Osama bin laden is dead!!!!!!!!

[LAM]

Does that mean we have to keep spending money on stupid war?

Bin Laden was a horrible human being and won't be missed but neither him or Saddam were the causes of Gulf War II or the Afghanistan war...

the US will be in Afghanistan until that region is stable enough to build a new pipeline for CentGas..

below is a quote from minutes taken from a House meeting in 1998:

"Last October, the Central Asia Gas Pipeline Consortium, called CentGas, in which Unocal holds an interest, was formed to develop a gas pipeline which will link Turkmenistan's vast Dauletabad gas field with markets in Pakistan and possibly India. The proposed 790-mile pipeline will open up new markets for this gas, traveling from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Multan in Pakistan. The proposed extension would move gas on to New Delhi, where it would connect with an existing pipeline. As with the proposed Central Asia oil pipeline, CentGas can not begin construction until an internationally recognized Afghanistan Government is in place."

page 33
U.S. Interests in the Central Asian Republics

 

[ZECH]

And we care about Centgas and Pakistan why?

 

[LAM]

And we care about Centgas and Pakistan why?

because the US with 4% of the worlds population consumes 25% of the crude oil produced. the US reached maximum oil production in the states in the early 1970's and now OPEC has reached it's max, which means it's oil reserves are falling.

 

[irish_2003]

because the US with 4% of the worlds population consumes 25% of the crude oil produced. the US reached maximum oil production in the states in the early 1970's and now OPEC has reached it's max, which means it's oil reserves are falling.

we have plenty of oil for hundred's of years....we just need more refineries since we haven't added many or any since the 70s.....

 

[LAM]

we have plenty of oil for hundred's of years....we just need more refineries since we haven't added many or any since the 70s.....

the US borrows extensively to pay for oil imports increasing the deficit. so this occurs while oil company's record record profits quarter after quarter?

 

[irish_2003]

the US borrows extensively to pay for oil imports increasing the deficit. so this occurs while oil company's record record profits quarter after quarter?

i don't understand your point? we have the resources to be selfsufficient other than enough refineries....we don't need to import if we lift the bans and restrictions from the evil EPA........it sounds like you're for once agreeing with me and logic of course

 

[Imosted]

we have plenty of oil for hundred's of years....we just need more refineries since we haven't added many or any since the 70s.....

The world have enough oil to use for another 1000 years but we do not have the technology or the resources to fucking extract it.
Long Term World Oil Supply

But with what we can extract with today's technology, oil will not last another 70-80 with this high demand.

 

[LAM]

i don't understand your point? we have the resources to be selfsufficient other than enough refineries....we don't need to import if we lift the bans and restrictions from the evil EPA........it sounds like you're for once agreeing with me and logic of course

if the only real oil reservoirs we have left are in coastal waters then I am definitely for limited drilling.

I'm just confused about the US reaching maximum production in the 70's before these EPA offshore drilling bans were even in place in the 80's.

 

[irish_2003]

if the only real oil reservoirs we have left are in coastal waters then I am definitely for limited drilling.

I'm just confused about the US reaching maximum production in the 70's before these EPA offshore drilling bans were even in place in the 80's.

we have plenty of shale deposits now too along with out domestic oil, reserves and alaskan untapped.......anything onland is much safer and if a spill happens can be contained much easier than the open waters (although the earths natural filter systems made it disappear rather quick during the gulf spill without much cleanup efforts)

 

[ZECH]

because the US with 4% of the worlds population consumes 25% of the crude oil produced. the US reached maximum oil production in the states in the early 1970's and now OPEC has reached it's max, which means it's oil reserves are falling.

But the point of the article was to run a pipline to Pakistan. That does not help us one bit?

 

[bio-chem]

You are rejoicing at his death?
Then you're a huge fucking hypocrite, mr christian poser.

Jesus said, Do not celebrate the deaths of your enemies.

You've shown your true colors you shithole.

Nice to see youre back dude. been awhile since ive seen you around these parts

 

[LAM]

But the point of the article was to run a pipline to Pakistan. That does not help us one bit?

CentGas was a group of small oil company's/venture capital, etc. one of the founding members was a small oil company out of CA, can't remember the name right now but it was later merged and/or absorbed into Chevron. Chevron being one of the major players involved in leases to Iraq's oil fields by western company's and then there is Chevron Pakistan.

everyone has forgotten that we sent troops into Afghanistan before we invaded Iraq in Oct of 2001. years before the US and UK did mock war game simulating this.

everything in the middle east is about oil and not about democracy....

 

[Big Smoothy]

we have plenty of shale deposits now too along with out domestic oil, reserves and alaskan untapped.......anything onland is much safer and if a spill happens can be contained much easier than the open waters (although the earths natural filter systems made it disappear rather quick during the gulf spill without much cleanup efforts)

The oil in the shale is indeed there - but it's very, very, expensive to extract from the shale. New technology will have to be made that will make it cheaper or, the price of oil would have to be much, much, higher for oil companies to extract it.

The amount of oil from the off-shore drilling, Alaska, and shale, is not enough to steadily supply the American market. The percentage is not high enough.

The US should start looking at alternatives, for real.

But there are powerful interests opposed to that. Very powerful.

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

Nice to see youre back dude. been awhile since ive seen you around these parts

Thanks dude.

Now answer my questions blasphemer!!

 

[living good]

good riddance

 

[living good]

its about time

 

[bandaidwoman]

And we care about Centgas and Pakistan why?

As for Pakistan, it is a nuclear power #1

The United States is extraordinarily dependent on Pakistan for intelligence on al Qaeda and Taliban targets. #2

It is a strained interdependant relationship, much like ours with China. ( for different reasons of course)

 

[quadluver]

I love the fact that OBL was unarmed. It basically tells you the mind set of the SEALS going in there. They had no intention of bringing his ass in. They basically went in there and said 'wassup mother fucker!' and shot him in the face. That is some bad as shit right there. The SEALS are some bad boys and this story couldn't possibly have a better ending. I'm really proud of the fact that it was our group of guys who got him, in stead of a British team of some other country. The fact that we took care of business without consulting the Paki's or the UN or anyone tells the world that if you want to rage a war against us, we will bring you down no matter what.

This story is straight up bad ass and I'm proud to be an American!

 

[LAM]

I love the fact that OBL was unarmed. It basically tells you the mind set of the SEALS going in there. They had no intention of bringing his ass in. They basically went in there and said 'wassup mother fucker!' and shot him in the face. That is some bad as shit right there. The SEALS are some bad boys and this story couldn't possibly have a better ending. I'm really proud of the fact that it was our group of guys who got him, in stead of a British team of some other country. The fact that we took care of business without consulting the Paki's or the UN or anyone tells the world that if you want to rage a war against us, we will bring you down no matter what.

This story is straight up bad ass and I'm proud to be an American!

it was either going to be ST6 or SFOD-D that got him, had to be it was just a matter of time!

Bin Laden was

 

[LAM]

For those that are interested you can look at drafts, etc. of the Defense Planning Guide (DPG) 1992. It helps to explain why the US is so active in the Gulf area and the ever increasing US military budget.

The Nuclear Vault: The Making of the Cheney Regional Defense Strategy, 1991-1992

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ebb245/doc03_full.pdf

 

[Little Wing]

not sure if this was posted in here.

YouTube Video

http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/sea-burial-of-bin-ladens-body-fuels-doubts/

 

[juggernaut]

So, when's the movie coming out????? Can Jesse Ventura be in it?

 

[Arnold]

it should be the plot of the next Rambo movie!

 

[maniclion]

I guarantee that the operatives were told to drop Bin Laden on sight even if he was cowardly surrendering, it would have been a huge mistake to take him alive....

Why you ask...

Because then any American or European abroad would have been in danger of being taken hostage. Hostages to exchange for Bin Laden, more beheadings and just an all out ugly scene.....

That's why we didn't even hold onto the body(or are saying we don't have the body), because even then they would have wanted an exchange for his body so they could erect a monument around their martyr.

 

[DOMS]

I've been wondering about something.

What if they've actually captured him alive? What if they've torturing the shit of him to get intel? They've already said he's dead and that they've dumped his body at sea. They could work him for years.

 

[maniclion]

I've been wondering about something.

What if they've actually captured him alive? What if they've torturing the shit of him to get intel? They've already said he's dead and that they've dumped his body at sea. They could work him for years.

I was thinking they had him for a while and were torturing him until he died then they pretended to have killed him in a siege....

 

[GearsMcGilf]

because the US with 4% of the worlds population consumes 25% of the crude oil produced. the US reached maximum oil production in the states in the early 1970's and now OPEC has reached it's max.

Exactly, drill baby drill! But, let's do it here and not in Afghanistan and Brasil. In the meantime, let's GTFO of that 8th century shit hole. It's an oxymoron. Obama now supports energy independence and the boost to the economy brought about by domestic oil exploration.......for Brasil. But it's off limits for the USA, regardless of how many jobs it would create and how far it would go to lowering the cost.

 

[LAM]

I don't know much about this oil shit but it seems like the old catch 22 strikes again. we need more oil but at what cost to the environment?

as the US population grows and technology (new uses for petro based products, etc.) so does the demand for oil and substrates increase.

don't the oil manufacturing plants have to be modified, etc. depending on the type of oil they are processing? i recall hearing the term sweet crude, wtf is that?

 

[HialeahChico305]

I've been wondering about something.

What if they've actually captured him alive? What if they've torturing the shit of him to get intel? They've already said he's dead and that they've dumped his body at sea. They could work him for years.

naw the US Media will never lie to its people in such manner, how dare you come up with such theory

 

[GearsMcGilf]

Sweet crude oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sweet crude oil is a type of petroleum. Petroleum is considered "sweet" if it contains less than 0.5% sulfur,[1] compared to a higher level of sulfur in sour crude oil. Sweet crude oil contains small amounts of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide.

Apparently, it comes in a couple different flavors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_crude_oil#cite_note-1