Young D's First AAS Cycle

[The Grafter]

Good luck with your cycle bro, I know you've done loads of research so ignore the pricks on here who are trying to make you doubt yourself.

 

[Tom84]

thanks Tom, yeah this is it! everything is gonna be logged in here (weight, BF%, lifts, side effects, blood pressure and so on) should be an insightful and interesting read

lol sorry bro got the link from your sig (can just here ppl sayin fuckin stupid newbie)

yep will be 4 sure enjoyed reading are 1ad cycles was good in comparison il see how this cycle goes for you as it will probably be very similar to my first AAS cycle if not identical. Again good luck bro

 

[Tom84]

Just read through the full thread, I think negative comments in someones thread from someone with only 20% experience of the thread host is very derogatory.
Personally im quite new to this site and havent come across u before sox but ive known D through the forums for a long time and I know how hard he has to work for gains and how ready he is to do this cycle.
Anyway I really dont wanna reignite that argument and ruin his thread just needed to be said.
Take it easy bro

And mate what ever happened to David (know his forum was closed down) got an email telling me he was a scammer from the webhost.

 

[Pirate!]

And mate what ever happened to David (know his forum was closed down) got an email telling me he was a scammer from the webhost.

Sorry to go off topic, but I seriously doubt David was a scammer.

 

[tryintogetbig]

HEY Young D,

why don't you just start a new journal there are sooo many other topics in here besides your training,

 

[Tom84]

Sorry to go off topic, but I seriously doubt David was a scammer.

yeah me too his forum was called houseofjuice.co.uk but was somehow linked to musclechat.co.uk. The owner of the second sold the forum name to the owner of the first.I was a member of both. H of J got closed down for some reason and i was emailed from the admin staff of one of the boards cant remember which saying David was a scammer. I thought no way he'd given me sources before who were Uk and I still use to this day. The owner of MC and David fell out badly over this I don't really know much more than that. Most of the quality members of Mc have left now anyway to be honest.

Ain't that right D?

sorry to invade your thread again bro. Lemme know how its goin. peace.

 

[redspy]

How's it going YD?

 

[Mags]

I think everyone in here needs to have one big hug,ha. Thought we were tuned into an episode of Trisha, ha. I guess everyone has their opinion, just strange how it can flare up into such a bitching handbag bust up. Hopefully now everyones chilled out abit. Anyway D, hope the shots are easier. Glad you feel that the juice is starting to kick in now, the fun part begins! How you getting on with ya Dbol (they the pink pentagon shaped ones?), hope they're doing their bit. You getting much of a puffy/bloated look yet? Keep training, eating and juicing and hopefully you'll be a monster in 10 weeks! Bosh!

 

[tryintogetbig]

Young D have you given up on the journal????????????????????????????????

 

[kingprop]

Sorry to hijack the thread. Just wanted to put my point across reference MC and Steve shutting me down (Im david btw)
The truth is he wanted to not only charge for the source list (my list actually) but he also insisted on the mods deleting any threads that would take away business from his sponsors (Extreme, animal paks) He is relying on a google ranking to entice newbies to buy that crap at inflated prices. I objected strongly, he banned me and shut the site down he sold me (He set it up and kept a back door)
It was him that mailed my members with the scammer alert. Don't know how I can scam as I dont sell anything.

MC has now bit the dust anyways..

Sorry again all. Good luck YD.

 

[Tom84]

Sorry Si gonna hijack your thread again. Yeah I know steve deleted alot of threads where I told ppl these products were overpriced I got banned for a pm where I basically said that Steve knew nothing about AAS to Si (Young D), (Godfather on MC). When he tried to charge for the sourcing section that was ridiculous and gary tried to cover it up for him saying that the measure was never intended to make money yeah right. I dont know how he expected ppl to seriously buy that u were a scammer. Cant stand the guy. His site is shite.
Anyway sorry Si hows it goin bro.

 

[Tha Don]

Good luck with your cycle bro, I know you've done loads of research so ignore the pricks on here who are trying to make you doubt yourself.

thanks for coming over here bro, i'll c u down hoofers get ready to watch me blow up!

 

[Tha Don]

Young D have you given up on the journal????????????????????????????????

hell no! the journal is gonna keep running no matter what, just wanted to let things cool down a bit

 

[Tha Don]

Sorry to hijack the thread. Just wanted to put my point across reference MC and Steve shutting me down (Im david btw)
The truth is he wanted to not only charge for the source list (my list actually) but he also insisted on the mods deleting any threads that would take away business from his sponsors (Extreme, animal paks) He is relying on a google ranking to entice newbies to buy that crap at inflated prices. I objected strongly, he banned me and shut the site down he sold me (He set it up and kept a back door)
It was him that mailed my members with the scammer alert. Don't know how I can scam as I dont sell anything.

MC has now bit the dust anyways..

Sorry again all. Good luck YD.

no problem David, similar sort of thing happened to me on that site, i was made moderator shortly after you left and the site got a bit of a make-over, i made a real contribution to that site, only to get insulted by garry (and chums) and then booted and banned by steve, the site did actually pick up after he made me mod, i bought over 5-6 guys from here and muscletalk, no suprise to see the place is dead again now!

that place was all about arse kissing, everyone on there sucks up to garry and steve, if you don't give them any sucky-sucky they won't like you, they feel that because they are 'older' they expect all of the younger guys to respect them, but i wasn't down with that, in fact i didn't have much respect for them at all because they knew jack all about BBing or AS (Tom remember the 17aa thread? ), also i knew there was a MC source list, but i got plenty of PM's for sources and i would recommend them to sources of my own, so i doubt they liked that! and 'thebigskev', a fat newbie being made a mod after 3 months of training??? HAHAHA! i'm real happy i'm no longer associated with that place!

anyways thanks for clearing things up David

 

[Tha Don]

How's it going YD?

yeah, i think the dbol is starting to kick in, fair bit of water retention on me now, but its managable, i seem to be waking up heavier everyday! its pretty crazy! i've been napping/sleeping a lot during the day... my sleep is all over the place right now prob ain't helping, but i'm trying to get back on schedule, could it be the dbol is making me lethargic?

diet has been a little poor, over the last week (just skipping/delaying the odd meal here n' there), i'm definately going to start eating big from now on

yesterday was lats/traps/f.arms and all i can say is my rows were awesome! i've been pushing out around the 8x80kg mark lately but yesterday i just kept putting weight on and got up to 6x95kg (last couple i forced out a bit), but it felt great! my strength has been down ever since my cutting nightmare, i'm still a bit off what i was lifting on 1-ad but i reckon over the next week i'm gonna be back up to those sorts of numbers

injections are going fine, i actually quite look forward to them now, get a bit of a buzz out of it, and this is coming from a guy that was scared shitless about the thought of jabbing himself before this! but i think i'm truely over my needle phobia, still rotating L-R glute and its going fine, plenty of room back there, and no soreness/discomfort at all now, i found massaging the site right after shooting really helps!

so its going pretty good so far, i just want to get my diet sorted, and get a bit more focused in the gym, i've had a few personal issues to deal with over the past couple of weeks but they seem to be out the way now and i'm excited again about the cycle and being a good 20lbs heavier in 3 months time

 

[Tom84]

that place was all about arse kissing, everyone on there sucks up to garry and steve, if you don't give them any sucky-sucky they won't like you, they feel that because they are 'older' they expect all of the younger guys to respect them, but i wasn't down with that, in fact i didn't have much respect for them at all because they knew jack all about BBing or AS (Tom remember the 17aa thread? ), also i knew there was a MC source list, but i got plenty of PM's for sources and i would recommend them to sources of my own, so i doubt they liked that! and 'thebigskev', a fat newbie being made a mod after 3 months of training??? HAHAHA! i'm real happy i'm no longer associated with that place!

That thread was ridiculous couldnt agree more with everything u said. Mods didnt know what a 17aa was it was quite depressing. I signed in through my mates user name the other day and gary has managed to argue with someone else and get them to stop posting. Place is so quiet ah well what a shame

One of the mods didnt know what pct was and also posted could he make gains with dbol and 100g a day protein.

Glad to hear u consider your personal issues over bro 'Fuck her' is the best attitude u wanna adopt right now. Glad to hear its goin well starting SD yday fucking mental forearm pumps in the gym today was ridiculous.

 

[Tha Don]

Day 9 - 25/05/05

yes! its started..

i can really feel the dbol starting to kick in now, this morning i've just checked the scales and i am another pound up! (i seem to be gaining roughly a pound a day right now!), its took a lil while, but after 9 days the dbol is really starting to make its presence

apart from the weight gain and obvious bloat/puffiness, i've also noticed quite a bit of lethargy (which i'm told will subside after a couple of weeks), i'm getting pretty bad sweats at times (overnight was quite bad but i'm leaving the window open and the covers off so i stay quite cool when i'm sleeping), i also woke up today with really oily skin, i touched my nose n' it felt like someone has rubbed oil over my face... it was greasy as hell! my mood is up already (just because i now know my shit ain't fake this time!)

today will be my 1st workout of the 2nd week (delts, bis, tris), and i'm very excited!

 

[Tha Don]

workout

todays' workout was good, best workout i've had in a long time! strength was up slightly, i felt pretty invincible (like i could lift all day), VERY noticable pumps - after the workout i went to the sinks to splash some water on my face and cool down, and really struggled to wash, my arms were so pumped i couldn't move them properly, highlight lifts:
military press: 6x65kg (up from 6x60kg)
barbell curl: 8x40kg
CG bench: 6x90kg (up from 6x80kg) i was grunting these out, it was funny that the 2 guys i was benchin with doing regular bench were my sort of size yet they very benching around 60kg, and i'm close gripping 90.. nice lil ego boost!

i've upped my cals a little bit more, i'd say over the first week i was around the maintenance mark, maybe very slightly above when i didn't skip/delay any meals, but now i'm trying to get a 7th meal in, and eating more potatos and solid protein sources (even more fish and chicken!) instead of relying so much on shakes

working again tonight, more money into my piggybank , its all good right now, my mood has gone from been totally depressed and anxious (over the first week of this cycle... due to the fakes, the ex gf stressing me, and the fact that i was so pissed off about losing so much strength and LBM on that 3 week cut) to being excited and very optimistic! so i'm happy with how things are going right now, i'll try and post some weight changes up over the next few days, so you guys can see just what is going on! i'm adding roughly a pound a day right now, no shit! its insane!

 

[Du]

todays' workout was good, best workout i've had in a long time! strength was up slightly, i felt pretty invincible (like i could lift all day), VERY noticable pumps - after the workout i went to the sinks to splash some water on my face and cool down, and really struggled to wash, my arms were so pumped i couldn't move them properly

my mood has gone from been totally depressed and anxious (over the first week of this cycle..........to being excited and very optimistic! so i'm happy with how things are going right now, i'll try and post some weight changes up over the next few days, so you guys can see just what is going on! i'm adding roughly a pound a day right now, no shit! its insane!

Youre makin me wanna start my cycle now boss. Good to hear its treatin ya well... keep it up.

 

[redspy]

Good deal Young D. Glad this cycle is really kicking off well for you.

 

[Tha Don]

thanks for the encouragement guys

 

[Tha Don]

Day 10 - 28/05/05

another day, another dollar..

today was legs, workout went well considering my legs were pretty tired from last night, key lifts:
squats: 8x90kg (up from 10x80kg)
calf raises: 35x35kg

weight was up again this morning, only about by half a pound today but that isn't bad considering i was working (instead of resting) last night, and slept in all morning

dbol bloat is getting pretty bad, i'm not sure if i could put up with it worsening, i looked pretty bad at work last night, i was aware that my face was pretty puffed up so it didn't help my confidence, which needs to be sky high for this sort of job, i might have to consider running some letro or nolva if the condition continues to worsen, i'm paid to talk to women, but i can't talk to any women right now looking as fat-faced as this

 

[Tom84]

Dont worry too much about the bloat bro its only noticeable to you. Good to hear your gains whats the total change in weight so far.

anywayz looks like its goingreat keep it up mate

 

[Du]

another day, another dollar..

today was legs, workout went well considering my legs were pretty tired from last night, key lifts:
squats: 8x90kg (up from 10x80kg)
calf raises: 35x35kg

weight was up again this morning, only about by half a pound today but that isn't bad considering i was working (instead of resting) last night, and slept in all morning

dbol bloat is getting pretty bad, i'm not sure if i could put up with it worsening, i looked pretty bad at work last night, i was aware that my face was pretty puffed up so it didn't help my confidence, which needs to be sky high for this sort of job, i might have to consider running some letro or nolva if the condition continues to worsen, i'm paid to talk to women, but i can't talk to any women right now looking as fat-faced as this

Hey boss,

Lifts lookin solid. The bloat is to be expected with a dbol cycle. Nolva wouldnt do you much good against bloat; its a SERM. Arimidex of Femara would help you very much against the bloat though, as they are AI's. Id suggest that, at least until you get the bloat down.

Cycle is lookin good though, keep it up.

 

[Tha Don]

Day 11 - 29/05/05

today was rest/injection day, the jab didn't go too great, shattered the top of the amp in my hand and got several pieces of glass stuck in my thumb and finger, wasn't nice took me a bit of time to get them out, lot of blood, had to plaster things up and as glass had fallen into the bottom of the amp i decided to chuck it out, thats 3 amps i've lost so far! i guess the more i open the better i will get, but it really stressed me out today, the actual jab didn't go to good, i was just tense and shakey instead of steady and relaxed, blood rushed out and dripped on my bathroom floor, then without even knowing it had dripped on the floor i put my foot in it and got it on my socks, then i tredded it all round my flat, not good! i don't think i like injections anymore

weighed myself today at 194.4lbs/88.2kg and 15% BF, last sunday morning i was 189.6lbs/86kg and 14.5% BF, so added almoast 5lbs last week, which is nice

its hard to accurately say how much weight i have added so far on this cycle, due to the fact i was on the s1+ when i started, but when i started the s1+ (a week before i started the AS) i was 183.6lbs/83.3kg, and now i'm 194.4lbs/88.2kg, so if you assume that i would have been around the 184lbs mark when i started the AS without the water from the s1+ you are looking at roughly 10lbs so far

so 10lbs in 11 days ain't bad, although most of that is going to be water, i'm more concerned with the weight changes from now on

 

[Tha Don]

Arimidex of Femara would help you very much against the bloat though, as they are AI's. Id suggest that, at least until you get the bloat down.

yes i'm thinking about running a low dose of femara, my pills are 2.5mg, so i was thinking about splitting them into 4, and running roughly 0.625mg EOD, or could i just say take half a tab the day before work to drop water? i think i remember pirate saying he took some femara after a gyno scare and didn't stop pissing all night, so if its fast acting maybe that would work?

 

[tryintogetbig]

you look fine int he picture, we are, are own worst critics, the bloat isn't bad. Sorry to hear about the broken amp.

Keep the calories up and lift hard

 

[Cardinal]

Sorry to make fun, but I can't see how you are breaking so many amps. Are these HCG amps? Then it would make sense. I have popped the top on quite a fair number of AAS oil bottles and never had the slightest problem. It seems like there would be a better way to score the HCG amps. Shouldn't be so physically dangerous opening them!

 

[Tha Don]

Sorry to make fun, but I can't see how you are breaking so many amps. Are these HCG amps? Then it would make sense. I have popped the top on quite a fair number of AAS oil bottles and never had the slightest problem. It seems like there would be a better way to score the HCG amps. Shouldn't be so physically dangerous opening them!

no they are test amps, i was trying to use scissors at first to cut off the tops, that was a poor method, cost me 2 amps, i've had much better luck so far with snapping them off but i think putting too much pressure on the top yesterday (gripping too hard with my thumb and finger) caused it to shatter, in future i'll be putting a cloth/towel over my hand just incase it shatters like that again, but i think i'm starting to get the knack of it, i hear biro lids work well, maybe i'll give that a shot next time if i'm still having problems

 

[Tha Don]

you look fine int he picture, we are, are own worst critics, the bloat isn't bad. Sorry to hear about the broken amp.

Keep the calories up and lift hard

thanks, i'm upping the cals slightly futher this week, back into bulking teritory now