At this point I'd be tempted to mention MBC except she'd probably hunt me donw and kick my ass.Robert DiMaggio said:hmmm...what vaginas have you been looking at?
trainers - nope that would not shock me, they are a dime a dozen and the majority do not know their ass from their elbows.david said:
still doesn't mean its a good thing IMO, I just dont like being around smokers. Its a habit that you get nothing out of, it shows a weakness of the mind, its a waste of money, and you get zero benefits from it.
Good point. Steroids are terrible for the human body, but that doesn't make professional bodybuilders less knowledgeable when it comes to training methods and the ins and outs of bodybuilding. As well, dropping below 5% body fat is certainly not healthy.nikegurl said:
that is an interesting perspective.david said:
If they had a track record of helping people attain their goals, then I'd jump on board, but like JersyDevil ... I'd be on his/her case constantly about their smoking habit. 
From what I understand steroids are very taxing on the liver, hypertension can result, immune function is lowered, certain other hormone levels are lowered, cholesterol levels increase, etc.Robert DiMaggio said:Please explain/elaborate.
oral steroids, namely 17aa's are taxing on the liver. besides that there isn't a "side effect" from using steroids that does not already occur naturally in the human body...CowPimp said:
Well I didn't just pull that information out of my ass. I did look into the side effects of anabolic steroids out of curiosity. Is there just a ridiculous amount of misinformation on steroids available or what?LAM said:
Yes, the side effects are exaggerated beyond belief, when in fact there is very little real evidence of any real damage done by steroids. When used "correctly", meaning reasonable dosages, done in cycles, etc., they are quite safe.CowPimp said:
Ohh, so this is what you know based on worst case scenarios from people who abuse it and dont monitor their health.CowPimp said:
Well now I know better. However, I still wouldn't consider doing steroids healthy. It's just like how marijuana is relatively safe, but that doesn't make it healthy.Robert DiMaggio said:
OMG! I kept thinking in lines of Tobacco but I forgot Marijuana! I know so many that use it and it's ridiculous and funny. Oh well.naturaltan said:that is an interesting perspective.
yes, and we owe that to the media...CowPimp said:
Whether it's considered safe or not, I just don't like the idea of toying with my hormones. Don't confuse that statement with a factual item; it is my opinion and I am not arguing that changing hormone levels is necessarily detremental to one's health. I just don't like the idea personally. At the age of 19, I'm too damned horny all the time to be increasing testosterone levels anyway.Mudge said:
thanks for perpetuating ignorance bro, it does us all so much good..
If you had continued to read, then you would have realized that I wasn't perpetuating ignorance intentionally. I did do research on the subject, but I came across misinformation. We have all been misinformed at one time or another. I corrected myself and admitted that I was wrong. There is nothing more that I can do.gr81 said:
