Yay! Republicans!!

[bio-chem]

No it's our fault for continuing to buy from these companies who turn traitor to their own country, they aren't doing it just for tax cuts...they are going for cheap labor and not having to pay for health insurance, not to mention tax incentives in the countries they are moving to..... And then they rub it in our face by saying shit like "Our tech support will be open on Christmas day!" Of course it will, not many Indians celebrate christian holidays....

im going to have to disagree with you on this one. i'm too much of a capitalist pig. we buy from wall mart because they are cheap and don't care about their business practices. corporations are the same way. if they can cut costs they will do it. and should in my opinion.

 

[LAM]

im going to have to disagree with you on this one. i'm too much of a capitalist pig. we buy from wall mart because they are cheap and don't care about their business practices. corporations are the same way. if they can cut costs they will do it. and should in my opinion.

but at what costs? the obsession with our society and the accumulation of wealth has created a very sick sense of business. goods and services are beyond the costs of many thanks to low and stagnant wages in many markets and the lack of high paying jobs, there just aren't that many. companies constantly raising the costs of goods and services to increase profits and yearly dividends to shareholders.

the middle class in American has no more money to spend. opening up credit markets in the 90s allowed many to continue to spend much more than they made. there is no way to fix this anytime soon, and this is good how? for the sake of "free enterprise"?

 

[maniclion]

im going to have to disagree with you on this one. i'm too much of a capitalist pig. we buy from wall mart because they are cheap and don't care about their business practices. corporations are the same way. if they can cut costs they will do it. and should in my opinion.

In my opinion this is the main reason our country is going down the shitter and China is starting to prosper, how can we compete against slave labor? How many of our manufacturing jobs have been lost to moves overseas? And then manufacturers here have to drop their prices to compete against the shoddy workmanship of Chinese made products, yet still keep the quality up. This above all else infuriates me....

 

[bio-chem]

but at what costs? the obsession with our society and the accumulation of wealth has created a very sick sense of business. goods and services are beyond the costs of many thanks to low and stagnant wages in many markets and the lack of high paying jobs, there just aren't that many. companies constantly raising the costs of goods and services to increase profits and yearly dividends to shareholders.

the middle class in American has no more money to spend. opening up credit markets in the 90s allowed many to continue to spend much more than they made. there is no way to fix this anytime soon, and this is good how? for the sake of "free enterprise"?

I have many issues of the policies being taken, but I've yet to see any other countries economic structure work better than "free enterprise". Communism? even communists agree that communism doesn't work. socialism? after a time period they always start to open the market back to free enterprise policies.

 

[GearsMcGilf]

You're right. Too bad we lost so many dem seats. Everyone knows they're not corrupt and don't take campaign contributions from special interest groups who expect favours in return.

Some common sense regulation of the financial industry isn't necessarily a bad thing. You can also try to blame the GOP for the whole mess. But, your guys Dodd and Frank presided over the collapse of Fannie & Freddie. It's just what happens when you put politicians in charge of entities they have no clue how to run. How about the regulations that forced banks to make loans to people who can't afford them? Ever heard of CRA?

Anyhoo, if Reagan was such an idiot and your guys are so brilliant, why was his administration such a success and your guys can't seem to get anything right these days? Seriously, the dems can NOT run on a single accomplishment they've made in the 4 years they've had power now.

lol at quoting an idiot like Reagan...I love it when people talk about the Dems and Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.

GOP sponsored deregulation in the 80's and the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act by Republicans Phill Gram and Jim Leach allowed certain banks to become to big to fail you might want to check and see who their biggest campaign contributors where...

Regardless of the legislation passed by the Dems in the 90's to open up housing to the poor, etc. ultimately the loan terms were decided upon by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, nothing at all to do with the Democrats. Only a freaking moron would sell somebody a house when they can't come up with the down-payment! the fact that they can't come up with the 20% down-payment tells you that they don't have the skills to save the monies.

But for the most part the lack of regulation and over-site on Wall Street allowed these banks to sell these toxic loans and assets with no risks. The US taxpayers were set up and the people running those banks knew it and constant GOP sponsored deregulation of banking allowed it to happen.

 

[bio-chem]

In my opinion this is the main reason our country is going down the shitter and China is starting to prosper, how can we compete against slave labor? How many of our manufacturing jobs have been lost to moves overseas? And then manufacturers here have to drop their prices to compete against the shoddy workmanship of Chinese made products, yet still keep the quality up. This above all else infuriates me....

drop the corporate tax rate, and companies don't leave. right now it is cheaper for them to ship shit across the pacific. that shows right there how high our tax rates are. the taxes are so high here that they can save money making something in another country and paying the fuel costs to get it here?

 

[awhites1]

 

[min0 lee]

The house is ours!

You know what happened after the last time Republicans had a House majority of this size? The Great Depression!

 

[bio-chem]

You know what happened after the last time Republicans had a House majority of this size? The Great Depression!

didn't the Republicans have a large majority during Clinton's term?

 

[Dale Mabry]

drop the corporate tax rate, and companies don't leave. right now it is cheaper for them to ship shit across the pacific. that shows right there how high our tax rates are. the taxes are so high here that they can save money making something in another country and paying the fuel costs to get it here?

Come on, you could drop their tax rate to 0% here and it would still be cheaper to manufacture overseas with virtually no cost for materials or facilities and paying wages at $.50 an hour with no benefits, no time off, no over time. What's worse is that it costs a shit ton to ship it back to us so the gap in what they are saving on labor must be ridiculous.

 

[LAM]

You're right. Too bad we lost so many dem seats. Everyone knows they're not corrupt and don't take campaign contributions from special interest groups who expect favours in return.

Some common sense regulation of the financial industry isn't necessarily a bad thing. You can also try to blame the GOP for the whole mess. But, your guys Dodd and Frank presided over the collapse of Fannie & Freddie. It's just what happens when you put politicians in charge of entities they have no clue how to run. How about the regulations that forced banks to make loans to people who can't afford them? Ever heard of CRA?

Anyhoo, if Reagan was such an idiot and your guys are so brilliant, why was his administration such a success and your guys can't seem to get anything right these days? Seriously, the dems can NOT run on a single accomplishment they've made in the 4 years they've had power now.

oh yes the glorious 80's! tons of mergers and acquisitions that helped to consolidate wealth and power into the hands of the few. Exactly how much money in tax revenues did Reagan collected in constant dollars while he ran up the deficit?

I've been writing loans off and on since '94 so I have heard of CRA. But CRA has nothing at all to do with the guidelines set by the mortgage underwriters who ultimately have the say if a loan gets approved or not.

 

[maniclion]

drop the corporate tax rate, and companies don't leave. right now it is cheaper for them to ship shit across the pacific. that shows right there how high our tax rates are. the taxes are so high here that they can save money making something in another country and paying the fuel costs to get it here?

No we the people need to tell these companies we're not going to stand for them abandoning us and ruining our economy, taking away our jobs and leaving us with shit products we have to replace every 5 years or that will kill our babies because the countries they move to have no regulation....a simple tax cut isn't going to compete against slave labor, cutting corners because no one is making sure these foreign countries are following any standards, cheap facilities because they don't have to deal with keeping it safe like in the US where organizations like OSHA will fine you for not having a first aid kit...and so many other reasons.....nope the burden is on us.

 

[Dale Mabry]

didn't the Republicans have a large majority during Clinton's term?

Funny how that happens, eh? So the rather than elect 100 people on polar opposite sides of the political spectrum, why don't we elect 50 of the ones in the middle?

 

[min0 lee]

didn't the Republicans have a large majority during Clinton's term?

and according to some they were the worst of times.

 

[min0 lee]

This is a bigger victory.

Republicans win most legislative seats in generations

Republicans won smashing victories in state legislatures yesterday, capturing an outright majority of the nation's legislative seats and the largest majority for the party since 1928.

 

[maniclion]

Come on, you could drop their tax rate to 0% here and it would still be cheaper to manufacture overseas with virtually no cost for materials or facilities and paying wages at $.50 an hour with no benefits, no time off, no over time. What's worse is that it costs a shit ton to ship it back to us so the gap in what they are saving on labor must be ridiculous.

Exactly....and then because prices are so low for those products American companies in competitive markets have to cut their margins so low they can't pay fair wages...granted a tax cut would help these companies, but it shouldn't come down to that not with our our financial troubles... And you know who is making out like bandits, the oil companies keeping those container ships launching back and forth yet we still give those bastards tax breaks and subsidies....

 

[LAM]

In my opinion this is the main reason our country is going down the shitter and China is starting to prosper, how can we compete against slave labor? How many of our manufacturing jobs have been lost to moves overseas? And then manufacturers here have to drop their prices to compete against the shoddy workmanship of Chinese made products, yet still keep the quality up. This above all else infuriates me....

We need to start innovating and making things again vs being a nation of consumers, we can't afford it. the difference between wages in manufacturing jobs and the service jobs that replaced them in the US is only about 10%.

people need to start living with in their means, saving for houses and families "before" having them like they used to before the 70's ,etc. If you can't afford to save up the 20% for a down payment for the house, you shouldn't be able to buy it. for the most part the American people need to stop living and spending money like poor people do, they need to delay gratification and stop living for today.

 

[SpyWizard]

Nah, at beast, the Obama admin just won't be able to make things any worse for the time being. Hopefully, they'll be able to repeal most of the healthcare disaster, completely shelve the cap and tax scam, and keep taxes from going up next year. We prolly will have a double dip recession (although I think we've been in a depression for at least two years now), but it would be a lot longer and deeper if more of Obama's agenda were to get rammed thru.

sorry brother 6 billion in bail out money that is in place to be released... double digit inflation and the further devaluation of the dollar..

I've been saying for the past 3 yrs.. buy gold.. and eliminate interest payments.. because the cash you have today will be work 2--30% less tomorrow..

 

[lnvanry]

bio-chem,

Are you a multi-millionaire?

The reason I ask is because I am curious why you think that the Republican party represents and benefits anyone besides millionaires?

If I recall Bush passed around 8 tax cuts in his term ALL of which only benefited the very rich.

you are assuming that everyone votes with the pocket book...there is a whole slew of people that straighline vote b/c its aligned with their social ideologies.

 

[LAM]

You're right. Too bad we lost so many dem seats. Everyone knows they're not corrupt and don't take campaign contributions from special interest groups who expect favours in return.

of course they take campaign contributions but they don't favor legislation and economic policy that allows business to rape the pockets of the tax payers for the sake of higher profits. at least the Dems try to give back to the people and make society better her in the US what does the GOP do or have done?

like that POS John Boehner...can't wait to repeal health care reform so those insurance companies can continue to raise premiums, bankrupt families all for the sake of "economic prosperity" for some...

 

[GearsMcGilf]

Big insurance took part in designing this bill you dumbass. They knew it was going to be passed no matter what. That's why there is no govt takeover of the industry, yet there is a mandate that everyone of us has to buy health insurance, and the insurance companies can raise premiums, as necessary, to absorb all of the new cost of insuring another 30 million people. Yes, this is exactly what we needed.

And sorry to burst your bubble. But, your guys do favor policies that would rape the average tax payer and benefit the filthy rich. Cap and Trade is among the worst of them. The only ones that would benefit are the utility companies, as well as the likes of people like Al Gore that were instrumental in founding the new exchanges for carbon offsets and stand to make billions when and if it passes.

 

[bio-chem]

Come on, you could drop their tax rate to 0% here and it would still be cheaper to manufacture overseas with virtually no cost for materials or facilities and paying wages at $.50 an hour with no benefits, no time off, no over time. What's worse is that it costs a shit ton to ship it back to us so the gap in what they are saving on labor must be ridiculous.

I would honestly like to see some numbers on this. i truthfully believe dropping the corporate tax rate would bring business back here to the united states.

 

[bio-chem]

We need to start innovating and making things again vs being a nation of consumers, we can't afford it. the difference between wages in manufacturing jobs and the service jobs that replaced them in the US is only about 10%.

people need to start living with in their means, saving for houses and families "before" having them like they used to before the 70's ,etc. If you can't afford to save up the 20% for a down payment for the house, you shouldn't be able to buy it. for the most part the American people need to stop living and spending money like poor people do, they need to delay gratification and stop living for today.

agreed. would be nice to see our government live by the same policy

 

[bmw]

I personally dont like working 3 jobs and giving 30% off the top to "poor" people. I was poor, like one gas burner in the winter poor, grew up on food stamps and such. It wasnt because my dad was disabled, had alot to do with him being lazy and not wanting a job. I worked my ARSE off to make the money I have now. Im happy to say Im republican. Ive worked hard for my money.

No WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to some people here, what you've done is just absolutely IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!! You overcame your environment, rose from a poor beginning of having virtually nothing, and actually have accomplished something in your life and either are financially stable or comfortable, or are on the path to such a lifestyle? And dare I say, possibly even able to primarily fund your own retirement?

I just can't believe your story. You must have started off rich.

 

[irish_2003]

i'm against obamacare.......i don't have insurance and frankly I DON'T NEED IT......anytime i go to urgent care i pay cash up front or have it billed and pay it......i'm a single healthy male and i for one will pay the no insurance fine which is cheaper than paying for healthcare under obamacare if it's not reapealed......i also don't want to pay for illegals....i would prefer to have a shoot at will policy towards anyone not of irish decent lol!!!

 

[LAM]

agreed. would be nice to see our government live by the same policy

government spending wasn't "that" bad until Nixon took the US off the gold standard but yes that's a big part of the problem....unlimited credit with out the means to make payment got the US to were it is today..

the question is how do we reduce the military budget which is crippling this country financially when many people are still living scared from the Cold War and the threat of terrorism today that is severely exaggerated by people like Glen Beck and his chicken little routine?

 

[bio-chem]

government spending wasn't "that" bad until Nixon took the US off the gold standard but yes that's a big part of the problem....unlimited credit with out the means to make payment got the US to were it is today..

the question is how do we reduce the military budget which is crippling this country financially when many people are still living scared from the Cold War and the threat of terrorism today that is severely exaggerated by people like Glen Beck and his chicken little routine?

So it wasn't that bad since before I was born? yeah, its that bad.

Terrorism is severely exaggerated? I love how you say that just days after a terrorism plot was stopped. Terrorism is a part of our life today in the US. we often times overlook it in my opinion because its been 9 years since something happened on American soil, but terrorism is ongoing. I want a strong military not to be confused with a big military and I would much rather our tax dollars be spent on the military than on healthcare for instance. The founders believed that the military was a responsibility of the government. healthcare isn't.

 

[GearsMcGilf]

government spending wasn't "that" bad until Nixon took the US off the gold standard but yes that's a big part of the problem....unlimited credit with out the means to make payment got the US to were it is today..

the question is how do we reduce the military budget which is crippling this country financially when many people are still living scared from the Cold War and the threat of terrorism today that is severely exaggerated by people like Glen Beck and his chicken little routine?

Sure, there's no threat of muslim terrorism. It's all an illusion created by Glenn Beck. The guy that planted the bomb in Times Square was just fukkin with us.

 

[LAM]

Terrorism is severely exaggerated? I love how you say that just days after a terrorism plot was stopped. Terrorism is a part of our life today in the US. we often times overlook it in my opinion because its been 9 years since something happened on American soil, but terrorism is ongoing. I want a strong military not to be confused with a big military and I would much rather our tax dollars be spent on the military than on healthcare for instance. The founders believed that the military was a responsibility of the government. healthcare isn't.

as we have seen spending billions on our military and continuing to go into debut can't stop a low budget terrorist attack. safety is an illusion

 

[bio-chem]

as we have seen spending billions on our military and continuing to go into debut can't stop a low budget terrorist attack. safety is an illusion

haven't had a successful attack on US soil in 9 years! safety isn't an illusion. it isn't a certainty either, but I give mad props to our guys. they are doing a hell of a job, and should be allowed the resources needed to keep it up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40003726/ns/us_news-airliner_security/?GT1=43001 17 minutes away from going off?