Kleen
Board Rep
No this is not about the De-Militiarized Zone, but about a new bad ass Dymethazine clone Super-DMZ by Iron Mag Labs. First I want to thank Prince for being so generous and allowing such a newcomer to the forums to run a log with this product.
Nutrition
I am sticking to what I know works for me, and will do my original plan of eating a larger amount of protein intake and about 50 grams carbs post workout, carb refeeds Wednesday and Saturday Night/Sunday morning. If I feel I need more I will add in 1/2 cup oats. to meal 2 and 3. I will increase my half a grapefruit servings to a whole grapefruit, making that 2 grapefruits a day and 1-2 cups of blueberries. I will work up the full blown diet tomorrow but I am only looking at about 2500-2700 calories to start and see where I go from there. Since I have been getting in about 2000 calories lately that will be an adequate jump I can adjust up easily from there to 2800-3000. I would much rather gain 10-12 sexy ass pounds of lbm then 15-20 lbs with some bloating. That is just me. I am also going to move my protein up to 300+ grams of protein a day not counting BCAA's which will end up being in the 30-50 gram range on workout days. I have read about the glycogen retention from Dymethazine and people feeling lethargic due to this however my body is used to running off of fat so I will keep carbs where they need to be for me to make me feel good and get great lifts. If I can do that by only adding in 100 grams over my usual 100-150 I am good to go. If not then I will increase them. If this thing causes me issue with glycogen then really I am just going to have to respond to how the product treats me. Glycogen is great and all but it isn't muscle it just adds volume to the muscle. I can load up on carbs and gain 10 lbs in 48 hours. I won't have that by the end of the week so I don't count that as gaining muscle, just basically like filling up a water balloon.
Training
When it comes to training, I can't go balls to the wall heavy anyway do to some injuries I am working through and or around, so I am deciding exactly how I am going to arrange the program. I tend to lift relatively instinctively after 20+ years I feel it is a good method when you know your body. However the wife is working out with me tomorrow and Tuesday and her surgery is Wednesday. That is when the change will in training happen to increase the volume, perhaps something similar to GVT, or I may keep my current split but adopt a much slower tempo to work time under tension. I respond very well to the slow reps method and it will keep my weights down so I don't injure my self too bad. I would really expect to see me move around a lot regarding training.
The Beginning
I took my first dose yesterday morning and went to the gym. I don't know if it was placebo or that I had about 25 grams of carb pre-workout but I was extremely pumped during and after this workout. Nothing else of notice and not sure if it had anything to do with the compound.
I have all my support supps ready to go. People really seem to be worried about blood pressure on this so on top of my Cycle Assist I have a BP specific product I am taking as well since I feel I should run this product as intended to see what the true effects are. I will be watching sides like a hawk, and taking blood pressure regularly. If I notice a spike even while taking the other products then I will simply cut back to 10mg a day and that does not resolve it we will have learned something about the product either way.
Today is Day 2 and I took on in the morning and one a short while ago. I am trying to take the Super-DMZ about 1 ½ hours before I take my Cycle assist so that the stuff has been broken down by the liver already before the liver support stuff goes in and does it's thing. I have read that taking them two close together can cause issues with the PH's being broken down correctly by the liver.
My beginning Stats as of 8-21-10
BW 190 – Have been carb depleting for over a week and lost 5 lbs of water and glycogen....
Thigh 24.5
Waist just above navel – 33
Arms 15 relaxed, 16 5/8 flexed
Chest 45 7/8
Here is a picture of me from same day for a reference point.
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Nutrition
I am sticking to what I know works for me, and will do my original plan of eating a larger amount of protein intake and about 50 grams carbs post workout, carb refeeds Wednesday and Saturday Night/Sunday morning. If I feel I need more I will add in 1/2 cup oats. to meal 2 and 3. I will increase my half a grapefruit servings to a whole grapefruit, making that 2 grapefruits a day and 1-2 cups of blueberries. I will work up the full blown diet tomorrow but I am only looking at about 2500-2700 calories to start and see where I go from there. Since I have been getting in about 2000 calories lately that will be an adequate jump I can adjust up easily from there to 2800-3000. I would much rather gain 10-12 sexy ass pounds of lbm then 15-20 lbs with some bloating. That is just me. I am also going to move my protein up to 300+ grams of protein a day not counting BCAA's which will end up being in the 30-50 gram range on workout days. I have read about the glycogen retention from Dymethazine and people feeling lethargic due to this however my body is used to running off of fat so I will keep carbs where they need to be for me to make me feel good and get great lifts. If I can do that by only adding in 100 grams over my usual 100-150 I am good to go. If not then I will increase them. If this thing causes me issue with glycogen then really I am just going to have to respond to how the product treats me. Glycogen is great and all but it isn't muscle it just adds volume to the muscle. I can load up on carbs and gain 10 lbs in 48 hours. I won't have that by the end of the week so I don't count that as gaining muscle, just basically like filling up a water balloon.
Training
When it comes to training, I can't go balls to the wall heavy anyway do to some injuries I am working through and or around, so I am deciding exactly how I am going to arrange the program. I tend to lift relatively instinctively after 20+ years I feel it is a good method when you know your body. However the wife is working out with me tomorrow and Tuesday and her surgery is Wednesday. That is when the change will in training happen to increase the volume, perhaps something similar to GVT, or I may keep my current split but adopt a much slower tempo to work time under tension. I respond very well to the slow reps method and it will keep my weights down so I don't injure my self too bad. I would really expect to see me move around a lot regarding training.
The Beginning
I took my first dose yesterday morning and went to the gym. I don't know if it was placebo or that I had about 25 grams of carb pre-workout but I was extremely pumped during and after this workout. Nothing else of notice and not sure if it had anything to do with the compound.
I have all my support supps ready to go. People really seem to be worried about blood pressure on this so on top of my Cycle Assist I have a BP specific product I am taking as well since I feel I should run this product as intended to see what the true effects are. I will be watching sides like a hawk, and taking blood pressure regularly. If I notice a spike even while taking the other products then I will simply cut back to 10mg a day and that does not resolve it we will have learned something about the product either way.
Today is Day 2 and I took on in the morning and one a short while ago. I am trying to take the Super-DMZ about 1 ½ hours before I take my Cycle assist so that the stuff has been broken down by the liver already before the liver support stuff goes in and does it's thing. I have read that taking them two close together can cause issues with the PH's being broken down correctly by the liver.
My beginning Stats as of 8-21-10
BW 190 – Have been carb depleting for over a week and lost 5 lbs of water and glycogen....
Thigh 24.5
Waist just above navel – 33
Arms 15 relaxed, 16 5/8 flexed
Chest 45 7/8
Here is a picture of me from same day for a reference point.
View attachment 27945
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