Cutting

[Jb1988]

Im thinking about running a test prop cycle while I'm cutting to preserve muscle mass. I'm thinking of running it 10-12 weeks at 150mg eod. Any input guys? I chose prop to have less water retention

 

[redz]

Have you cycled before?

 

[Jb1988]

Yeah I ran a test e cycle with a dbol kicker

 

[Standard Donkey]

I would suggest

150mg prop a week
75-100 winstrol a week
500mg tren ace/masteron prop a week

everything pinned ED to maintain stable blood levels

and clen

 

[Dath]

What's your stats bro? Age,bf%, yrs lifting etc.

This will help us determine what compounds could be best suited for you along side a good diet, and cardio routine.
I wouldn't suggest tren for your second cycle.
Added- the cycle standard donkey laid out is a GREAT cutting cycle, just IMO little early for someone with your prior cycle history.

 

[GMO]

What's your stats bro? Age,bf%, yrs lifting etc.

This will help us determine what compounds could be best suited for you along side a good diet, and cardio routine.
I wouldn't suggest tren for your second cycle.

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Stats please...

I would suggest

150mg prop a week
75-100 winstrol a week
500mg tren ace/masteron prop a week

everything pinned ED to maintain stable blood levels

and clen

-This is completely unnecessary for his goals. There is no need to run all of those other compounds.

Cutting is all diet. You don't need anything more than a little prop to preserve muscle mass. What BF% are you trying to get to?

 

[Jb1988]

Im 24 been lifting since 13 but actually have been serious about for 6 years. I'm 6'3 right now sitting at 240lbs about 16% bf. and usually when I start cutting below that my muscle mass tends to drop. I'd like to see 10% bf with about the same strength that I have

 

[Jb1988]

I bulked a little bit more than I wanted to. I was up to 255 at the end of my bulk

 

[Standard Donkey]

^^^This

Stats please...



-This is completely unnecessary for his goals. There is no need to run all of those other compounds.

Cutting is all diet. You don't need anything more than a little prop to preserve muscle mass. What BF% are you trying to get to?

I was making the assumption that his diet and cardio were on point...probably a bit presumptuous of me..

but i stand by my cycle, especially if Op wants to drop cals enough to get shredded.

 

[Jb1988]

Anyother input? I'm kinda thinking of some tren a with it maybe for the last 6 weeks at 100 eod. Lookin to hear from some vets

 

[Standard Donkey]

Anyother input? I'm kinda thinking of some tren a with it maybe for the last 6 weeks at 100 eod. Lookin to hear from some vets

tren is best pinned ED for the sake of maintaining steady levels.


that being said, diet and cardio are your best bet.

 

[justhav2p]

I would stick with the prop only.....

I did what Donkey suggested for a secound cycle to cut and gain strength...

Don't waste strong compounds like that to cut with. Wasnt worth it, stick with something simple especially for cutting, and cut like a mofo w/ massive cardio.

 

[Jb1988]

I was just looking at tren cause everywhere I look alot of guys use it for a cut

 

[Standard Donkey]

even though justhav2p is wrong more often than not..




Keeping things simple might be best.. Though testosterone does have a high level of aromatization to estrogen which stores fat/water etc.. it will preserve your muscle..

run it at 75mg ED with either .5mg adex eod or 12.5mg aromasin and use clen, don't use t3

 

[Jb1988]

Alright. So it would be better to run the test Ed instead of eod? I know prop has a half life of about 3 days. I figured I wouldn't need an ai with it cause of the short Ester meaning it won't really hold water. I'll have some on hand anyways. I'll prolly shoot for a 12 week cycle

 

[Standard Donkey]

Alright. So it would be better to run the test Ed instead of eod? I know prop has a half life of about 3 days. I figured I wouldn't need an ai with it cause of the short Ester meaning it won't really hold water. I'll have some on hand anyways. I'll prolly shoot for a 12 week cycle

sounds like u would benefit from more research..

 

[Jb1988]

The research that I have done says to shoot it eod

 

[justhav2p]

eod or ed is fine.... It's a more noticeable difference running stronger compound like Tren Ace with the dips in sides like heavy mood swings and acne and overall well being...

W/ prop you'll be good either or.....

 

[Jb1988]

eod or ed is fine.... It's a more noticeable difference running stronger compound like Tren Ace with the dips in sides like heavy mood swings and acne and overall well being...

W/ prop you'll be good either or.....

Thanks bro. 150 eod sound good?

 

[Dath]

Thanks bro. 150 eod sound good?

That's fine.... Have you spent some time researching your AI's

 

[Jb1988]

Yeah I still have some Adex left over. I guess I'll run that with it to just keep water down to a minimal

 

[XYZ]

I was just looking at tren cause everywhere I look alot of guys use it for a cut

If a lot of guys jumped off a bridge would you as well?

Honestly, all you need is diet, cardio and test, IN THAT ORDER. you don't need to complicate things.

Tren is a VERY harsh compound and can cause issues with BP, insomnia, sweating, rage, cholesterol and liver values. WHY do you want to do this when you can just use test?

 

[Jb1988]

Maybe for some better results. I've always been curious about tren. I'll just run tren this winter