Off cycle advise

[Andy_E]

Hi all im coming up to the end of my 10wk cycle of 4ml per week of sust 250 and Deca 300 stacked, do i just stop or do i drop the dose and ween myself off the cycle? and what is the best thing for me to take for my off cycle.
Im 34, weighing 11st 10lb, 12% bf, 7 years training.
Thanks Andy.

 

[GMO]

Aren't you running a PCT?

 

[adwal99]

what does 11st mean?

 

[Andy_E]

what does 11st mean?

11 stone, (154lb)
+ 10lb=164 lb
sorry

 

[Andy_E]

Aren't you running a PCT?

Not as yet, if you could help me with it, please.
Need advice in layman's terms.

 

[james-27]

Sounds like some one didnt do their home work before sticking themselves. Not smart bro. 7 years training and only 164lbs? sounds like you need to focus on diet and training rather then taking your magic beans.

 

[aja44]

So you started a cycle without having all the components to complete it? Were you running any sort of AI throughout your cycle? How about checking out the Sticky's and doing a bit or research before you really hurt yourself.

 

[james-27]

Were you running any sort of AI throughout your cycle?

Only gaining 10lbs in ten weeks id say yes but then again I bet he has no idea what AI is.

 

[Andy_E]

Sounds like some one didnt do their home work before sticking themselves. Not smart bro.

I do try but i dont understand a lot of it, silly i know but thats why im asking these questions to learn from you guys.
A lot of people i know just stick the stuff in them and thats it, getting all the wrong advise from them like "oh youll be fine just do it for 10 weeks then come off it for a while, the dose your on you wont need OCT" . But i would like to do it properly and here is where ill find all the right info.

 

[Andy_E]

Only gaining 10lbs in ten weeks id say yes but then again I bet he has no idea what AI is.
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Correct.

 

[banker23]

Not as yet, if you could help me with it, please.
Need advice in layman's terms.

I've only been on this board for a month and I am no longer surprised by this response...

 

[GMO]

Not as yet, if you could help me with it, please.
Need advice in layman's terms.

Ouch...

Well, to keep it simple you'll want to run Clomid @ 100/100/75/50 and Aromasin @ 25/25/12.5/12.5.

You'll want to stop your deca at least a week before your sus, and then start your PCT 3 weeks after your last sus inject.

Because you ran a 19-nor (Deca), you would also be better served to pin HCG at 1000iu-2500iu eod in between your last shot of sus and the start of your PCT.

I wouldn't be surprised however if you ahve no idea what any of that means since you obviously failed to do the necessary research before cycling. You should have been using an AI and hcg throughout your entire cycle, which you obviously failed to do. AAS are powerful hormones that can do great damage to your physiology if not used correctly. Using them without research is just plain stupidity...

 

[Andy_E]

Anyone willing to give advise then or am i left in the dark still with only the people i know that also dont know what there talking about.

 

[Andy_E]

Thank you GMO.

 

[james-27]

If you would do the research like the rest of us did then you wouldn't have to ask questions like this bro.

 

[Andy_E]

I have been reading for a while now but like i said i dont understand all the abbreviations and the science, thought you guys could put it in to laymans terms for me.

 

[gixxermaniak]

Bro Google is your friend and it's been around for a really long time use it

 

[Andy_E]

7 years training and only 164lbs?

Lol when i started i weighed 125lb, i have a very high metabolism and have struggled to put weight on all my life. I have/had a phobia of needles which ive faced to do the juice just to get some size and weight on and its finaly working but ive sort of jumped in at the deep end not knowing what i should and now i just need advice and guidance to do it safely.

 

[Vibrant]

Follow what gmo said. By the way, how tall are you?

 

[vannesb]

I have been reading for a while now but like i said i dont understand all the abbreviations and the science, thought you guys could put it in to laymans terms for me.

If you did not understand the abbreviations then ask! Dont start a cycle and then at the end try to figure it out!

There are plenty of info and if you have been reading like you said, unless you are on HRT(Hormone Replacment Theropy) then you will always run a PCT (Post Cycle theropy)

 

[Andy_E]

Follow what gmo said. By the way, how tall are you?

Will do cheers, im 6ft.

 

[aja44]

I have been reading for a while now but like i said i dont understand all the abbreviations and the science, thought you guys could put it in to laymans terms for me.

I think this is a bunch of BS. If your have been doing your homework, you would know what a PCT was. And if memory serves me, there is a Sticky that explains all the abbreviations. In your case, you think its best to just shoot shit into your body without knowing what it will do, what you should be taking along with it to protect yourself and then what you must take to recover!!

Just admit you did nothing

 

[Andy_E]

why are you being such a bitch, it took you longer to write that than it would have to have just gave me some advice, isnt that part of what these forums are about? why do you use the forum? 'to moan at people'? its my body and if i choose to to do it then thats my choice and all im asking is for some friendly advice from people who are doing the same.

 

[Digitalash]

follow the pct outlined by GMO, spend the money on some hcg and bacteriostatic water it's worth it. At the least though you need clomid + aromasin

What AI are you using on cycle?

 

[Andy_E]

follow the pct outlined by GMO, spend the money on some hcg and bacteriostatic water it's worth it. At the least though you need clomid + aromasin

What AI are you using on cycle?

Thanks mate, yeah im trying to get a hold of the things that GMO mentioned but im still trying to read up and find out about the timing of taking all of those things too.
As for what AI im using.......im not

 

[big60235]

Ouch...

Well, to keep it simple you'll want to run Clomid @ 100/100/75/50 and Aromasin @ 25/25/12.5/12.5.

You'll want to stop your deca at least a week before your sus, and then start your PCT 3 weeks after your last sus inject.

Because you ran a 19-nor (Deca), you would also be better served to pin HCG at 1000iu-2500iu eod in between your last shot of sus and the start of your PCT.

I wouldn't be surprised however if you ahve no idea what any of that means since you obviously failed to do the necessary research before cycling. You should have been using an AI and hcg throughout your entire cycle, which you obviously failed to do. AAS are powerful hormones that can do great damage to your physiology if not used correctly. Using them without research is just plain stupidity...

Since you are new to the PCT concept this probably didn't make sense.

Clomid @ 100/100/75/50

1st week 100 mg Clomid per day
2nd week 100 mg Clomid per day
3rd week 75 mg Clomid per day
4th week 50 mg Clomid per day

Aromasin @ 25/25/12.5/12.5

1st week 25 mg Aromasin per day
2nd week 25 mg Aromasin per day
3rd week 12.5 mg Aromasin per day
4th week 12.5 mg Aromasin per day

So stop Deca, 1 more week of sus, HCG for 3 weeks, then start the PCT as shown above.

 

[Andy_E]

Thank you big60235, that makes it a lot more understandable.
Im just trying to source the stuff now.

 

[Digitalash]

get some arimidex or aromasin ASAP, look into some research chem sites, one in my sig will ship to you quick. In the future you need to run an AI through every cycle with aromatizable compounds, which should be all of them since you should always run test.

 

[Chrisotpherm]

Andy,
Listen to these boys in here. I would as fast as I possibly could get your hands in the mentioned compounds. If you cant get them quick maybe extend your cycle out two more weeks to give you time to get them so you don't crash. Don't worry about the tongue lash you are receiving, but these guys are just trying to make it hurt mentally so you never do this again bro. They come off strong but everyone here at IM wants to help. Everyone just helps differently and is on cycle too so they are a little snippy but good bro's!!! Lol!!!


So Mote it Be
Chris

 

[Andy_E]

Andy,
Listen to these boys in here. I would as fast as I possibly could get your hands in the mentioned compounds. If you cant get them quick maybe extend your cycle out two more weeks to give you time to get them so you don't crash. Don't worry about the tongue lash you are receiving, but these guys are just trying to make it hurt mentally so you never do this again bro. They come off strong but everyone here at IM wants to help. Everyone just helps differently and is on cycle too so they are a little snippy but good bro's!!! Lol!!!


So Mote it Be
Chris

Good point mate, and its working im worried now and doing a lot of research and will do it properly on my next cycle. Thank you.