SloppyJ's 1st Cycle.

[SloppyJ]

Well fellow IM readers the day has finally come. I started my cycle. Here's a quick rundown:

Weeks 1-10 GP Test E 500mg
Weeks 1-4 GP Dbol @ 40mg
Weeks 2-15 Arimidex .5mg EOD
(Undecided) Week 9-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
Weeks 12-15 Clomid 100/75/50/50

Starting stats: 6'1" 207 BF:11-12.5


I have extra arimidex, letro, and nolva just incase something goes wrong. I've done my research for over a year and finally pulled the trigger. All of my AI's and PCT are liquid. I am going to be eating at 500 cals over maintenence and start from there. Shooting for atleast 350g protein per day.

I'm taking a multi vitamin, Hawthorne Berry, ALA, Coral Calcium, Omega 3,6,9, Liver care, and Melatonin at night. I'm rocking a mixture of Syntha-6 protein powder and NOW Unflavored isolate. I'm also taking White Flood pre-workout. I will begin creatine durring PCT.

I was like a kid in a candy store yesterday. Got it right before I went to work out so I had to drop a few dbol's. My first pin will be on Saturday morning and then I will do it again on Tuesday night. Gunna do glutes first with 1.5" 25g. Still a little nervous.


I'm sure it was just a placebo effect but I took 20mg of dbol yesterday before I hit the gym and did legs. I didn't take my pre-workout and I lifted really heavy. The pumps in my legs were different though. I seemed to get a little more pump. Even pumped up a little in some spots I normally don't feel.

Please feel free to give me advice. I also want opinions on the winstrol at the end of the cycle. I've always wanted to try it and I feel like I want to run something for the two weeks I wait for the test to clear out before PCT.

Shoutout to Rippedgolfer. I've been following his cycle since it's almost like mine. Very good info in there.

 

[The Prototype]

Lol thx bro. Looking forward to seeing your progress. You've definitely done your homework. I did winstrol about five years ago by itself and it got me shredded. It'll probably be ten times better with test. Keep us updated and good luck.

 

[BigBird]

Yup, especially due to the fact your BF is already at a good starting point (11-12.5%) the Winstrol should definately enhance your lean appearance. I was fairly ripped when I began a winny-only cycle and I went from fairly ripped to shredded in about 5 weeks at 50mg ED (split into two doses).

Maybe the 25ga. pin is too small and might be a struggle to push the oil through? I use an 1-1/2" 22 ga for glutes with no discomfort. I take about 30 secs to plunge the product but it could take you 60-90 secs to plunge through a 25 ga IMO.

 

[SloppyJ]

Yup, especially due to the fact your BF is already at a good starting point (11-12.5%) the Winstrol should definately enhance your lean appearance. I was fairly ripped when I began a winny-only cycle and I went from fairly ripped to shredded in about 5 weeks at 50mg ED (split into two doses).

Maybe the 25ga. pin is too small and might be a struggle to push the oil through? I use an 1-1/2" 22 ga for glutes with no discomfort. I take about 30 secs to plunge the product but it could take you 60-90 secs to plunge through a 25 ga IMO.

I think i'd rather have it that way. Slow and steady wins the race. Besides I think I'm going to have my friend do the first one so I don't mess it up. I want to see how it feels to do it that way before I try it myself. I'm sure when I do it myself I'll move it around a little more.

I want to try the winny so I know what it does. If it works like I think it will I want to incorporate it in a spring/early summer cycle for a little longer than 4 weeks. Maybe 6.

 

[BigBird]

Spring/Summer is the Winny season for shredding up. You won't be disappointed. Be sure you're stacking it with something though b/c it shut down my libido completely.

 

[SloppyJ]

Spring/Summer is the Winny season for shredding up. You won't be disappointed. Be sure you're stacking it with something though b/c it shut down my libido completely.

Oh yeah don't worry. I'm thinking about doing the same cycle again but with winny a little longer and maybe another compound. But that's the next one. I'm focused on this one now.

 

[The Prototype]

When I was on the winny I went out on a boat with a bunch of people. I took my shirt off and this guy looked at me with wide eyes and asked how many days a week I workout. It got me incredibly lean but surprisingly, my face got bloated. But I think that was due to me drinking beer everyday back then. It's def good stuff. I'd like to do it again but my hair has been falling out quite a bit on this test so I'm sure the winny will make it ten times worse.

 

[BigBird]

Oh yeah don't worry. I'm thinking about doing the same cycle again but with winny a little longer and maybe another compound. But that's the next one. I'm focused on this one now.

Funny but I'm the same way. I'm always thinking of the next cycle even while I'm having a good time on my current cycle. Decisions decisions. I only did a 4week winny cycle but believe me I wish I had at least 2 more weeks b/c I was peaking during week 4.

 

[nickalouch]

Sloppy J could you pm me with your sorce Im tired of the junk out there. Sounds like rippedgolfer found something good.

 

[nickalouch]

When I was on the winny I went out on a boat with a bunch of people. I took my shirt off and this guy looked at me with wide eyes and asked how many days a week I workout. It got me incredibly lean but surprisingly, my face got bloated. But I think that was due to me drinking beer everyday back then. It's def good stuff. I'd like to do it again but my hair has been falling out quite a bit on this test so I'm sure the winny will make it ten times worse.

Hey rippedgolfer could you pm me with your source so tired of buying junk Thanks man

 

[The Prototype]

Hey rippedgolfer could you pm me with your source so tired of buying junk Thanks man

You don't want to ask questions like that around here. And no one here does gear. This is all hypothetical.

 

[SloppyJ]

Thanks ripped.

Keep this crap out of my thread please.

Back on track:

So the pumps are not in my head. Today I did bi's and a little forearm. I've never seen either one pumped up so much. No strength increase yet from the bol's. Stuffed a protein bar down my throat on the way back and now I'm going to force myself to eat. As much as I thought I would love all of the eating, it's already starting to piss me off.

 

[BigBird]

If it's possible to OD on protein bars and shakes then I'll probably be the first casualty. Thank God for chicken breast but holy shit: Chicken, broccoli, potatoes, protein bars, shakes but HOT DAMN I think I'm gonna OD.

 

[The Prototype]

You jacked yet or what? Lol jk. Just curious, why are you waiting until tomorrow for first shot? I guess you are pretty open about using since you're letting your friend pin you. Just do the quad. It's ten times easier although glute is known to be more effective. Im gonna shoot you a pm now.

 

[SloppyJ]

Yup it must have kicked in last night cause I benched 500 4x.... I wish

Yeah I'm a little open. Only a few people know and they are the ones that I trust so I'm not worried. So I did my first pin last night actually. I got home and my buddy came over. I said F it and just went ahead and did it. It wasn't half as bad as I thought. No pain on the inject but almost like a bee sting afterwards. And this morning it feels just like a bruise.

I wanted to wait until today to do it because I want to be on Sat/Tue schedule with it.

 

[The Prototype]

Nice. It's really not bad at all. I enjoy pinning now. Remember to do everything very slowly especially pushing the plunger down. It'll help with pain. I even push the pin in really slowly. Some people like to jam it in but I wouldn't do that in the event you hit a nerve or something. Massage the area, use a heating pad, take a hot shower or exercise the area works for me to keep it painless.

 

[SloppyJ]

I'm not sure how fast he went in. I was trying to stare straight ahead and not laugh.(no homo.) I know it was a good 30sec on the inject. I also heated it up under hot tap water when it was in the syringe. He said it wasn't hard to push out even with the 25g.

I'm either going to do my other glute or the opposite side quad next time.

 

[bknoxx]

sounds good man hope u get the gains ur looking for gonna post up some pic's of progress ??

 

[The Prototype]

Yes take some pre-cycle pics. I forgot to do that. Def a good idea.

 

[SloppyJ]

Yeah I took some pre pics. I will probably wait until I have atleast a couple progress pics to post anything up.

 

[theCaptn']

nice cycle - I like the double dipping on the orals . . wet at the front end and dry at the back . . Your other option is to add dbol at the back-end as well (instead of stanazol) - that would be a hell of a mass cycle.

Good luck

 

[10R]

good luck with your cycle dude, im doin the same exact one

 

[SloppyJ]

nice cycle - I like the double dipping on the orals . . wet at the front end and dry at the back . . Your other option is to add dbol at the back-end as well (instead of stanazol) - that would be a hell of a mass cycle.

Good luck

The ol' double scoop. I thought about hitting the bol at the end but then I think when I started pct I would feel more let down when all of the water weight dropped off. But that would be one hell of a bulk. I want to hit the winny cause I plan to run it hard in the spring. Plus I'm sure I could stand to get a little more cut up at the end of this run.

 

[Phetamine]

Are you going with the winstrol in the end?

 

[SloppyJ]

Planning on it.

 

[cavtrooper96]

Looks like we finally have a newbie that did some research and planning. Reps to you. Do you have HCG? I strongly suggest that. Not NEEDED but helps.

I would watch your BP and heart rate if you do some cardio while on Dbol and white flood. I did some Tbol on Ephedrine and ran 1 mile in 6:20 and then did some heavy cardio on the elliptical and almost hit 200 HR. That white flood with the Dbol can do the same. You may want to keep the hawthorne at 1500mg while on the Dbol and back to 1000 after. You might even look at some policosanol and garlic for your lipids.

As far as the pinning, it will feel bruised for the first few times till you get used to it. Im guessing your doing 1cc per inject. It will get used to it real quick. Just dont put 3cc in one inject into your thigh and then go to the mall and walk for hours the next day. Talk about major pain. I havent pinned thighs since!

As far as the winny, do it if you lose some fat on the cycle. It is really at its best when you are really lean! Like for contest prep! Maybe go for some halos or more dbol the last 4 weeks.

 

[GreatWhiteTruth]

Best of luck bro. My cycle closely resembles yours as well. I'll be following along.

 

[SloppyJ]

Looks like we finally have a newbie that did some research and planning. Reps to you. Do you have HCG? I strongly suggest that. Not NEEDED but helps.

I would watch your BP and heart rate if you do some cardio while on Dbol and white flood. I did some Tbol on Ephedrine and ran 1 mile in 6:20 and then did some heavy cardio on the elliptical and almost hit 200 HR. That white flood with the Dbol can do the same. You may want to keep the hawthorne at 1500mg while on the Dbol and back to 1000 after. You might even look at some policosanol and garlic for your lipids.

As far as the pinning, it will feel bruised for the first few times till you get used to it. Im guessing your doing 1cc per inject. It will get used to it real quick. Just dont put 3cc in one inject into your thigh and then go to the mall and walk for hours the next day. Talk about major pain. I havent pinned thighs since!

As far as the winny, do it if you lose some fat on the cycle. It is really at its best when you are really lean! Like for contest prep! Maybe go for some halos or more dbol the last 4 weeks.

Thanks man! I've done over a year of research and took the time to make sure I really wanted to do it. And when I do something, I really like to do it right.

I do not have hcg. I thought about it but did not research it fully. I figured so many people have done cycles without it, I will be okay. I am looking into it for the next one however. I know the dosages and when to do it, just not how to do it.

I am running NOW Hawthorne 550mg 3x per day. So thats 1650mg. I forgot to update but I also got some Liver Care (Liv 52 US Version) that I'm running also. I guess you can't be too safe. I will check out the supps you listed.

Yes 1ml on the pins. It's not so bad. I was thinking of trying a quad tonight or even my other glute. I guess time will tell. I'll sit at work and think about that 1.5" all day and puss out.

 

[SloppyJ]

Day 6 Update:

Something is happening. My leg press is up the most but everything else feels just a little easier in the gym. I added 20lbs to my squat today and got 540 on the leg press for a few more sets than normal. I could have gotten more but I stopped. Pumps are feeling better also.

My nipples were feeling kind of weird today. I don't know if it's anything to do with the dbol but I'm going to start adex at .25mg EOD tonight after my pin. I know I stated I was going to do .5mg EOD but I think that might be a bit excessive at this stage in the game.

 

[The Prototype]

I've noticed my nips are hard a lot. Even to the point where they kinda hurt. Fortunately, I haven't grown a pair of tits yet. I'll take a nolva from time to time when they get too hard or sensitive and that usually gets them in check.