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Ancient 'pact' caused earthquake, says televangelist Pat Robertson

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Wow...utter madness, but I suppose that is to be expected whenever Robertson or Rush opens their mouths. Helluva rebuttal by Olbermann, crushed them both and was dead on.

It's not so much people like Pat Robertson who scare the shit out of me, but rather the people who follow him, believe in him and support this type of madness. If you're eating a shit sandwich, taking bite after bite, what type of person continues to say "not bad...give me more" rather than "wow, why have I been literally eating shit? no mas"??? WTF?????
 
Read my reply to Dale.

I quoted your reply to Dale. You are saying that Obama is worse than People like Pat and Rush because he has the power to cause harm to people with bad decisions, and they don't.

That is like saying a bridge engineer is a bigger POS than a murderer, because they have the power to kill hundreds of people for being lazy and not checking their calculations, but a murderer only killed one person.

What has Obama done that you think he means ill intent by doing?
I'd say the kickbacks to the banks was pretty bullshit, but other than that I can't think of an anything.
 
I quoted your reply to Dale. You are saying that Obama is worse than People like Pat and Rush because he has the power to cause harm to people with bad decisions, and they don't.

That is like saying a bridge engineer is a bigger POS than a murderer, because they have the power to kill hundreds of people for being lazy and not checking their calculations, but a murderer only killed one person.

What has Obama done that you think he means ill intent by doing?
I'd say the kickbacks to the banks was pretty bullshit, but other than that I can't think of an anything.

i think it's funny that you come up with a negative example of obama. i like how you are able to see positive and negative and not just one or the other.

lets face it though. Pat and Rush are nothing but mouths. they don't have power to do shit other than run their mouths. Obama has been placed into a position to actually help or hinder whats going on in the US. I've yet to see him help and he is a year in. soon all real governing will stop and he will start asking us to elect him again.
 
Robertson Spokesman's Statement on 'Devil' Remarks - Daniel Foster - The Corner on National Review Online

Robertson Spokesman's Statement on 'Devil' Remarks [Daniel Foster]

From CBN:
??? VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 ??? On today???s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti???s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God???s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson???s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.
Chris Roslan
Spokesman for CBN
 
Well, hopefully the people of Haiti have learned something from this and will change their ways and ask God to forgive them. Otherwise, it won't matter how much aid they're sent.
 
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Obama. The first two can mouth off all they want and change nothing, while he can, and is, screwing it bad.

fallacy of extended analogy, it makes no sense.
 
fallacy of extended analogy, it makes no sense.

Yeah, I used your post in a way that you didn't intend. You mentioned three names and asked who was the biggest POS, of which Obama is the biggest POS.

The first two just talk shit and don't do any real damage. Obama, however, is doing real damage. Which is an idea that you probably don't like. I bet you're an Obama disciple. :funny:
 
I quoted your reply to Dale. You are saying that Obama is worse than People like Pat and Rush because he has the power to cause harm to people with bad decisions, and they don't.

That is like saying a bridge engineer is a bigger POS than a murderer, because they have the power to kill hundreds of people for being lazy and not checking their calculations, but a murderer only killed one person.

That's a bad analogy. Rush and Pat are just mouths and don't do anything of real consequence. If you have two murderers, they're both murderers. If you have one person that punched someone and one that murdered someone, they're not both murderers and aren't comparable. :shrug:

What has Obama done that you think he means ill intent by doing?
I'd say the kickbacks to the banks was pretty bullshit, but other than that I can't think of an anything.

There are lots of things that Obama is doing, and will continue to do, that are bad for this country. Which is something for another thread.
 
Yeah, I used your post in a way that you didn't intend. You mentioned three names and asked who was the biggest POS, of which Obama is the biggest POS.

The first two just talk shit and don't do any real damage. Obama, however, is doing real damage. Which is an idea that you probably don't like. I bet you're an Obama disciple. :funny:

You keep adding inconsistancies, non sequitur and ad hominem attack ( usually a sign or weakness) wow. There is still no connection between a majority elected president and the two mouthpieces who entertain me on a regular basis. Both mouthpieces ( one for religion and one for the political right) made erroneous conclusions about the Haitian earthquake. Why don't you just start a thread bashing Obama.
And no, I am not a Obama disciple.
 
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You keep adding inconsistancies, non sequitur and ad hominem attack ( usually a sign or weakness) wow. There is still no connection between a majority elected president and the two mouthpieces who entertain me on a regular basis. Both mouthpieces ( one for religion and one for the political right) made erroneous conclusions about the Haitian earthquake. Why don't you just start a thread bashing Obama.

Inconsistencies? I was pointing out that they have little to no affect on the world at large. Whereas Obama is a real source of real problems.

Yeah, both Rush and Pat are douche bags. But really, what talking head isn't? They're all a bunch of self-serving aggrandizing retards.

Anyone that listens to any talking head and considers them a source of real, viable, information is a moron.


I am not a Obama disciple.
I guess you're not.
 
Inconsistencies? I was pointing out that they have little to no affect on the world at large. Whereas Obama is a real source of real problems.

Yeah, both Rush and Pat are douche bags. But really, what talking head isn't? They're all a bunch of self-serving aggrandizing retards.

Anyone that listens to any talking head and considers them a source of real, viable, information is a moron.

how many times are you going to have to repeat yourself? if people can't understand what you meant by now I'm convinced that english is not their first language
 
That is like saying a bridge engineer is a bigger POS than a murderer, because they have the power to kill hundreds of people for being lazy and not checking their calculations, but a murderer only killed one person.

very funny, I'm glad I don't use that line of reasoning with my scientific research or clinical research.
 
WTF were we discussing again? :)
 
i guess who is the bigger douche bag with their comments about haiti, pat or limbaugh. i vote limbaugh. By the way its not because i universally hate right wing radio figures, my absolute favorite is the conservative talk show personaliity here in atlanta, herman cain. i enjoy listining to him
 
how many times are you going to have to repeat yourself? if people can't understand what you meant by now I'm convinced that english is not their first language

I got what DOMS said the first time. That is why I had to bust his balls on it.
 
Anywho. Pat is among the worst lowdown scumbags I can imagine. He tricks poor uneducated people into sending him money to save their souls from damnation.

The fucker is worth nearly 200 million dollars. At what point does someone fucking shoot him so retards stop sending him their money. These same retards vote, too. It is no wonder shit is so fucked up in this country.
 
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i guess who is the bigger douche bag with their comments about haiti, pat or limbaugh. i vote limbaugh. By the way its not because i universally hate right wing radio figures, my absolute favorite is the conservative talk show personaliity here in atlanta, herman cain. i enjoy listining to him

Do we have to have a "bigger douche bag"? Can't they both be equally douchey for using tragedy to forward their agendas?
 
Anywho. Pat is among the worst lowdown scumbags I can imagine. He tricks poor uneducated people into sending him money to save their souls from damnation.

The fucker is worth nearly 200 million dollars. At what point does someone fucking shoot him so retards stop sending him their money. These same retards vote, too. It is no wonder shit is so fucked up in this country.

Yet again, another reason why I dig Mormons. Unless the person performs a legitimate service, such as a public accountant, they don't get paid anything. Better than 90% of the money that their members give goes to helping someone and not paying someone.
 
I got what DOMS said the first time. That is why I had to bust his balls on it.

i was actually focusing more on bandaid woman's comments this time
 
Yet again, another reason why I dig Mormons. Unless the person performs a legitimate service, such as a public accountant, they don't get paid anything. Better than 90% of the money that their members give goes to helping someone and not paying someone.

I didn't know that. That is a commendable policy.
 
Yet again, another reason why I dig Mormons. Unless the person performs a legitimate service, such as a public accountant, they don't get paid anything. Better than 90% of the money that their members give goes to helping someone and not paying someone.


quakers as well
 
Do we have to have a "bigger douche bag"? Can't they both be equally douchey for using tragedy to forward their agendas?


good point, i guess it's just that I feel religion clouds the senses and renders someone like pat into truly believing his nonsense and Rush should be capable of more rational thinking, like herman cain.
 
good point, i guess it's just that I feel religion clouds the senses and renders someone like pat into truly believing his nonsense and Rush should be capable of more rational thinking, like herman cain.

Political groups and environmentalism are the new religions.

Not so sure? Tell a Christian that Jesus doesn't exist and then tell a pro-global warmer that man-made global warming doesn't exist and then tell a political disciple that their candidate isn't good enough. You'll get the exact same reaction.
 
actually in terms of man made global warming neither the pro or antiglobal warmers have it right, as a scientist I can tell you there just is not enough data ....yet....,global warming like any complex biological process, findings and conclusions can seem contradictory depending on what variables and conditions you control ( that is why so much research in medicine seems contradictory at times when they really aren't if you look at the actual study methodology.) I have already put on this site my feelings about pollution control ( medical epidemiology is much more of an exact science than global warming and reasons for decreasing fine particle pollution like coal and engine pollution). if i did not i enclosed it from another biking site i frequent.


I find the most disturbing thing about americans is that most americans don't have the basic scientic know-how to critic data spoon fed by the web sites and media.

The new religion is this country wether it is for political or religious reasons is the anti science mentality that is so pervasive.

I would like not to argue the merits of emission controls based on global warming. Instead, there is a substantial and neglected argument for emission control.

I am more familiar with the science of epidemiology than that of climatology I propose medical epidemiology data as a more concrete method of advancing the cause of policies aimed at reducing emissions.

Let’s start with the fact that we can easily track the number of hospital admissions and emergency room visits for asthma exacerbations, respiratory illnesses,and cardiac deaths and show a direct correlation with the level of air pollution for that day or week.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4419

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/airpollution/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16522832

In fact, asthma has increased in prevalence by a whopping forty percent.... the one disease that has increased not only increased in prevalence but also mortality so it is serious subject among medical professionals. Numerous studies show that air pollutants exacerbate asthma but there are also many studies showing it’s link in causing asthma. Who suffers? Children who have to breath in fifty percent more air than adults per body mass. These studies show counties with higher ozone levels have three times more newly diagnosed asthmatics and more school absences due to respiratory problems.

The EPA has been good about reducing overall air pollutants, skeptics may ask why the increased rate in asthma? Once again, the answer depends on the question asked. The EPA bases its measurements on relatively large particle size airborne pollutants that are measured and thus define air quality index. Experts state that these air quality measurements do not measure the real and much more dangerous smaller particle pollutants which are comprising more of our emissions.

Thus, some may not care about emission's contributions to global warming or our depleting finite fuel supply. However, fossil fuel's effect on medical expenditure usage and the increasing the prevalence of the one disease that has also increased in mortality (compared to many other diseases) and the physical damage to the most vulnerable segment of our society... children, makes emission control a public health problem. (I have only discussed asthma and did not even go into detail about the exacerbations and increased death or hospitalizations of those with other lung diseases and cardiac events affected by air pollution.)

Thus, policies that decrease emissions is not just an environmental issue, it is a medical issue for many doctors and a public health crisis around the globe.

Atlanta has some of the worst air pollution America and this is not a physical variable that is” due to the usual patterns of global climate changeover time". It is the worst place to live with asthma according the American Asthma and Allergy Foundation. Hmm, maybe a connection?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-11-12-pollution-health_x.htm

the above from a bikeforums site where i am cbhungry
 
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actually in terms of man made global warming neither the pro or antiglobal warmers have it right, as a scientist I can tell you there just is not enough data ....yet....,

Damn it! I've been saying this for years! So few people are willing to admit to this.

Man-made global warming (MGW) is still up in the air, but it's 100% certain that global warming, of the natural sort, is real. It started at the end of the last ice age. I believe that this is the biggest problem with the pro-MGW is that they see the real affects of global warming and arbitrarily attribute it to man. Mostly because someone told them to.

I find the most disturbing thing about americans is that most americans don't have the basic scientic know-how to critic data spoon fed by the web sites and media.

The new religion is this country wether it is for political or religious reasons is the anti science mentality that is so pervasive.

It's not just in America. If you look at the rest of the world, it's everywhere. One of the most prominent reasons is the media. They've quite reporting on what's happening and are now reporting on what may happen. They eschew facts for speculation because it sells.
 
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