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they ruled on heat of the moment syg law. now he will answer for the rest of it.
 
I would like to point out I'm not comfortable with the justice department going after Zimmerman. I think he should be in jail, but the truth of the matter of is that most of the blame can be laid at the foot of the prosecution who overcharged him and presented the wrong case. I don't think there is any evidence of him violating Martin's civil rights and never was, that was the narrative the media took and it doesn't jibe with the evidence. He will pay for what he did but I guess he should be happy he is free at least. Maybe Fox News will hire him.
 
i'd like to see a precedent set that civilians can't just follow people around with a loaded weapon because they have a wild imagination.
 

Sometimes justice is meted out in stages.
Trayvon Martin's parents have settled a wrongful death claim with the homeowners association of the Retreat at Twin Lakes, the Florida housing complex where their son was shot and killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

The undisclosed sum is believed to be more than $1 million

Read more: Trayvon Martin

it's already been clearly established that this was a wrongful death. zimmerman's problems are not over. if it was my kid he killed i wouldn't be done with him yet either.

 
As for stalking...Zimmerman followed him in his car and then got out on foot and followed him. How is that not repeated following?

There's no evidence of malicious intent. Zimmerman did not engage and disengage. The fact that he switched means of transportation seems irrelevant.

Let's look at another scenario...

You leave a bar and someone calls you a douche bag or whatever and follows you. You try to run away, or maybe you don't. The person antagonizes you and you hit him. Somehow you get on top and start beating him, does anyone think he has a right to shoot you? By every single loophole law pointed out in this case, the person on the bottom has the right to shoot you. This is the problem, under no circumstance similar to that should a person be able to shoot another person.

Your scenario contains a key difference from the Zimmerman case. There's no evidence Zimmerman provoked the use of force against himself. If that were the case the defense would have been required to show Zimmerman "exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant". Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

You're wrong, the same principle applies to your scenario as in "you shoot to neutralize the threat, not kill them". So even if someone antagonizes you, you do not have the right to beat them to a pulp. Once the threat is neutralized you disengage. The right to self defense is just that, to prevent your death or great bodily harm. So yes in a similar circumstance where you continue to beat someone after they are no longer a threat they may very well have the right to shoot you. It's the same reason if you shot at someone who broke into your house then ran away, you can't chase them down the street then execute them.
 
I would like to point out I'm not comfortable with the justice department going after Zimmerman. I think he should be in jail, but the truth of the matter of is that most of the blame can be laid at the foot of the prosecution who overcharged him and presented the wrong case. I don't think there is any evidence of him violating Martin's civil rights and never was, that was the narrative the media took and it doesn't jibe with the evidence. He will pay for what he did but I guess he should be happy he is free at least. Maybe Fox News will hire him.

if they can find the man that said zimmerman tried to detain trayvon and get him to talk.... whole new ball game.
 
hate to say it but he seems like he's trying to be honest. and he looks like he took a good beating

look like yes but this sharply contrasts with other statements he'd made.
 
It's not us who say SYG wasn't involved it's the law. The defense did not bring up SYG once in the trial, and it wasn't necessary because SYG did not have to be invoked in this instance for it to be self defense. If that bothers you i guess you should take it up with the law makers in Florida
 
This case never should have gone to trial, and this case never should have been so public. He shouldn't have to deal with people like LW 12 states away trying to convict him in the court of public opinion because she has access to Some of the information. It's funny to blame the prosecutors to me on this. They were dealt a losing hand and lost.
 
i think this comment is more non compos mentis because you completely are missing the gulf between what i think might of hasppened and my believing the verdict is right. the prosecution did a shitty job and it makes me feel a bit ill that they expected people to convict him without hard facts. guess they wanted a lynch mob not a jury.

i'm not one of the people upset with the verdict or jurors. you're ready to hang me for presenting an argument of what could have happened that night and completely ignoring the fact i'm content with the verdict. you clearly have no objective ability to identify people who know the difference between maybes and facts. i'm the one that isn't stooping to personal insults because i don't know or even think i know all the facts here and i have no need to insult people i consider friends over this case. so who is emotional or too invested?

i think i'd have made a much more objective juror that people who are positive what happened either way cuz no one has really proven jack shit. they did not prove murder or manslaughter but that doesn't mean he didn't get away with murder. there is no way you can be absolutely sure of that given the evidence. like me, you have an opinion.
Are you really this far gone? What i've been saying from the beginning is there is no evidence presented that leads me to believe he went out to kill this kid. He could have done things differently and trayvon would still be alive, but ive seen no evidence that what he did constitutes a crime. Show me where he attacked Trayvon? I'm waiting? I don't have a problem with a concerned citizen following someone in his neighborhood who he doesn't know, and I would hope my neighbors do the same in my neighborhood.
 
Are you really this far gone? What i've been saying from the beginning is there is no evidence presented that leads me to believe he went out to kill this kid. He could have done things differently and trayvon would still be alive, but ive seen no evidence that what he did constitutes a crime. Show me where he attacked Trayvon? I'm waiting? I don't have a problem with a concerned citizen following someone in his neighborhood who he doesn't know, and I would hope my neighbors do the same in my neighborhood.

that's fine for you but if i catch some civilian pursuing my kid at night they are gonna have a problem with mama bear.
 
This case never should have gone to trial, and this case never should have been so public. He shouldn't have to deal with people like LW 12 states away trying to convict him in the court of public opinion because she has access to Some of the information. It's funny to blame the prosecutors to me on this. They were dealt a losing hand and lost.

it is a wrongful death case and the homeowners association has already paid out over a million dollars. you'd be singing a different tune if it was your child.
 
cops here are not retarded. i'd be fine.
 
it is a wrongful death case and the homeowners association has already paid out over a million dollars. you'd be singing a different tune if it was your child.

You mean the lawyers of the insurance company for the HOA negotiated a settlement to make this all go away as quickly as possible? Say it isn't so!
 
that's fine for you but if i catch some civilian pursuing my kid at night they are gonna have a problem with mama bear.
I hope you teach your kid not to attack people and momma bear should be fine. as well as baby bear will stay alive
 
You mean the lawyers of the insurance company for the HOA negotiated a settlement to make this all go away as quickly as possible? Say it isn't so!


because lawyers love to give people a MILLION dollars when they don't have a good case. :rolleyes:
 
this tip was under what to do if you're being stalked

If someone is following you, never go home.
 
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this tip was under what to do if you're being stalked

If someone is following you, never go home.

Another tip: The fire rate of a bag of Skittles is significantly lower than Kel-Tec PF-9.
 
because lawyers love to give people a MILLION dollars when they don't have a good case. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure the actuary tables on this one said a million dollars was cheap compared to the negativity of letting this stay in the public eye for longer while fighting it. Use your head LW. geez
 
the number one tip on the stranger danger link

If you think you are being followed:
Make a sudden turn, cross the street, accelerate, or go into a nearby business. If being followed by a car, reverse your direction - it will take them a much longer time to turn around and they will likely just continue on to find a different target. If you are unable to shake the follower, turn around and scream, "What do you want?" in your most indignant voice.

or maybe, "do you got a problem?"

smfh at people thinking zimmerman is some kind of neighborhood hero. after the cops chastised him for not identifying himself he said trayvon just jumped out of the bushes and punched him, states he fell backward and trayvon climbed on top of him like he didn't have time to explain himself. then during reenactment tells it completely different. trayvon was walking toward him asking what the fuck he wanted. just as he should have done according to safety tips. at that point the whole story changes if the stranger following him does the right thing. identifies himself just like the cops told him he had two opportunities to do.


there are not a thousand or more safety tip pages telling people what to do if you are being followed because that's a non worrisome thing.
 
I'm pretty sure the actuary tables on this one said a million dollars was cheap compared to the negativity of letting this stay in the public eye for longer while fighting it. Use your head LW. geez

any type of payment signals guilt. use yours. i'm sure they are much better off having the world think they paid out cuz they are responsible for this boys wrongful death. lawyers don't just pay a million dollars to make boogy men they aren't afraid of go away or everyone would file bogus suits.
 
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any type of payment signals guilt. I don't believe that at alluse yours. i'm sure they are much better off having the world think they paid out cuz they are responsible for this boys wrongful death. lawyers don't just pay a million dollars to make boogy men they aren't afraid of go away or everyone would file bogus suits. Bogus suits are filed all the time, some even win.

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another juror speaks

Then she adds:
"As much as we were trying to find this man guilty?they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told."​
The woman says she is having problems sleeping and eating.
"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."
 
the number one tip on the stranger danger link

If you think you are being followed:
Make a sudden turn, cross the street, accelerate, or go into a nearby business. If being followed by a car, reverse your direction - it will take them a much longer time to turn around and they will likely just continue on to find a different target. If you are unable to shake the follower, turn around and scream, "What do you want?" in your most indignant voice.

or maybe, "do you got a problem?"

smfh at people thinking zimmerman is some kind of neighborhood hero. after the cops chastised him for not identifying himself he said trayvon just jumped out of the bushes and punched him, states he fell backward and trayvon climbed on top of him like he didn't have time to explain himself. then during reenactment tells it completely different. trayvon was walking toward him asking what the fuck he wanted. just as he should have done according to safety tips. at that point the whole story changes if the stranger following him does the right thing. identifies himself just like the cops told him he had two opportunities to do.


there are not a thousand or more safety tip pages telling people what to do if you are being followed because that's a non worrisome thing.
I don't think that douchebag ZG is a hero, hes a stupid shit that put himself in this situation, but as well TM is a stupid shit that didn't have enough brains to ignore him or call 911 they both could have prevented this but I would expect more from an adult
 
I don't think that douchebag ZG is a hero, hes a stupid shit that put himself in this situation, but as well TM is a stupid shit that didn't have enough brains to ignore him or call 911 they both could have prevented this but I would expect more from an adult

tm didn't have a phone on him to dial 911 with. he had candy and a can of juice. i advise parents when punishing a child to never take their phones away because it's a safety issue. not all kids have cellphones and a lot don't take them when they feel perfectly safe walking to the corner store etc. zimmerman probably changed that for a lot of people.
 
tm didn't have a phone on him to dial 911 with. he had candy and a can of juice. i advise parents when punishing a child to never take their phones away because it's a safety issue. not all kids have cellphones and a lot don't take them when they feel perfectly safe walking to the corner store etc. zimmerman probably changed that for a lot of people.
He did he was on the phone with his girlfriend and said some creepy cracker is following me
 
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