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Viewing child pornography online not a crime

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Viewing child pornography online not a crime: New York court ruling

In a controversial decision that is already sparking debate around the country, the New York Court of Appeals ruled on Tuesday that viewing child pornography online is not a crime.

"The purposeful viewing of child pornography on the internet is now legal in New York," Senior Judge Carmen Beauchamp Ciparick wrote in a majority decision for the court.

The decision came after Marist College professor James D. Kent was sentenced to prison in August 2009 after more than 100 images of child pornography were found on his computer's cache.

Whenever someone views an image online, a copy of the image's data is saved in the computer's memory cache.

The ruling attempts to distinguish between individuals who see an image of child pornography online versus those who actively download and store such images, MSNBC reports. And in this case, it was ruled that a computer's image cache is not the same as actively choosing to download and save an image.

"Merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not, absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law," Ciparick wrote in the decision.

See a copy of the court's full ruling on the child pornography decision.

The court said it must be up to the legislature, not the courts, to determine what the appropriate response should be to those viewing images of child pornography without actually storing them. Currently, New York's legislature has no laws deeming such action criminal.

As The Atlantic Wire notes, under current New York law, "it is illegal to create, possess, distribute, promote or facilitate child pornography." But that leaves out one critical distinction, as Judge Ciparick stated in the court's decision.

"ome affirmative act is required (printing, saving, downloading, etc.) to show that defendant in fact exercised dominion and control over the images that were on his screen," Ciparick wrote. "To hold otherwise, would extend the reach of (state law) to conduct???viewing???that our Legislature has not deemed criminal."

The case originated when Kent brought his computer in to be checked for viruses, complaining that it was running slowly. He has subsequently denied downloading the images himself.



Viewing child pornography online not a crime: New York court ruling | The Sideshow - Yahoo! News
 
that shit is fucking crazy. I knew that virtual child porn wasn't illegal but real child porn not a crime in NY, wtf...
 
whats this world coming to? how much further will this country regress
 
As The Atlantic Wire notes, under current New York law, "it is illegal to create, possess, distribute, promote or facilitate child pornography." But that leaves out one critical distinction, as Judge Ciparick stated in the court's decision.

Letter of the law verus intent of the law

This sucks
 
i think the law is intended to distinguish between a person who might run into an image by accident. we all saw lemon party and had that image stored on our comp's memory, doesn't mean you're into that sort of thing, but c'mon more than 100 kiddie porn images is no accident. i think his search history might be considered procurement??? judges and jurors might need to view it... someone needs to get busy writing some laws.
 
As The Atlantic Wire notes, under current New York law, "it is illegal to create, possess, distribute, promote or facilitate child pornography." But that leaves out one critical distinction, as Judge Ciparick stated in the court's decision.

Letter of the law verus intent of the law

This sucks

it's the inherent problem with language and words they are open to interpretation. all language falls victim to the effects of general semantics (korzybski principle). and why words that are abstract in nature should not be taken literally.
 
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i think the law is intended to distinguish between a person who might run into an image by accident. we all saw lemon party and had that image stored on our comp's memory, doesn't mean you're into that sort of thing, but c'mon more than 100 kiddie porn images is no accident. i think his search history might be considered procurement??? judges and jurors might need to view it... someone needs to get busy writing some laws.

Which is exactly how things are supposed to work. Blaming the court for this one is the low-minded, ignorant approach. The courts are not supposed to be activist by distorting existing outdated laws to punish things not even contemplated by the legislature. With technology, the concept of "possessing" becomes more complicated. If the people don't like it, then they need to rely on the legislature to pass new laws addressing these new developments. An issue like this can easily become salient and be resolved by the political process. This is truly one of those issues where the people have the power to change a court decision that they are uncomfortable with. But to blame the court and do nothing about it is absurd.
 
Catch a pedo - douse them in gasoline and torch em. After a decade or so we could cut the child molester population by at least 90%. If we didn't keep letting them off with light sentences this shit wouldn't have gotten so out of hand.
 
If we didn't keep letting them off with light sentences this shit wouldn't have gotten so out of hand.

apparently the US DOJ believes that incarcerating people over minor marijuana offenses is more important.
 
bullshit...if it wasnt illegal it wouldnt be so hard to find...it is IMPOSSIBLE...trust me..ive tried

I have found kiddie porn twice. Both times were on sites for adult porn that linked to the shit. I was suspicious of whether it was really a porn site hotlink or an FBI entrapment ploy. Porn is a legitimate industry these days. There is a lot of money involved, so I seriously doubt a legitimate site would hotlink to another site that hosts obvious illegal content. It doesn't make any sense. Plus, I wouldn't put it past the FBI to do some dirty shit like that.

"Oh hey, here is some barely legal teens for you, just click the picture of this stupid 28 year old cunt in pigtails"
BAM! 12 year old Russian models! WTF!
 
Well then I think it should also not be illegal to kill pedophiles.

I think we should all be allowed to toke up a bomber and then go hunting pedo's. We could mount their heads on our walls.

Purposely hurt a child and it's open season on you from then on.
 
I'd have to agree with LW and others. It's better to err on the safe side. I have an uncle who's a complete idiot online, I usually have to wipe his computer once or twice a year because of the shit he lets these sites install thinking he's going to go watch some free porn. I'm talking like 15-20 toolbars on his browser taking up 1/3 of his screen. Any pedo hacker could have programs running where he watches kiddie porn through that computer or a hundred other ones.

Most of this shit would disappear if we legalized prostitution, then these guys could blow a nut the normal way instead of in a dark basement where the porn path keeps pushing them further and further into perversion.
 
Well then I think it should also not be illegal to kill pedophiles.
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It should be illegal, but like an $18 fine and u have a decade to pay!
 
It should be illegal, but like an $18 fine and u have a decade to pay!

Or you have to buy a license for $20 that'll help pay for the clean up and incineration.

I wanted to post a pic of me at 4 years old when I thought I was Lee Majors in the Fall Guy and would take a bath in my cowboy boots the run around naked with only my boots on.... I guess I must have seen an episode where he took one of his bubble baths and had his boots on propped up out of the water. I wanted to be a stunt man/ bounty hunter, so I would play outside tumbling, and tarzaning from vines and at the end of the playday I'd take my bubble bath and a glass of apple juice(my mom told me the scotch he drank was apple juice). She said I never wanted to take those boots off... I'm glad she remembers those stories... But you know even though I'm older and those pics are of me they'd probably construe them as kiddie porn, which is a sad state of our society that people exist to make such innocent pictures into a perversion....
 
LOL. If he had one or two saved in the cache file, that might be believable. The fact that he had >100 is pretty solid evidence that he "exercised dominion and control over the images that were on his screen." BTW, what was lemon party?
 
LOL. If he had one or two saved in the cache file, that might be believable. The fact that he had >100 is pretty solid evidence that he "exercised dominion and control over the images that were on his screen." BTW, what was lemon party?

Lemonparty I guess is something like tubgirl.com
 
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