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Meh, what a shit pick.
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Sarah Palin?!?!
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Not at all. She's a fantastic pick. I really hope it's her. Everyone's talking about it (and not about Obama's speech), she'll motivate the base, pro-life, conservative, governor, attractive... what's not to like?
Granted I don't know much about her yet, but so far so good. I can already tell you.. the idea of what her has a lot of conservatives excited.. myself included.
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Its such an obvious ploy to get pissed off Hillary supporters to turn. Its politics I know but when its this painfully obvious I think its detrimental to his campaign.
She's been talked about for a long time, just unexpected. Rush Limbaugh mentioned her for McCain's pick back in February, Bill Kristol's been recommending her for a long time.
Campaigns are always about upstaging the opponent. Would you say Obama's pick of Biden is not painfully obvious that he's going for his experience in foreign affairs? Not at all.. he's looking to strengthen his ticket to win.
She satisfies conservatives, and she may attract woman voters to elect him President. How you can say this is a shit pick I just don't understand. It's really a brilliant pick.
vice president doesnt mean shit. unless the president dies (and no one votes based on that possibility). No one votes for obama because of his vp pick and no one will vote for McCain because of his.
It was the only pick. McCain is running against a charismatic black man. What's better to off~set this than a white female?
This will be interesting.
I really think this year will prove to be different.
Because if Mccain goes two terms,
im not sure if hes gonna be around for 8 more years.
Mccain has been bashing Obama about his inexperience and he chooses Palin to be his running mate. This is more of a strategic decision than anything else. Mccain is just like Bush, I can run this country by myself. He just made his ticket weaker.
all right lets do a little unscientific poll. If anyone here was leaning towards Obama and is now pro McCain please chime in. Conversely if you were leaning towards McCain, but will now look at obama more closely let us know.
VP doesnt mean shit. all the conservatives that made a stink over the possibility of a pro-choice republican VP. what were they going to do? vote obama to show McCain? oh, they would not vote thereby also ensuring an obama win. Way too big a deal is made about the VP pick. The only thing a VP is good for is attacking the other side on whatever strengths the VP is perceived to have and the other guy lacks.
She alone has more executive experience that Biden & Obama combined. They are legislators... big difference.. which is why a senator hasn't been president since Kennedy.
You're completing discarding what happened with Hillary. She was dissed. 53% of voters in 2004 were women. It's the first woman on a Republican ticket. Generating a lot of buzz, potentially drowning out what happened this week.It's different.
i don't agree with this at all. Bush has relied heavily on his VP. he also relied heavy on his cabinet. the two secretary's of state (both were black, one female) as well as his attorney general (another minority).
McCain is running on experience. His. he doesn't need his VP pick to have the 20 years of experience he has. besides he chose a VP with executive experience. how much of that does obama have? the truth is I don't think the VP pick means anything. Shit he should have put Gene Upshaw in there if the guy was still alive.
How much executive experience can you gain in a two year period?
Running a state?Much more than legislating for one year.
Check your numbers there incorrect. I'm just saying he needs a stronger ticket.
It's different.
I'm asking people to show me otherwise and you think I'm disregarding what happened to hillary? Your damn right I am. And you have not shown anything to prove differently.
CNN poll question:
Will Sen. McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate snag Sen. Clinton's supporters? an overwhelming majority have voted NO.
Yes 42% 17763
No 58% 24858
Total Votes: 42621
Women are not going to jump to McCains ticket over this. This isn't like with the black vote who regardless of obamas politics will vote for obama simply because he is black (see charles barkley for example)
How much federal experience can you gain?
You're asking me to poll IM, and you're referencing a CNN poll. Both lean significanly left. That same poll on Fox News would be 80 Yes, 20 no.
How can I possibly prove it? It's an opinion. I just disagree that women won't vote for McCain because of the woman on his ticket.
He's been campaigning for half the time he's been in the senate.
One term is not enough, not to even take the number 2 spot. Granted she is ethically sound, but not proven. Give the state the chance to re-elect.
Im asking for any type of contradictory evidence. Like I said I recognize it is unscientific. I'm ok with that. I have yet to hear anyone. man or woman tell me this changes their vote, or their thinking. please show me otherwise. Im not looking for something that is scientific or appropriately unbiased (as IM or cnn apparently are
) we have a good mix of both left and right leaning individuals here. CNN is the same..
OH MY GOD. are you really not getting what I was saying? Federal experience? my reference was to OBAMA. the guy has only been in a federal office for 2 years none of which was executive. Palin has had 2 years of state executive experience. no one can point out palin's lack of experience without highlighting obamas.
I understand, but my point is Obama's choice for his VP pick was because he knows he lacks experience, that made his ticket stronger. Mccain choice does nothing for him, its just for votes.
Im asking for any type of contradictory evidence. Like I said I recognize it is unscientific. I'm ok with that. I have yet to hear anyone. man or woman tell me this changes their vote, or their thinking. please show me otherwise. Im not looking for something that is scientific or appropriately unbiased (as IM or cnn apparently are
I'm just saying conventional wisdom is out the door. The only other woman on a ticket was in 1984, where Regan blew out Mondale... nothing could have helped Mondale. I just think we're in uncharted waters. It will be interesting to see how the women vote comes out in November.
McCain is still the top of the ticket. The whole vetting process is to determine who would help get him elected.
I know another Bush.
McCain is still the top of the ticket. The whole vetting process is to determine who would help get him elected.
in this we are like minded.
