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Except u posted that before I responded to the advice I was given.. 0/10
And sure, ive gotten the typical broscience comments.. Nothing backed up with science or anything substantial though
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For being a standard donkey you are really ungrateful when known VETS who have been cycling longer than you have been alive give you advice!
Enjoy!
By the way your cycle looks like shit, and if you didn't want people who actually care give you advice why start the damn thread? But Im guessing donkeys know everything.
Son you need to step back and respect your elders. No one wants to see you get hurt...well they didn't.
When you come on here and run your mouth like you know anything and everything and are extremely rude to people it's laughable. I cannot wait until you come crawling back asking for help when you can't recover from your cycle, your boyfriend left your emotional ass because even as gay as he was, he couldn't watch the notebook everynight and listen to you cry yourself to sleep.
Do yourself a favor and quit being such a fucking douche bag and listen to these guys. They are trying to help you. And you're only at 200lbs and you are 5 cycles deep. Obviously you aren't doing something right. You had 5 cycles in ONE year? What happened to PCT? Or did you make the decision that you want to compete in the super lightweight class?
This isn't the first time you've came on here and got your ass kicked, so learn from your mistakes.
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did you seriously just say that? Lmao.. just when I thought highschool was over
anyways, I apologize that my honesty offended anyone, I was not trying to be offensive..
The truth is..someone telling me "I wouldn't do that if I were you" gives me no information whatsoever as to why I shouldn't perform the action in question.
And yes I am 200 pounds, 2.5 cycles in..not 5.............not sure how you missed that, buuuuut whatever. (proves that you misinterpret the content of my posts or overlook it completely...then attack me)
take into account I got very sick after my first cycle and lost all of my gains..beyond my control
so Ive basically run 1.5 cycles (am halfway through my current one), and 200 pounds at 5'9 (most likely leaner than 12%, thought I would overstate it to avoid understating it) is more than decent.
So, while I respect your guy's knowledge...though you do not seem to be sharing it with me despite my asking for it, I am actually not being a douche or an asshole.
Oh and GMO, wayto take my post incorrectly and then call me an idiot over Pm, (im the asshole?) internet reputation doesn't matter so go ahead and keep "negging" me lmao..
anyways, The whole "low test high tren" is becoming a more popular method of cycling with tren.
I am asking for a compelling reason why I shouldn't run 2 19 nors together.
Again I apologize for my honesty, and for the way my posts sound. I respect the knowledge here, if I didnt I would have posted on some other site.
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did you seriously just say that? Lmao.. just when I thought highschool was over
anyways, I apologize that my honesty offended anyone, I was not trying to be offensive..
The truth is..someone telling me "I wouldn't do that if I were you" gives me no information whatsoever as to why I shouldn't perform the action in question.
And yes I am 200 pounds, 2.5 cycles in..not 5.............not sure how you missed that, buuuuut whatever. (proves that you misinterpret the content of my posts or overlook it completely...then attack me)
take into account I got very sick after my first cycle and lost all of my gains..beyond my control
so Ive basically run 1.5 cycles (am halfway through my current one), and 200 pounds at 5'9 (most likely leaner than 12%, thought I would overstate it to avoid understating it) is more than decent.
So, while I respect your guy's knowledge...though you do not seem to be sharing it with me despite my asking for it, I am actually not being a douche or an asshole.
Oh and GMO, wayto take my post incorrectly and then call me an idiot over Pm, (im the asshole?) internet reputation doesn't matter so go ahead and keep "negging" me lmao..
anyways, The whole "low test high tren" is becoming a more popular method of cycling with tren.
I am asking for a compelling reason why I shouldn't run 2 19 nors together.
Again I apologize for my honesty, and for the way my posts sound. I respect the knowledge here, if I didnt I would have posted on some other site.
You're still an idiot...honestly
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Ok i will ask respectfully a few questions,
1. As sloppy stated your 5 cycles in during a one year period, but you say he doesn't understand your post, and thats not the case. Well i read your first post, and all of them, and it says "this will be my 5th cycle!" so?
2. You argue with everyone that has extensive knowledge and research, PLUS They have been doing this for years, not a year, almost as long as your age. Why do you start these threads?
3. Your 20, yes your done growing now, you may not have been but you fucked that up be starting gear at what 18, 19? So yes you may seem fine now, but you honestly only know what you google, you have no long term experience or true knowledge of the damage going on inside you, you probably think that since everything seems fine everything is fine. I hope your getting regular blood test covering everything, and have thought about the future. Because honestly man your attitude reflects your age, and is one of the main reasons your to young to do this. Hard work, proper diet, rest, understanding, education, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING PATIENCE! 1200 to 1400 mg of tren a week is unnecessary and stupid, keep it up and you will have kidney trouble by 35! This isn't meant to be an insult, and i will not post in your thread anymore, no point anyway!
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1. As sloppy stated your 5 cycles in during a one year period, but you say he doesn't understand your post, and thats not the case. Well i read your first post, and all of them, and it says "this will be my 5th cycle!" so?
2. You argue with everyone that has extensive knowledge and research, PLUS They have been doing this for years, not a year, almost as long as your age. Why do you start these threads?
3. Your 20, yes your done growing now, you may not have been but you fucked that up be starting gear at what 18, 19? So yes you may seem fine now, but you honestly only know what you google, you have no long term experience or true knowledge of the damage going on inside you, you probably think that since everything seems fine everything is fine. I hope your getting regular blood test covering everything, and have thought about the future. Because honestly man your attitude reflects your age, and is one of the main reasons your to young to do this. Hard work, proper diet, rest, understanding, education, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING PATIENCE! 1200 to 1400 mg of tren a week is unnecessary and stupid, keep it up and you will have kidney trouble by 35! This isn't meant to be an insult, and i will not post in your thread anymore, no point anyway!
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bump that! Seems we've had this conversation with you before. No one is trying to discourage you but at 21 and proposing to run 4 compounds at once and then to state you are trying to find something to ADD to that I think is the real problem. May I ask how many years of proper training and diet have you done BEFORE adding aas? Where is the foundation? So many bro's out there today think bodybuilding is ALL about the drugs.They are a tool for sure but not the most important thing at all. Try giving yourself a few years of reaching your genitic potential naturally first THEN add the aas as an additional tool to continue the journey. Adding them too soon will lesson the effect in the long run.
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Thank you for not jumping on the "fag" train, I was beginning to lose faith in this forum.
1. As sloppy stated your 5 cycles in during a one year period, but you say he doesn't understand your post, and thats not the case. Well i read your first post, and all of them, and it says "this will be my 5th cycle!" so?
It will be my fifth cycle, I have not run it yet........ My bulking cycle (my next cycle) will be my fourth, I have also not run it yet either.
2. You argue with everyone that has extensive knowledge and research, PLUS They have been doing this for years, not a year, almost as long as your age. Why do you start these threads?
Please point out where I was arguing. I would contend that I was simply bring up valid points regarding hormones, aas, and their functions. If you can point out where I was arguing that would be very helpful.
3. Your 20, yes your done growing now, you may not have been but you fucked that up be starting gear at what 18, 19?
I am not sure I understand your question
I hope your getting regular blood test covering everything, and have thought about the future.
I do and everything always comes back normal/above average
Because honestly man your attitude reflects your age, and is one of the main reasons your to young to do this.
care to cite any specific examples? I am glad you are the one to say this instead of sloppj or that other guy.
Hard work, proper diet, rest, understanding, education, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING PATIENCE! 1200 to 1400 mg of tren a week is unnecessary and stupid, keep it up and you will have kidney trouble by 35!
Please show me research that indicates that tren causes kidney damage.
While you are respectful in your approach, you are making assertions that have no factual basis or evidence to support them.
1. As sloppy stated your 5 cycles in during a one year period, but you say he doesn't understand your post, and thats not the case. Well i read your first post, and all of them, and it says "this will be my 5th cycle!" so?
It will be my fifth cycle, I have not run it yet........ My bulking cycle (my next cycle) will be my fourth, I have also not run it yet either.
2. You argue with everyone that has extensive knowledge and research, PLUS They have been doing this for years, not a year, almost as long as your age. Why do you start these threads?
Please point out where I was arguing. I would contend that I was simply bring up valid points regarding hormones, aas, and their functions. If you can point out where I was arguing that would be very helpful.
3. Your 20, yes your done growing now, you may not have been but you fucked that up be starting gear at what 18, 19?
I am not sure I understand your question
I hope your getting regular blood test covering everything, and have thought about the future.
I do and everything always comes back normal/above average
Because honestly man your attitude reflects your age, and is one of the main reasons your to young to do this.
care to cite any specific examples? I am glad you are the one to say this instead of sloppj or that other guy.
Hard work, proper diet, rest, understanding, education, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING PATIENCE! 1200 to 1400 mg of tren a week is unnecessary and stupid, keep it up and you will have kidney trouble by 35!
Please show me research that indicates that tren causes kidney damage.
While you are respectful in your approach, you are making assertions that have no factual basis or evidence to support them.
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I would say read my previous post, but since I am trying to avoid having everyone call me a fag for being rude or whatever it was, I will repeat myself..
I have been training very consistently and passionately for the past 6 years. Properly for the past 4
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I suppose ill drop the Npp and just use the test tren and winstrol...
though it had nothing to do with what anyone said here. This has truly been an eye-opening and shameful display of the juvenile natures of several of the "vets" have here.
I will not be looking for advice here again, I suppose i will just stick to what I know and refrain from experimenting until I gain a greater understanding of Npp and its long estered brother.
I hold no ill will toward any of the posters here, but I invite you to reread my posts, then yours, and if you are not the slightest bit embarrassed, perhaps some self-evaluation would be prudent.
though it had nothing to do with what anyone said here. This has truly been an eye-opening and shameful display of the juvenile natures of several of the "vets" have here.
I will not be looking for advice here again, I suppose i will just stick to what I know and refrain from experimenting until I gain a greater understanding of Npp and its long estered brother.
I hold no ill will toward any of the posters here, but I invite you to reread my posts, then yours, and if you are not the slightest bit embarrassed, perhaps some self-evaluation would be prudent.
Pictures or I'm going to think that this what your 4 years of training has gotten you:
Ok you cleared up your cycle history, that good. Number 3 b as you put it, was a statement more than a question, but the proposed question could be have you read research on the male body and the endocrine system, specifically at what age growth stops and the impact aas can have before your natural growth has peaked.
In response to Vets, you always put some info up instead of taking their advice and asking questions politely. If that is your intent then you need to work on your wording i-e the way you present yourself. Because in reading your post your replies seem very sarcastic and arrogant.
Now were do you think tren puts its stress on the body. So yes their is no exact science to tren, mainly because it is not used in humans and hasn't been much research on the impact of tren on the human body. But i do know its impact on bp and what high bp means. Honestly regardless of what youve read your close minded if you think tren isn't doing damage to your kidneys, almost every aas puts stress on kidneys, especially at high doses. Anyway do what you will, i am not writing anymore about this.
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That's because the "vets" on this forum will not give cycle advice to a 21 year old. You are too young to be running gear. I don't care that you have already started and ran 2 cycles, or 5 cycles or whatever the real number is. You would best be served to stay off the juice and hope and pray that your endocrine system bounces back.
That being said, you are a 21 year-old know-it-all, who is not going to yield to sound advice. So fuck it...run your jacked up cycle, and when your old, short, fat and have ED don't cry to anyone that "steroids did this to me". Your inexperience, stubbornness and lack of proper research did it to you.
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My endocrine system has recovered after my first two cycles, or at least that is what the bloodwork claimed.
Old, fat, and short? Well..becoming old is an inevitability..steroids won't do that to me.
Short..you know nothing about me, therefore you do not know that my mother is 5' and my dad is 5'11. I tend to take after my mother, so 5'9 is pretty much the best I could have hoped for. I may seem arrogant, but you are certainly ignorant, among a plethora of other things.
Fat.. surely you jest. If I were to somehow shut down my hpta, I would simply blast and cruise. The beauty of the human body is there is always a way out when it comes to these sorts of things..
once again, you have proven yourself to be aggressive to the point where you forget your lacking of understanding. You know nothing about me, yet you make numerous assertions.
Anyways, spring cutting cycle (my 5th) will be what was originally stated, minus the Npp.
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^^x10000
I'm done with this kid.
You should have never posted in this thread. I was asking for advice from steroid users..
you dont even use steroids so why are you here?
regardless, mods please close/lock/delete this thread.
Double the test prop and cut the tren in half. Winny is pretty high for 8 weeks but doable.
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Tyvm sir
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I ran a replacement dose of T (150mg prop weekly) back in April with 350mg Tren Ace weekly. I liked that combo very much. I was running winny tabs as well.
Thats what I'm running now... a very powerful and simple stack if your nutrition is in check it'll take you far.
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Even if you are doing a cut cycle, you'll be needing more carbs for sure. Unless you are close to a contest, then add some carbs to fuel your workouts. ESPECIALLY if you truly are doing an hour of cardio a day.
Maybe add in some fish as well, for a variety of fats.
when it comes to high tren low test, there are many people on other boards who swear by running massive doses of tren and a trt dose of test. this supposedly keeps the sides at bay
with that said, 1400mg of tren a week? how do you not drown to death in your sleep from sweat lol 200 mg/wk and i woke up in puddles
with that said, 1400mg of tren a week? how do you not drown to death in your sleep from sweat lol 200 mg/wk and i woke up in puddles
