Would you use steroids if they were legalized?

[TrojanMan60563]

everyone talks about taking them under doctor supervision.....do you guys realize that doctors typically know jack shit about drugs and what they do to you right? A Pharmacist gets 120 hrs of training in drugs....doctors get 5 hours.....who do you think you should be asking about what drug to take? Your Pharmacist should be one of your good friends cause they know their shit. Don't get me wrong the doctor is superior in diagnosing your trouble....but I have more faith in my Pharmacist to tell me what drug is best for me...and how much to take.

 

[LAM]

With all the risks involved taking steroids, in my mind it is even more senseless for those that take them without any real justified reason.

....you say this but then you have taken M1T ? if you really "knew" anything about steroids you would know that a low dose of testosterone enanthate is 10x safer than even a short cycle of M1T...

stop bashing something which you obvisouly know nothing about...

 

[Cardinal]

My response. Chalk another one up for absolutely yes! But then again, steroids are legal for the moment and I already use them, so I guess the thread wasn't really designed for ppl like me to answer!

 

[Randy]

....you say this but then you have taken M1T ? if you really "knew" anything about steroids you would know that a low dose of testosterone enanthate is 10x safer than even a short cycle of M1T...

stop bashing something which you obvisouly know nothing about...

I say this even more strongly after taking M1T . I know enough about steroids to know they are not healthy for your body when taken the way most body builders and athletes use them for quick muscular growth. If I thought they were healthy and beneficial for recreational bodybuilding or other means I would surely get educated on them. I think anyone with just a fraction of common sense would know they are unhealthy. I also knew that the dose of M1T that I took was not healthy for my body, but took very small dose (10mg a day) . You don't have to come here and try to educate me on the safety comparison of various steroids Lam, don't blow off steam at me cause of my own opinion. If you feel steroids are safe for you, go right ahead and take them. I've heard this story far to many times from you and others trying to defend and justify their steroid use . I'm not here to point fingers. Again I am just stating my humble opinion. Can people minimize the majority of the risks associated with steroids if taken in the proper doses? Sure they can. Does this mean they are healthy for your body? Hell no. Now if you believe that then I have a bridge in Brookland that I will sell you. .

Now Lam, I know you can come back and throw more steroid safety speels at me... But let's just say this... Those of us who prefer to be natural and do not believe steroids are healthy for them, please respect that. In return, I will respect your choice. Does that sound fair?

 

[LAM]

If I thought they were healthy and beneficial for recreational bodybuilding or other means I would surely get educated on them. I think anyone with just a fraction of common sense would know they are unhealthy.

you make a blanket statement about "steroids" not being healthy for the body but then you admit that you really don't know anything about them.

what do you think HRT doctors specialize in ? what do you think they use ? hmmm..maybe steroids ?

 

[JerseyDevil]

Ignorance is bliss .

 

[JerseyDevil]

Just to firm up my position, a well designed and executed steroid cycle is far safer then the fast food crap Randy eats every week.

 

[Randy]

Go ahead guys... keep making yourselves feel better

Talk about ignorance

 

[Randy]

you make a blanket statement about "steroids" not being healthy for the body but then you admit that you really don't know anything about them.

what do you think HRT doctors specialize in ? what do you think they use ? hmmm..maybe steroids ?

LAM,

For supervised medical situations I'm sure they can be benefical to many people. I know there are many medicines as a matter of fact that contain steroids. But as I said before, steroids intended for recreation body building or sport events used to provide one with rapid muscle growth in my opinion would be obviously not healthy. I hope those taking them are completely educated in using them and do take the proper doses to minimize side affects. And I hope for those people they live long and prosperous lives. But again I'm asking you to respect those natural body builders that would prefer the natural way... like myself.

And Yes, there are lots of things that you can compare in this world that are bad for you... The key here is to minimize ones bad habbits and try to stay away from things that you know is harmful to your health. This doesn't mean that people are supposed to live in a plastic bubble either. Yes, I think everyone has consumed fast food in their lives. Don't compare that to steroids though,.... that is a weak comparison, as I don't eat fast food every week In fact I don't eat fast food much at all. I might have a broiled chicken sandwich at Carls once every 6 months or so... Shoot me!!!

 

[Randy]

Ignorance is bliss .

You should go into the bumper sticker business Jersey

Stick it next to this one....

Save your balls by Bodybuilding the Natural Way

and

Lift Natural and live to be 100


Hell, you could probably even make it past 100 to eat some fast food yourself

 

[JerseyDevil]

Who isn't respecting your opinion? The point is Randy, you preach about the danger and risks, then admit you haven't educated yourself about them. So how can you make a valid point if you don't know a thing about them? The definition of ignorance is the lack of knowledge or education. Do you know what the risks even are? Do you know how you can minimize the risks? Did you know that M1t is maybe the most dangerous steroid out there in terms of side effects?

I proud of the fact I've trained naturally for 14 years. About 3 years ago my doctor prescribed me Androgel which is transdermal testosterone. About 100mg/wk gets my test levels in the middle of the normal range. Frankly, as far as my workouts went I couldn't tell any difference, but it sure improved my sex drive . A year after that, I decided to try prohormones and did 1AD, then later m1t/4AD. I liked it, so I made the decision to try the so-called 'real' thing to basically see what its like. I have blood tests done 3 times a year for liver enzymes, cholesterol, PSA, and regularly monitor bp and RPR. I also have my test levels checked once a year. I've done two cycles, and will probably do a few more, then call it quits. I can tell you right now that the steroids with the most risk are the orals - ie anadrol, M1t, dianabol, etc. A straight testosterone cycle for 10-12 weeks is very, very low risk. Oh and about the ball thing? Use of hcg during a cycle (HRT docs prescribe this also) twice a week at a very low dose, prevents any shrinkage and keeps the boys nice'n'big'n'bouncy.

One last thing. Although I wouldn't say that, some people would consider you 'unnatural' now since you've done that 1 m1t cycle. You gearhead you .

 

[gococksDJS]

I'm definitely going to run HCG with all future M1T cycles. During my cycle all i had was a flap of skin hanging from my dong. There were no balls in my ballbag.

 

[shutupntra1n]

I do my little simple ph/ps cycles and I think steroids should be legalized for everyone above the age of 21. Since it's not a mind altering drug I think it should be a matter of personal choice. Although I don't use AS b/c the cost and upkeep would be too much at my level, I do not feel anyone should not be able to use them. As for the dangers... all I have to say is tabacco and alcohol????

If I had more $$$, wanted to compete nationally and they were legal

 

[shutupntra1n]

I'm definitely going to run HCG with all future M1T cycles. During my cycle all i had was a flap of skin hanging from my dong. There were no balls in my ballbag.

 

[madden player]

Doesnt make a difference if they're illegal or not, that has no bearing on the decision for me

Ditto.

 

[madden player]

One last thing. Although I wouldn't say that, some people would consider you 'unnatural' now since you've done that 1 m1t cycle. You gearhead you .

I consider him 'natural' now..but once you try 'steroids' just once, you are no longer natural for life. JMHO.

My first cycle will definetly not be M1-T (The ill pill).

 

[X-Cop]

I hear about steroids all the time... The thing is, after 14 as a cop I've never busted anyone using or possession them.

If they were legal, yeah I'd use them. In a friggin second.

 

[JoeR.]

In the future, hell yes.

 

[Randy]

Ok Jersey Devel,

I'm just leaving this one be.
Let's just say that "The Tribe has Spoken" and I am blowing out the torch

Who isn't respecting your opinion? The point is Randy, you preach about the danger and risks, then admit you haven't educated yourself about them. So how can you make a valid point if you don't know a thing about them? The definition of ignorance is the lack of knowledge or education. Do you know what the risks even are? Do you know how you can minimize the risks? Did you know that M1t is maybe the most dangerous steroid out there in terms of side effects?


I proud of the fact I've trained naturally for 14 years. About 3 years ago my doctor prescribed me Androgel which is transdermal testosterone. About 100mg/wk gets my test levels in the middle of the normal range. Frankly, as far as my workouts went I couldn't tell any difference, but it sure improved my sex drive . A year after that, I decided to try prohormones and did 1AD, then later m1t/4AD. I liked it, so I made the decision to try the so-called 'real' thing to basically see what its like. I have blood tests done 3 times a year for liver enzymes, cholesterol, PSA, and regularly monitor bp and RPR. I also have my test levels checked once a year. I've done two cycles, and will probably do a few more, then call it quits. I can tell you right now that the steroids with the most risk are the orals - ie anadrol, M1t, dianabol, etc. A straight testosterone cycle for 10-12 weeks is very, very low risk. Oh and about the ball thing? Use of hcg during a cycle (HRT docs prescribe this also) twice a week at a very low dose, prevents any shrinkage and keeps the boys nice'n'big'n'bouncy.

One last thing. Although I wouldn't say that, some people would consider you 'unnatural' now since you've done that 1 m1t cycle. You gearhead you .

 

[Randy]

Ok Jersey Devil,

I'm just leaving this one be.
Let's just say that "The Tribe has Spoken" and I am blowing out the torch

Who isn't respecting your opinion? The point is Randy, you preach about the danger and risks, then admit you haven't educated yourself about them. So how can you make a valid point if you don't know a thing about them? The definition of ignorance is the lack of knowledge or education. Do you know what the risks even are? Do you know how you can minimize the risks? Did you know that M1t is maybe the most dangerous steroid out there in terms of side effects?


I proud of the fact I've trained naturally for 14 years. About 3 years ago my doctor prescribed me Androgel which is transdermal testosterone. About 100mg/wk gets my test levels in the middle of the normal range. Frankly, as far as my workouts went I couldn't tell any difference, but it sure improved my sex drive . A year after that, I decided to try prohormones and did 1AD, then later m1t/4AD. I liked it, so I made the decision to try the so-called 'real' thing to basically see what its like. I have blood tests done 3 times a year for liver enzymes, cholesterol, PSA, and regularly monitor bp and RPR. I also have my test levels checked once a year. I've done two cycles, and will probably do a few more, then call it quits. I can tell you right now that the steroids with the most risk are the orals - ie anadrol, M1t, dianabol, etc. A straight testosterone cycle for 10-12 weeks is very, very low risk. Oh and about the ball thing? Use of hcg during a cycle (HRT docs prescribe this also) twice a week at a very low dose, prevents any shrinkage and keeps the boys nice'n'big'n'bouncy.

One last thing. Although I wouldn't say that, some people would consider you 'unnatural' now since you've done that 1 m1t cycle. You gearhead you .

 

[Tha Don]

if roids were legal everyone would be juicing, the whole sports/fitness industry would be reshaped and 99% of athletes would be running something

there would probably be tons of info and guidelines to using roids the right way - safely and effectively and obviously if there were any disasters it would be put down to misuse (which it should be) rather than roids being dangerous and unsafe (which is bullsh*t)

there would be non of these dazzley new supps being promoted in the magz, the whole supp. industry would be selling roids

opinions would be hugely different on them too, without clueless idiots bashing them and trying to scare ppl away from them

imagine that.... ain't gonna happen in our lifetimes, maybe one day

 

[Randy]

Young,

I hope you weren't refering to me as a clueless idiot?
I clearly was not bashing them. I simply stated my opinion. Please don't refer to people as idiots for doing that. And I sure was not trying to scare people away from them. Do you think what I or anyone else against steroid use would do that? That's like your mommy saying "You know how alcohol is bad for you - whatever you do, don't drink!" Are you going to avoid drinking?

As I had said, I can respect those that use steroids... It's their choice. I'm not calling them idiots, and would appreciate that you don't call us idiots.

 

[easton]

whilst i would love to make gains faster, id have to say no i wouldnt use them.

apart frmo the fact that i will be tested for use at national hockey tournaments, i would rather know i did it all naturally.

no judgement on people who use though.

 

[Velvet]

whilst i would love to make gains faster, id have to say no i wouldnt use them.

apart frmo the fact that i will be tested for use at national hockey tournaments, i would rather know i did it all naturally.

no judgement on people who use though.

My sentiments exactly! Well except for the hockey part

 

[easton]

My sentiments exactly! Well except for the hockey part

 

[david]

Yes.

 

[Flex]

I see no point in using lots of AS unless you intend on competing any furthering on in bb.

I'm curious as to why not?
Many people say this, but i don't understand why.

It's the same question as "Why lift if you don't intend on competing?"

 

[Flex]

in my mind it is even more senseless for those that take them without any real justified reason. At least those in competition have some just cause for the risk. Even Arnold...he accepted the risks in exchange for his fame and fortune..

See, its ridiculous statements like this that i don't understand

So you're saying when he took dbol at age 15, Arnold knew he was going to win Mr. O. 7x's, dominate Hollywood, make millions, then become Governor?
That's absurd.

Most pro's start juicing at a young age in their lives, and any that say they don't is straight up lying.

BTW, It's more of a risk to drive your car, or smoke cigarettes, or drink alcohol than it is to take steroids, assuming you know what you're doing.

 

[Flex]

I know enough about steroids to know they are not healthy for your body when taken the way most body builders and athletes use them for quick muscular growth.

Those of us who prefer to be natural and do not believe steroids are healthy for them, please respect that. In return, I will respect your choice. Does that sound fair?

Exactly, you know NOTHING about steroids, so leave them alone. If they are SO unhealthy, PROVE IT.

Until then, for those of us who prefer to be unnatural and do believe steroids are ok for your health, please respect that. In return, I will respect your choice.

 

[Randy]

Exactly, you know NOTHING about steroids, so leave them alone. If they are SO unhealthy, PROVE IT.

Until then, for those of us who prefer to be unnatural and do believe steroids are ok for your health, please respect that. In return, I will respect your choice.

Ok Flex, just before your ass dies (far prematurely) I will knock on your door and tell you I told you so

Seriously buddy, I don't have to prove anything. Again, it is my opinion. You go right ahead doing what your doing...