The Triumph of Politics" where he stated that he knew nothing of economics and that supply side economics was nothing but a "trojan horse" to reduce the tax rate for the rich. There is a reason that supply side economics is not taught in any university or followed by any other country because it's complete and utter bull shit.

Thanks to deregulation in the 80's under Reagan, record numbers of mergers and acquisitions helped to consolidate power and money into the hands of the few and helped to pave the road to where we are today economically in this country.

 

[LAM]

however the democrats have their fare share of the blame for the economic policies and crisis of today. the Dems controlled both the House and Senate when legislation was passed in the mid 70's which basically handed over the US government to the corporate special interest system.

 

[bio-chem]

bio-chem,

Please explain your reponse to my post.

The US gov has promoted and implemented the SAME economic policies for the last 6 decades.

We are now reaping the result of it.

What can the President do?

Nothing.

The POTUS is controlled largely by an oligarchy: Large corporations, oil, AIPAC, Big Pharma, "free trade" and the Military Industrial Complex.

The POTUS has power, yes. But over the economy to such degree? No.

Laws, rules, regulations, lobbyists groups special interests, and also, Entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security.

you feel the president has very little to do with the middle class of the people in the united states? I find this statement not only ridiculous, but utterly offensive. the strength of america in my opinion is it's middle class. the middle class has been getting pinched for a long time now, but the idea that the president has little to do with this is a farce. president obama and his addition to the debt, or his new healthcare program as examples? these things have little effect upon the middle class? even saying that shows either severe stupidity (i don't think this is the case) or a feeling of intellectual elitism that in actuality only exists in your mind.

 

[KelJu]

Reagan had balls!

I would much rather he had brains. The policies of Regan began the process which has led to the largest division of wealth between the middle class and the rich since the the 20s. He was popular because he was an actor pretending to be a cowboy, and dumb fuck Americans ate it up.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

He wasn't Arnold. He ended up being one of the greatest presidents ever. There hasn't been anyone close since.

 

[KelJu]

There hasn't been anyone close since.

And how are you basing that? Based on most of your other observations lately, I assume you pulled that out of your ass.

Bill Clinton had a higher end of term approval rating than Reagen, and that was even after the dick sucking scandal. Do you bother to look up anything you say? Is everything just Fuck Obama fuck Mexicans! Woohoo!

 

[maniclion]

And how are you basing that? Based on most of your other observations lately, I assume you pulled that out of your ass.

Bill Clinton had a higher end of term approval rating than Reagen, and that was even after the dick sucking scandal. Do you bother to look up anything you say? Is everything just Fuck Obama fuck Mexicans! Woohoo!

He is a shoot from the hip republican through and through, don't even argue with him....

 

[bio-chem]

And how are you basing that? Based on most of your other observations lately, I assume you pulled that out of your ass.

Bill Clinton had a higher end of term approval rating than Reagen, and that was even after the dick sucking scandal. Do you bother to look up anything you say? Is everything just Fuck Obama fuck Mexicans! Woohoo!

personal opinion works just fine in this regards.

 

[jmorrison]

And how are you basing that? Based on most of your other observations lately, I assume you pulled that out of your ass.

Bill Clinton had a higher end of term approval rating than Reagen, and that was even after the dick sucking scandal. Do you bother to look up anything you say? Is everything just Fuck Obama fuck Mexicans! Woohoo!

Not to agree or disagree about the Reagan thing, but just pointing out that popularity really doesn't have much to do with anything. Clinton was massively popular, and he was a key player in ushering in NAFTA, which was at minimum one of the top three worst mistakes in American history.

 

[LAM]

He ended up being one of the greatest presidents ever.

only according to his fans, to those that know the truth he's a total joke.

Reagan was truly the anti-Jefferson, a B-movie actor who decided once he got his it was okay to screw everyone else. A man with no compassion, no intellect, and no morals - The God of the Right.

 

[KelJu]

How else to you base the value of an elected representative other than the general opinion of those he represented?

Am I missing something? The personal opinion of one person doesn't mean dogshit, and since everyone is going to have a slightly different opinion than the next, you pretty much have to base the quality of the job based on the average of everyone.

Aw fuck it. Nevermind! Raise the flag salute to Reagan, biggest dick and greatest ever! Woo fucking hoo!

 

[maniclion]

I don't have a favorite president I only have least favorite....for me they are all liars, cons and crooks Nixon being the worst of them... I feel it's only fair to rank the ones during my lifetime with GWB being my least favorite, followed by Reagan, Obama, George the 1st and Clinton...Carter was in while I was alive but don't remember any of it, I do rank him highly as a person though Habitat for Humanity being better than anything he did as Pres...

 

[bio-chem]

only according to his fans, to those that know the truth he's a total joke.

Reagan was truly the anti-Jefferson, a B-movie actor who decided once he got his it was okay to screw everyone else. A man with no compassion, no intellect, and no morals - The God of the Right.

I've always preferred adams to jefferson personally

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Just because Clinton was popular doesn't mean he was a good president. He was getting blow jobs in the oval office and then lied to congress. What a fuckin' dirtbag.

 

[vortrit]

Just because Clinton was popular doesn't mean he was a good president. He was getting blow jobs in the oval office and then lied to congress. What a fuckin' dirtbag.

Yeah, he lied about getting a blow-job. What a dirtbag.

 

[maniclion]

Just because Clinton was popular doesn't mean he was a good president. He was getting blow jobs in the oval office and then lied to congress. What a fuckin' dirtbag.

You get a blowjob you think you're King Shit, Clinton gets one and he is a dirt bag......hypocrite!

 

[bmw]

bros, they're politicians...

none of them are worth a shit anyway. They all set up their elite system to serve them and theirs and that's it. None of them give two shits about any of you, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

 

[vortrit]

You get a blowjob you think you're King Shit, Clinton gets one and he is a dirt bag......hypocrite!

Maybe he don't like blowjobs.

 

[TooOld]

bros, they're politicians...

none of them are worth a shit anyway. They all set up their elite system to serve them and theirs and that's it. None of them give two shits about any of you, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

Yup.

Why didn't Obama just give the rubber stamp response "it's all Bushes fault"? It least he's progressing from a crybaby to a bullshit artist.

 

[maniclion]

Maybe he don't like blowjobs.

Any man who don't like a blowjob must enjoy giving them instead.....you can quote me on that...

 

[TooOld]

I would much rather he had brains. The policies of Regan began the process which has led to the largest division of wealth between the middle class and the rich since the the 20s. He was popular because he was an actor pretending to be a cowboy, and dumb fuck Americans ate it up.

No, He was popular because the Carter years sucked. I remember my 19.5% interest payment on my first home and I was a lucky one with good credit and still it kicked my ass.

 

[LAM]

No, He was popular because the Carter years sucked. I remember my 19.5% interest payment on my first home and I was a lucky one with good credit and still it kicked my ass.

thank God Reagan & Bush froze the minimum wage for almost a decade, that really "helped" people out while inflation kept rising.

And interest rates rose during the late 70's because the Fed refused to print more money so technically that had nothing to do with Carter's economic policies.

 

[bmw]

thank God Reagan & Bush froze the minimum wage for almost a decade, that really "helped" people out while inflation kept rising.

And interest rates rose during the late 70's because the Fed refused to print more money so technically that had nothing to do with Carter's economic policies.

wait...what?

Better check that again. Inflation and high unemployment rates were rampant during the Carter years. I remember my parents and the news talking about the high rates of inflation (and interest on loans as another poster pointed out). When Reagan took office inflation went down.

 

[jmorrison]

Also the fed refused to print money because printing more money = more inflation.

 

[LAM]

wait...what?

Better check that again. Inflation and high unemployment rates were rampant during the Carter years. I remember my parents and the news talking about the high rates of inflation (and interest on loans as another poster pointed out). When Reagan took office inflation went down.

the economy had slowed after many robust years post WWII. we really weren't making anything new, mostly cars and construction still. remember the GDP is all about new goods and services, wall street, stocks, etc. are nothing but a distraction but most don't know that.

 

[bmw]

the economy had slowed after many robust years post WWII. we really weren't making anything new, mostly cars and construction still. remember the GDP is all about new goods and services, wall street, stocks, etc. are nothing but a distraction but most don't know that.

Yeah, I was responding to the part of your post about inflation rising during Reagan/Bush. When in fact, Inflation took a sharp upturn in the Carter era and a sharp fall when Reagan came into office.

Keeping it simple.

 

[clemson357]

what's he supposed to tell her the "real" truth because that would be that a lot of Americans are on their way to poverty and there is no way to prevent it. wages have not been keeping up with inflation, housing, energy costs, etc. for decades and this is not going to change. publicly traded companies like to see dividends on stock increase annually, it's all about the bottom line. there is no way to "force" companies to pay their employees more and there simply aren't enough high paying jobs for the spending habits of many americans. the costs of housing alone has increased over 1000% in the past 3 decades while wages have basically stayed the same. doesn't matter who is POTUS these numbers aren't going to change. if anything it will get worst with the next Republican POTUS and or Senate that favors deregulation as that leads to more M&A's which always lead to lay offs like we saw in the 80's.

You've really bought into the class warfare bullshit hook, line, and sinker.

When corporations pay dividends, who receives them? American investors, many of them being blue collar retirees. "Publicly traded" means anyone can buy into the profits. To listen to Democrats talk, you would think that all profit is evil, private corporations are evil, etc. How many Americans do you think are employed by private corporations? Without the private sector, there would be no wealth produced for your hero the obamessiah to leach off of and distribute to his entitlement-class supporters. Government doesn't produce wealth, it only confiscates it from the producers.

And here is some harsh reality for your whining about what corporations will pay. The value of your labor is quantifiable. If you want to make more, invest in yourself and learn a more valuable marketable skill. No one is going to pay you $20/hour to flip burgers, because it simply isn't worth that - it is a function of how many people are willing and capable to perform the job versus how many positions there are to fill. We live in a country where literally anyone can become a nurse or engineer or accountant, shit you could even become a doctor if you want to get serious. But the sad fact is most people would rather sit on their ass and then point their finger at the "evil" corporations.

 

[clemson357]

only according to his fans, to those that know the truth he's a total joke.

Reagan was truly the anti-Jefferson, a B-movie actor who decided once he got his it was okay to screw everyone else. A man with no compassion, no intellect, and no morals - The God of the Right.

Reagan's intellect could literally demolish you and your race-baiting teleprompter addict.

Compassion? Give me a fucking break. One of the first things Obama did when he got into office was end a very successful voucher program which gave inner city kids in DC, most of the minorities, a pathway out of the abject abysmal failure which is the DC public school system. Why? Because Democrats oppose school choice, especially for minorities. Vouchers are a threat to the lazy teachers union, which donates hundreds of millions a year to Democrats. Plus, Democrats depend on the uneducated welfare-addicted ghettos of the inner cities for votes. If those people were given an opportunity to become prosperous and self-reliant, they'd start voting for Republicans. Keep them addicted to government handouts, and they'll keep voting for Dimwitcrats.

 

[Big Smoothy]

LAM has a good point.

Like Reagan or not, he was not the sharpest tool in the shed, and that's why aids had so much power over his decisions (e.g. sending troops to Beruit).

Reagan talked about small government a lot - but he practiced big government, and expanded government just like Presidents before and after.

 

[LAM]

Reagan's intellect could literally demolish you and your race-baiting teleprompter addict.

Plus, Democrats depend on the uneducated welfare-addicted ghettos of the inner cities for votes. If those people were given an opportunity to become prosperous and self-reliant, they'd start voting for Republicans.

yea...I think you missed the short bus to school today..

electoral votes get presidential candidates elected to the office of POTUS not the popular vote, ..do you have ANY idea wtf you are talking about?

Did you read Reagan's Chief Budget Adivsor David A. Stockman's tell all book called "The Triumph of Politics"? you may want to before you talk about Reagan's "intellect" but he did get that "great" liberal arts degree from Eureaka college which probably isn't even accredited