**would appreciate your advice **

[TWOtime]

First off wanted to say whats up to everyone this is my first post on this forum,
soo...
im 21 years old im 6 foot and weight 185 pounds, i dont know my bf, but im assuming its any where from 12-16 % ballpark
ive been lifting weights ever since i was 16, i previously did my first cycle a few months back which was a dbol only 20mg a day cycle, the gains were pretty nice nothing to crazy...
so now, a friend of mine who is a lot older and bigger then i am gave me,
100 tabs of dbol- 10mg
100 tabs of winstrol also - 10mg
and some anti- e for after
so this is my QUESTION, he told me to take 30mg of dbol, plus 20mg of winstrol each day, from what ive read this is a no-no? but with the low doses i would be taking is it okay?
just wanted to hear some suggestions on how i should go upon this, i would appreciate all feed back. also any suggestions with pct, and cycle support.
thank you

 

[M-Rods]

 

[Oitepal]

Are you just going to take the orals or are you taking Test with it? Also I would not recommend taking both orals together because they both are liver toxic and I think you would get better results cycling them. Take alot of milk thisel for liver support. As far as PCT goes I would suggest you get some Tamoxifen(nolva) before you start anything just in case gyno issues pop up during or after cycle. Then for your regular PCT take Clomid. My buddy's do clomid and nolva at the same time I find that over kill but thats me. Also DO NOT start your cycle until you have your PCT!!!!!! Must be ready. Good luck

 

[Oitepal]

Also I seen you were doing 20mgs a day before of Dbol. Ya on a dose like that gains will be ok. Try 30mgs with that you will see nice results at a still safe dosing level.

 

[TWOtime]

Are you just going to take the orals or are you taking Test with it? Also I would not recommend taking both orals together because they both are liver toxic and I think you would get better results cycling them. Take alot of milk thisel for liver support. As far as PCT goes I would suggest you get some Tamoxifen(nolva) before you start anything just in case gyno issues pop up during or after cycle. Then for your regular PCT take Clomid. My buddy's do clomid and nolva at the same time I find that over kill but thats me. Also DO NOT start your cycle until you have your PCT!!!!!! Must be ready. Good luck

how would you recommend the way i cycle them if i shouldnt be talking both together.

 

[Oitepal]

Well Some of the guys I work out with will do Dbol through weeks 1-4 and then Winny through weeks 6-8 but they are also using test through out the cycle as well.

 

[Diesel618]

get some test bro. it will be well worth it.

Weeks 1-12: Test E - 500 mg's/week
Weeks 1-4: Dbol - 30 mg's/day
Weeks 10-14: winny - 30 mg's/day

I'd try to get some more winny and run it for 6 weeks at 50 mg/day to finish

PCT should be nolva or clomid + aromasin

 

[Oitepal]

get some test bro. it will be well worth it.

Weeks 1-12: Test E - 500 mg's/week
Weeks 1-4: Dbol - 30 mg's/day
Weeks 10-14: winny - 30 mg's/day

I'd try to get some more winny and run it for 6 weeks at 50 mg/day to finish

PCT should be nolva or clomid + aromasin

^^^^ this

Do that and you will see some really nice gains.

 

[brundel]

Your to young to be taking anything.

 

[brundel]

I know a guy who is 6 foot 200lbs with about the same BF% and he looks like he was just released from a prison camp.
Cycle this for about 3-4 more years.

 

[J.thom]

what I agree with brundel, you need to eat more.

 

[OutWhey]

just wanted to hear some suggestions on how i should go upon this, i would appreciate all feed back. also any suggestions with pct, and cycle support.
thank you

As far as liver support, I have been taking Need2Guard for a very long time now. I can tell a big difference in how my immune system recovers from a cycle with the product versus other cycle supports. Overall, I feel healthier.

 

[Daft205]

As far as liver support, I have been taking Need2Guard for a very long time now. I can tell a big difference in how my immune system recovers from a cycle with the product versus other cycle supports. Overall, I feel healthier.

Yep... A strong cycle support supp is probably a good idea, particularly with an oral only cycle.

 

[OfficerFarva]

I know a guy who is 6 foot 200lbs with about the same BF% and he looks like he was just released from a prison camp.
Cycle this for about 3-4 more years.

Lol, thats almost exactly what I had for dinner tonight!